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05-01-05, 12:38 PM
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shoot, hell if i know lol i am not familiar with all this new state of the art stuff  |
05-01-05, 04:43 PM
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Torque box on passenger side. 
So what did I win?  |
05-01-05, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jester67 Torque box on passenger side.
So what did I win? | You got it. You win a free set of hacked-up original shock towers for just $39.95 S&H.  |
05-01-05, 07:28 PM
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I sent you a PM about a week ago regarding some similar work. Haven't heard back. |
05-01-05, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 96 DOHC Cobra I sent you a PM about a week ago regarding some similar work. Haven't heard back. | Sorry -- I missed the PM. I'll reply right now. |
05-04-05, 03:51 PM
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Nice looking MII swaps.
I MII'd my '70 back in '99. It was a junkyard sourced set up, and worked well.
In '02' I redid it with parts from Street Rod Engineering. and now it works good, but looks better!
Mine has a completely custom built front subframe.
One issue is that with a 203 we all use the Fox body pan to get a rear sump, but even that pan has a sump up front to clear the oil pump.
I have placed mine as low as I could without moving it forward to much.
It seems to me that with a rear rack the Engine could go back and down a lot.
In order to do this we would neeed the right rack, and aproporiate spindles.
It looks like the Heidts superride rear steer would be teh perfect spindle for this.
Any coments? |
05-04-05, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by samwe It seems to me that with a rear rack the Engine could go back and down a lot.
In order to do this we would neeed the right rack, and aproporiate spindles.
It looks like the Heidts superride rear steer would be teh perfect spindle for this.
Any coments? | On my fastback, I put the original 289 back in for now with the Heidt's MII setup. I put on the rear sump pan and still was able to get the engine pretty much in the original position. I left about 3/8" clearance between the pan and the rack.
Interesting idea about the Superride setup with the rear rack. I looked at the pics and it may be doable. There'd be a bit more fab since it's not made to go in a Mustang, but so what. I'll ask them about it next time we speak. |
05-04-05, 11:46 PM
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05-05-05, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by reenmachine Interesting idea about the Superride setup with the rear rack. I looked at the pics and it may be doable. There'd be a bit more fab since it's not made to go in a Mustang, but so what. I'll ask them about it next time we speak. | Looking at the geomtry, I am almost positive I could just mount a correct rack, those spindles, and make new motor mounts. I see no reason to use the whole superride suspension. Heidts makes it sound like it is more than a MII, but look at the geometry, they just use different mounts. It is rear steer MII.
One thing I have found is that these hot rod companies aren't much for innovation. The can see somthing done once, and make some shiny implementations, but coming up with new ideas, that is rare. |
05-05-05, 07:54 AM
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Wow, beautiful work reen. 
This is one of projects I have dreamed about, classic vert, Cobra mod motor, MII and IRS. Someday....  |
05-05-05, 07:30 PM
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Man Reen that looks SO great I just cant get over it!!!! I wish I had gone that route and not listened to others that say it does not work good....thats what I get! Pics of the IRS soon??? |
05-06-05, 01:38 AM
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I must use a classic line from a great movie.
"NICE BEAVER" |
05-06-05, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Erickson I must use a classic line from a great movie.
"NICE BEAVER" | Reen's car or BB avatard? |
05-06-05, 07:46 AM
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05-06-05, 09:29 AM
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Can we get a sticky for this thread too? Awsome project you've got going there! |
05-06-05, 12:38 PM
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Reenmachine,
Looking at the pics you posted of the fuel rails, it looks as if you may have them on backwards. It looks like you can flip the rail (put the current front opening on the rail toward the back of the intake). If you did this, the mounting brackets will be mounted on the inside of the rail and it looks like they may line up better with the mounting holes in the intake. |
05-06-05, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 65myway Reenmachine,
Looking at the pics you posted of the fuel rails, it looks as if you may have them on backwards. It looks like you can flip the rail (put the current front opening on the rail toward the back of the intake). If you did this, the mounting brackets will be mounted on the inside of the rail and it looks like they may line up better with the mounting holes in the intake. | Good call, i was just gonna suggest that. it would look cleaner anyway with the bolts facing away out of sight. |
05-06-05, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 65myway Reenmachine,
Looking at the pics you posted of the fuel rails, it looks as if you may have them on backwards. It looks like you can flip the rail (put the current front opening on the rail toward the back of the intake). If you did this, the mounting brackets will be mounted on the inside of the rail and it looks like they may line up better with the mounting holes in the intake. | Doesn't work that way. C'mon guys, give me some credit!
