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01-23-06, 09:48 AM
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No, he runs mid/high 7s in the 1/8 on the gas...thats at or approaching 11s in the 1/4 I believe. Just as an FWI, I run an 8.2 @ 86.X in the 1/8. |
01-23-06, 10:19 AM
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kewl.. i was just wondering, i just talked to my engine builder and gunnar @ patriot. Looks like with the right gaskets and the piston being 5 in the hole.. i should be @ 9.6:1 or with factory gaskets and 0 10.9:1. So I gotta decide wether I am gonna get a blower anytime soon. |
01-23-06, 10:25 AM
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no offense was taken...yea 7.70's is getting close to 11's, they can range from 11.9x-12.0x depending on how the last 1/2 of the track goes...
and i know about hard to believe times Mr 12.79 ahaha...ive been able to get this car down to 8.50's on street tires with 1.9' 60's but even with DR's i wont wanna launch it much harder, not looking to grenade my rear end...so i doubt the times would improve a whole lot....time for some heads/cams i guess...weird...back the original point of this thread... |
01-23-06, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustanggt108 do you guys think its wise to change my stock heads with something else?
I got a 04 GT. if its a good option , which heads should i get, and how much rwhp will i get out of doing so?? | This guys going to come back and be like "WOW 4 pages!" . Half way down pg 1 "what?" Pg2 "Shut up guys!" Pg 3 "NOOOOO!!!" Pg 4 "AARGGGG!!!!...wait one little tech piece" lol
Ok dude, this completely depends on what you want to do with the car. If you want alot of power fast, get a supercharger. N/A is definatly not for everyone, takes ALOT of work to just get where im at. A properly driven and N/A setup Head/cam/ FULL bolton GT on slicks can go a 11.9 @ 111-113ish. Bout as fast as a S/C GT with mild boltons. About the same money if you do it all yourself (depending on the s/c kit also). If a consisten and very reliable mid 12sec car is what you want, then go with a H/C/I setup. If you want more power down the line you can do like Adrenln and get blower cams now with the heads, then add the S/C later. Or you can just get a supercharger if you want to QUICKLY and EASILY have a 12 second car, then add all the boltons and you should be in the 11s pretty easy. But you will need to start saving for a differnt engine because a S/C motor wont last forever you know lol, little bit of detination and its gone. Ahhh SOOO many choices  .  |
01-23-06, 12:48 PM
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I got another que... nevermind I'll start a new thread lol. |
01-23-06, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda kewl.. i was just wondering, i just talked to my engine builder and gunnar @ patriot. Looks like with the right gaskets and the piston being 5 in the hole.. i should be @ 9.6:1 or with factory gaskets and 0 10.9:1. So I gotta decide wether I am gonna get a blower anytime soon. |
dude stick to 10:1. you can still blow the hell out of it. propper cam to bleed low rpm's cylinder pressure, VERY good intercooling (air-water), and engine managment to handle all situations.don't piss away output because of misnomers about C/R. sure pre-ignition happens, but there are factors you can control. reflective coatings, smoothed chamber surfaces, cool plugs, a slightly rich mixture to quench hot spots, etc. intercooling overkill. that's the ticket. |
01-23-06, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by billfisher dude stick to 10:1. you can still blow the hell out of it. propper cam to bleed low rpm's cylinder pressure, VERY good intercooling (air-water), and engine managment to handle all situations.don't piss away output because of misnomers about C/R. sure pre-ignition happens, but there are factors you can control. reflective coatings, smoothed chamber surfaces, cool plugs, a slightly rich mixture to quench hot spots, etc. intercooling overkill. that's the ticket. | No, bad advice. You need to build the engine for the applications. If you already had a built engine, then that would be one thing. If you're building an engine, build it properly. It would be foolish to do otherwise. |
01-26-06, 01:29 PM
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Just as reference to the flat top and ported head equation. My numbers in on my sig.Stock intake. Yes I know they are STD but deal wtih it  . I compare numbers on my car, so I dont really car about others. http://members.cox.net/pitbull23/Dyno52805.jpg
this is one messed looking dyno. What is with all the inaccurate dyno's popping around?? |
01-26-06, 07:14 PM
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come on dude. humor me.
he can run higher compression with the proper matched cam, and other components.
i wouldn't want to melt a piston. for a supercharger i am more likely to keep most of the compression.
the roush blower for the 5.4 3v doesn't require a lower C/R.
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01-26-06, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by billfisher come on dude. humor me. | Who, me? Yea, I think you can do that in a race application and run race gas and make a lot of power.  Probably not the best setup for a street car. |
01-27-06, 12:00 AM
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mogs, whats with the big power jump between your runs? what did you add? |
01-27-06, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ADRENLN mogs, whats with the big power jump between your runs? what did you add? | You mean the dyno in my sig?
nothing much, build mark 8 block: manley rods, stock GT crank, Ross flat top pistons, .020 bore, cobra pump. That's all .
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01-27-06, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hotmustang331 Another guy on here has stg 1 VT cams and MPH STG 2.5 heads (flow MUCH more than patriots...like 20CFM....thats alot on the 2V world lol) and puts down 310 or 311RWHP. | That's probably me, I have a Steeda CAI, Accufab T/B & Plenum, Steeda Intake Spacer, UDP, TA, VT Stage 1 Cams, Bassani Mid Lengths, Bassani X Pipe, Steeda Cat Back, 3:73's, Superchips Tune, MPH Stage 2.5 Heads all tuned by Steeda Autosports and my car puts down 310rwhp and 325rwtq. Prior to the heads and header install and the retune my car made 284rwhp and 302rwtq. With the install of the cams alone and a retune my car gained 33rwhp and 13rwtq.
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11-06-09, 04:31 PM
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I have a 01 S-281 Vortech Supercharged, 3:73 Gears, Long tube headers, 60lbs Injectors, X-pipe and a custom tune and it dyno'd 336rwhp at the wheels...so there is no way urs is the same with just cams and heads | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
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