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01-29-04, 09:35 PM
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I just want them to fix the bent pinch weld seam correctly. That's all. They will have to bend the one that's on the passenger side back into shape and paint it. They will have to take the painted plastic rocker panel moulding off to fix it because the plastic rocker panel moulding is also damaged. The moulding is bent outwards together with the pinch seam and one of the clips on the moulding is ready to come off because it angles outward and the pinch seam is pushing it out. I am not sure whether they have to put a brand new rocker panel moulding on and repaint it or if the original rocker panel moulding is no good anymore from being bent outwards. I am not sure if they can re-clip the original one back on without it being warped and getting loose. I will have to address this to the Ford dealer when I see them on Monday.
I don't know about the damaged pinch weld seam on the driver's side though. That one is crushed upwards into the rocker panel. The damaged area is about 4" to 6" inches in length. How are they going to pull that pinch weld downwards and back into shape again? It's crushed upwards and is shriveled up? Does anyone in here know?
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01-30-04, 10:33 PM
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01-30-04, 10:37 PM
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Does Anybody in Here Know?
Do they bang it out the damage or do they bend it out or do they pull it out? What types of tools and machines are involved in fixing this type of damage? Will my vehicle have to be up on a special type of lift while the bodyshop is repairing the damaged pinch weld seams underneath the rocker panels? If so, what type of lift? I am curious to find out the answers to these questions because I want to be sure that the bodyshop will use the correct procedure to repair the damage on my Mustang. Thanks. | 
01-31-04, 12:35 AM
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Any number of dollys or hammers will do it. All they have to do is bend it down and paint it. They probablky wont take the ground effects off because it is not neccessary. Just relax and dont worry about it remember it is under the car in a place where nobody will see it. It is best to let them do their thing and dont try to tell them how to do it.
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01-31-04, 06:55 AM
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Ron, Ford will probably deny doing any damage, but I have an idea for you to try.
A few years ago I used to oil paint and streched and made my own canvas and frames.
I used a tool available at art supply stores that could grab the canvas over a large 3" area while streched it for stapling.
It's metal and heavy duty. I think you could grab and bend about 3" of that seem at a time. Give it a try and PM me how it worked out. Good luck.
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01-31-04, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy The seams are currently painted the color of the car. The bent and crushed seams on my car currently have paint damage to them. . . . I am afraid of overspray all over the place under my car and on the side of my car. There are cables, an exhaust system, and some other metal and rubber parts under the car ( like rubber floorpan grommets, metal cables and rubber hoses). I don't want them to get oversprayed with paint and look bad. If there will be any paintwork done to the undercarraige, it must be done correctly and neatly. | I can't help it. I've got to say it. I never thought a guy like Ron Jeremy would be concerned with 'overspray'.  | 
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Originally Posted by cybore I can't help it. I've got to say it. I never thought a guy like Ron Jeremy would be concerned with 'overspray'.  | Quote: |
Originally Posted by mrvax Ron, Ford will probably deny doing any damage, but I have an idea for you to try.
A few years ago I used to oil paint and streched and made my own canvas and frames.
I used a tool available at art supply stores that could grab the canvas over a large 3" area while streched it for stapling.
It's metal and heavy duty. I think you could grab and bend about 3" of that seem at a time. Give it a try and PM me how it worked out. Good luck. | They would have them at michaels wouldnt they? i have a relative looking for something like that 
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01-31-04, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrvax Ron, Ford will probably deny doing any damage, but I have an idea for you to try.
A few years ago I used to oil paint and streched and made my own canvas and frames.
I used a tool available at art supply stores that could grab the canvas over a large 3" area while streched it for stapling.
It's metal and heavy duty. I think you could grab and bend about 3" of that seem at a time. Give it a try and PM me how it worked out. Good luck.
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What do you call that particular tool? And where can I get it? There is a national franchise arts and crafts department store in my area that sells canvases and tubes of oil paint for oil painters. Do you think that they would also sell this tool that you are talking about?
On Monday I am bringing my Mustang to Ford so they can look at the damage and tell me what they are going to do to fix it.
I think that I will also need a brand new plastic passenger side moulding. The current one is flexed and bent outwards together with the pinch weld seam. It is clipped on to the pinch weld seam by black plastic clips that look like tacks. I am not sure whether the current plastic rocker panel moulding will stay flush once the pinch weld seam is repaired. It might pop the plastic clip off from being flexed outwards and not regain its original straight shape again. It might not stay on the rocker panel and bulge outwards becaue of the flexing that has occurred. If the part of the plastic rocker panel is not parallel with the pinch weld seam, it will need to be changed with a brand new one.
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02-01-04, 09:14 AM
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Ron,
I hate to sound like a jerk, but I think you are making a mountian out of a mole hill. You thread title stated that Ford damaged your Mustang BIGTIME. Relax dude, it happens all the time! I'll bet 90% of Mustang's seams are bent. Your car is not ruined. | 
02-01-04, 03:40 PM
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I've mellowed out and calmed down since I found the damage. | 
02-01-04, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy I've mellowed out and calmed down since I found the damage. | God I hope so. | 
02-02-04, 08:04 PM
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I've got GOOD NEWS! Ford will fix and repair my Mustang at their expense.
