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This is a discussion on The Reenmachine DOHC '67 Shelby Clone Convertible Progress within the Classic Tech forums, part of the Classic Mustangs category; Originally Posted by BB1966 Reen,does the MII make the track any wider than the stock front suspension??? Thanks in advance ...

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Old 05-20-05, 03:57 PM
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Reen,does the MII make the track any wider than the stock front suspension??? Thanks in advance
Nope. Also, Heidt's now offers 5/8" shorter control arms (narrows the track 5/8" per side) to accommodate other wheel and tire sizes.
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Old 05-21-05, 09:23 PM
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Sweet! Thanks again! BTW why dont this thread rate a sticky??????????????
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Old 05-24-05, 01:07 AM
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Got the NOS 2000 Cobra R IRS here and got it into the customer car today. It'll all come back apart again to clean it up and make it look brand new. It's NOS, but has been sitting around for 5 years so there's surface rust on the bare metal parts, dust all over it, etc. I also have to remove the aluminum uprights and do some very minor machining to make them work with the 13" big brake kit I'm putting on.

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Old 05-24-05, 07:32 AM
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What is different about the Cobra R's IRS and the regular one?
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Old 05-24-05, 09:01 AM
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What is different about the Cobra R's IRS and the regular one?
There are some notable differences throughout the years:

1999: 28-spline axles, 3.27 gears, soft rubber bushings

2000 R: Massively more beefy. 31-spline axles, exotic 3.55 Girodisc hydro-mechanical posi unit, improved CV joints, improved camber adjustment, hardest bushings of any of the IRS units. Reduced wheel hop.

2001-02: Basically like 1999 but with a small axle improvement; axles are 31-spline on the inside but still 28-spline on the ends. Gears are 3.27:1.

2003-04: Much more like the 2000 R unit. 3.55 posi (but not Gerodisc), 31-spline axles (a bit shorter), hard bushings (still not as hard as the 2000 R), improved camber, improved bump steer.

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Old 05-24-05, 07:55 PM
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awesome car!! I have a dumb question about the rear end. What does it use for upper arms? I only saw the lowers and struts. are the halfshafts supposed to act like an arm? and also on that note with inboard brakes... what happens if you snap a half-shaft?
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Old 05-24-05, 08:14 PM
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It has upper control arms,they bolt tot the top of the cradle. Bad azz set up Reen!!!! Keep the updates comin!
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Old 05-24-05, 08:32 PM
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awesome car!! I have a dumb question about the rear end. What does it use for upper arms? I only saw the lowers and struts. are the halfshafts supposed to act like an arm? and also on that note with inboard brakes... what happens if you snap a half-shaft?
I assume you're referring to the red convertible. Yes, the half shafts act as control arms as well. They are designed to do this and can handle all of the loads involved. If one fails, you will have suspension failure on that side manifested as a radical change in camber, but it's built not to fail. There are thousands upon thousands of cars on the road with this design, commonly referred to as a "Jaguar IRS".
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Old 05-24-05, 08:33 PM
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It has upper control arms,they bolt tot the top of the cradle. Bad azz set up Reen!!!! Keep the updates comin!
I think he was talking about the IRS on the red convertible, not the Cobra IRS above. Now I've mixed the thread all up!
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Old 05-25-05, 01:12 PM
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That would be a good thing...who has the power??
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My God that is sweet ! Who ever said money doesn't buy happiness was full of **** !
you ever see what those motors can do on stock cams, intake, and heads with twin 57mm turbos ? How about 700 RWHP, and 595 RWTQ
same set up seen here in a video of a 2001 Bullitt Mustang - just need forged pistons and rods I'm sure he he
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how are you doing that front end to run that rack, and pinion / coil over etc.. new K member - sorry if I missed that info posted alredy. Is there a kit for all that ?

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Old 05-25-05, 03:21 PM
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how are you doing that front end to run that rack, and pinion / coil over etc.. new K member - sorry if I missed that info posted alredy. Is there a kit for all that ?
The front end is a Heidt's MII setup with a smattering of custom and modified parts to make it all fit together. There are more pics of it all on the previous pages.
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Old 05-25-05, 07:45 PM
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Got the aluminum driveshaft today -- it looks great against the red undercarriage

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Old 05-27-05, 05:24 PM
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Check out this badness....bring on the rear-end collisions! j/k j/k j/k j/k

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Pete,
Who did you pisz off not to deserve a sticky by now? I remember when you first came to the board everyone gave you crap because you were new ; but you definitly gained thier respect rather quickly and were able to contiribute to other members questions as well as your own. Even though you are selling the car you are not looking for free advertisement but you are keeping us all up to date on a project most of us could never dream of completing. I hope you have a few biddders lined up for that car. I just hate looking for the next thread to see what is next for the convertible.

My point - Please sticky this thread!
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Old 06-01-05, 08:48 PM
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The front end is a Heidt's MII setup with a smattering of custom and modified parts to make it all fit together. There are more pics of it all on the previous pages.

What kind of modified parts were required for the heidt's MII?? I will be puting one of these setups in my car some time in the near future. Just wondering if there is any tips or pointers you might point out before I order one up.
Thanks for the heads up
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Old 06-02-05, 09:04 AM
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How many hours would you say that it took to put in the MII front conversion/set up?

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Old 06-02-05, 09:35 AM
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Holy smokes!!!!!!

Awesome...simply...awesome.

I really want to start a project like this in the next few years...on a '67 FB.

Thanks for showin us how it's done.
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Old 06-02-05, 11:29 AM
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Heidt's and Horsepower

Reen,
What kind of horsepower do you suppose you could throw at the Heidt's? It seems like the limit would just have to do with whatever you throw in the 9" rear, but do they have any type of rating for the half-shafts or U-joints?
If it turns out I can actually afford it, (ha!) I'm seriously thinking about an IRS after my floor pans are done. In my dreams I'd like to have a low-compression 351w/408 under the hood approaching 500hp, and supercharge it later if I ever want something extra.

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Old 06-02-05, 12:56 PM
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What kind of modified parts were required for the heidt's MII?? I will be puting one of these setups in my car some time in the near future. Just wondering if there is any tips or pointers you might point out before I order one up.
Thanks for the heads up
Graham
The only mods I had to make had to do with fitting the 4.6. If you're installing a regular small block you won't need to change a thing.
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Old 06-02-05, 12:58 PM
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How many hours would you say that it took to put in the MII front conversion/set up?

Thanks!

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With the car stripped, it takes me about 40 hours start to finish. That's with being really anal about the measurements and every little detail, and spending a lot of time on fitment and surface prep to get nice welds. I could probably do it in half the time and have it function fine, but not look nearly as clean and finished.
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Old 06-02-05, 01:02 PM
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Reen,
What kind of horsepower do you suppose you could throw at the Heidt's? It seems like the limit would just have to do with whatever you throw in the 9" rear, but do they have any type of rating for the half-shafts or U-joints?
If it turns out I can actually afford it, (ha!) I'm seriously thinking about an IRS after my floor pans are done. In my dreams I'd like to have a low-compression 351w/408 under the hood approaching 500hp, and supercharge it later if I ever want something extra.

thanks,
Joe
Well, it's got a Currie Trac-Loc 9", 31-spline Strange axles, and monster U-joints. The Currie solid axle setup with basically the same specs is rated to 600+ horsepower conservatively, and I bet that this would be similar. The only semi-unknown is the U-joints and halfshafts, and I'm in the process of just doing the calculations myself to be able to answer this question. Heidt's can't answer it -- they just say "well, nobody's ever called us claiming they broke one."
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