I went back and forth with the Aeromotive tech guys and apparently my intake must have come from a lot that doesn't have the same rail bosses as the one they designed the rails around. It basically ended with them asking me to let them know what I come up with so they can incorporate the fix into their kit. I modified the mounting brackets and they work now. I'll post pics later on. |
05-09-05, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by reenmachine I've been messing with the fuel system and electrical system mods to the DOHC engine. I'm converting it to a return-style fuel system and there is a bit of a fitment issue with the Aeromotive fuel rails (see pics). I can probably make it work by bending the mounting tabs but I'm going to talk to them tomorrow to see if I was shipped the wrong thing or something. Anybody use these, or any other aftermarket fuel rail on a DOHC that fit? | Hi Reen,
Looks like you will have to make a new bracket. It appears (at least from the photos) that after you bend the tab, the current mounting hole will end up off center (to low). Also, in order to get the bolt to seat properly, you are going to have to make some kind of modified washer to fit over the top.
But, I am sure you will come up with something pretty slick. Post a photo when you are done so that we can see the final fix.
Also, the things you are going through (electrical and fuel system management) were some of the reasons we approached our project in the manner we did. When I looked at the work required to get the harness modified, I kind of freaked out.
How are you going to resolve the ignition/security issue???
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05-09-05, 10:22 AM
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Just a small bend to the brackets made it work perfectly. It was fairly clear from the beginning (if you had the stuff in front of you to look at) that this would work, it's just that I didn't expect to have a problem like this from Aeromotive. So, I went through the paces to make sure there wasn't something obvious I was missing first.
As far as the electronics go, I think I have a slam dunk. Remember that I said that because I'll probably regret it in the future! I'm not reusing a single wire from the factory harness. Yes, everything will still be mass-air, CA emissions legal, Ford-serviceable, EEC-V, etc. All of the stuff is on the way and that will obviously be the major project over the coming weeks. PATS supposedly won't be a problem.
A couple of pics of the fuel rails:   |
05-09-05, 08:28 PM
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Hey Reen,is that your compays suspension kit?? If no who do you use? If so what does the tubular kit run?? I looked around the sites but I could not find it. |
05-09-05, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BB1966 Hey Reen,is that your compays suspension kit?? If no who do you use? If so what does the tubular kit run?? I looked around the sites but I could not find it. | If you're talking about the front suspension, it's the Heidt's deluxe. |
05-10-05, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by reenmachine Just a small bend to the brackets made it work perfectly. It was fairly clear from the beginning (if you had the stuff in front of you to look at) that this would work, it's just that I didn't expect to have a problem like this from Aeromotive. So, I went through the paces to make sure there wasn't something obvious I was missing first.
As far as the electronics go, I think I have a slam dunk. Remember that I said that because I'll probably regret it in the future! I'm not reusing a single wire from the factory harness. Yes, everything will still be mass-air, CA emissions legal, Ford-serviceable, EEC-V, etc. All of the stuff is on the way and that will obviously be the major project over the coming weeks. PATS supposedly won't be a problem.
SNIP... | Hi RM,
From the angle I was looking at, I thought the edge of the bolt would be right up against the fuel rail, but seeing the finished install, I can see that that was not the case.
So... From the sounds of it, you are going to have to wire the project from the ground up yourself. Is that right, or can you get some kind of aftermarket harness that will get you at least started in the right direction???
I was facing the modification of the Cobra harness and that was a really intimidating proposition. The PATS was going to be a nightmare. Everyone I talked to said that there was no way around it. The logic was in the computer system and there was no known over ride.
Good luck with the wiring. I look forward to seeing your solutions to the issues that will arise during assembly.
Bob |
05-11-05, 02:50 PM
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Cool,thanks I have been looking at the Heidt's after you posted the pics I think that is going to be a "must have"!! |
05-14-05, 08:01 AM
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Hi RM,
Just curious, how long is it???
From start to finish I mean. When did you start and when will you finish. My project is going to be just about 1 year when complete.
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