I brought my Mustang into Ford Service today and they put it up on the lift to assess the damage that they done to my car. Form the looks of it, the pinch weld seam on the right rear section of the car is badly bent outwards. And the plastic painted rocker panel that's attached to the pinch weld seam has flexed outwards together with the bent pinch weld seam.
Plus, the pinch weld seam on the driver's side on the front left section of the car is crushed. On top of that, the bottom part of the left plastic fender wheel well covering next to the pinch weld seam is misaligned and pushed downwards towards the ground. It looks like it also got damaged from when the technician put my car incorrectly up on the lift.
I am going to bring my Mustang to a private bodyshop next Monday for them to fix all this mentioned damage. This private bodyshop is the one that my Ford dealer uses for all the bodywork for their own vehicles. They are a very small shop. This particular bodyshop specializes in repairing Fords. I have done some asking around and I am being told that they do meticulous and excellent quality work. They are going to fix the pinch weld seams and repaint them. They are also probably going to order a brand new passenger side plastic rocker panel moulding. The current one has flexed too much and might not have a tight fit onto the pinch weld seam once the pinch weld seam is bent back into it's original position and repaired.
They will also repair the driver's side pinch weld seam that's crushed. And they are going to repair the botom part of the plastic fender wheel well covering which is misaligned and out of place. This is a small separate wheel well peice that's attached to the regular large wheel well inside the front left fender. They may have to replace this piece as well if the bodyshop technician detects that it's torn on the inside where it clips/bolts on to the pich weld seam.
The bodyshop will also have to spray some thick rustproofing material on the bottom left rear corner of the rear wheel well right above the pinch weld seam. There is some black rustproofing material that's peeling from this area above the pinch weld seam which needs to be fixed.
And lastly, the Ford dealer is going to give me a free loaner car to use while my Mustang is in the bodyshop being fixed.
They said that the body work which is needed to be done to my Mustang will take only 2 days to do. My Mustang will be ready in only 2 days from the day that I am going to bring it into the bodyshop. I would like to know if you people in here think that 2 days is a sufficient amount of time for the bodyshop to do all the work that's required which I mentioned above to fix all the damage to my Mustang? Do you think that 2 days is a RUSH JOB? Do you think that 2 days is too quick to be repairing my Mustang with the current damage that it has to it? I would like to know your opinion about this. Thanks.
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02-02-04, 08:07 PM
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i would think that a good skilled body guy could do the job in 2 days provided they have the necessary parts. just closely inspect the car when you get it back i guess  | 
02-02-04, 08:15 PM
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My personal Ford mechanic is going to personally go to the bodyshop to show the bodyshop technician all the areas where there is damage on my car. He wants to make sure that the bodyshop doesn't miss anything. He wants the bodyshop to be thorough with all the repairs and body work.
I'm going to buy my mechanic a very nice gift for his quality service after my Mustang is repaired. I just hope that everything goes okay and that my car will look just like it did when it came out of the factory after they do all the bodywork repairs to it. I'm hoping for the best.
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02-03-04, 12:11 AM
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Ron do you get this worked up over everything. i think you should relax and have a jenna tera patrick sandwich or something.
BTW the real ron jeremy made this quote on a local radio station right before christmas. "When you hit bottom where are you gonna go" thought it was funny as hell. | 
02-03-04, 11:45 PM
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It's not that I get all worked up about things like this. It's just that I know that I have to go thru the hassle of fixing it and in order to fix it right, I have to go thru a BIGGER hassle and effort. I have to make sure that they will not screw up the repair work when they are doing the repair work. If there is any repair work that has to be done, it MUST be done right the first time. I don't want to have to go thru the hassle of having them do the same repairs a second time. Then, it will be a BIGGER hassle. Comprende? I want to make sure that I am not going to be dealing with idiots who don't know how to fix my Mustang correctly. There are many idiots out there who ruin people's cars because they don't care or because they don't know how to work on them. | 
02-04-04, 01:18 AM
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I totally understand but the damage that you have is next to impossible to repair wrong if you can bend a paperclip you can fix it. | 
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wow good luck trying to get them to own up to that!! | 
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Originally Posted by Dan_Soprano wow good luck trying to get them to own up to that!! | They already did. | 
02-05-04, 04:22 PM
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Billyfe390,
What do you mean by saying that "They already own up" to it?
It will not be until Monday whaen I am going to take my Mustang into the bodyshop. So, you cannot say yet that the bodyshop has owned up to anything. If they do a good quality repair job on my Mustang, only then will they own up to it. Before then, we cannot say that the bodyshop has owned up to anything yet. | 
02-05-04, 04:36 PM
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Sorry man I must have misread but I thought they said they would take care of things for you. | 
02-05-04, 10:51 PM
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They said that they will. I don't want to say too much before I actually see the finished work. We will see. | 
02-05-04, 11:44 PM
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you sure are uptight about this, the Dealership said they will fix it and seem to have bent over backwards to fix this. I love my car too, but let them screw up or at least not have it fixed before you pop a gasket. I hope some see that there are some good dealerships that provide customer service. Yours goes above and beyond. This did not ruin your car and it will look like new soon.
BTW, I bent mine myself. I never see it unless I get underneath.  | 
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That's want I want. I want it to look like new after it's repaired. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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