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01-19-06, 02:17 PM
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do you guys think its wise to change my stock heads with something else?
I got a 04 GT. if its a good option , which heads should i get, and how much rwhp will i get out of doing so?? |
01-19-06, 02:54 PM
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Do you mean should you get some Ported heads?
What are your plans?
Foxlake seems to be the hot ticket rigth now I think Patriots took care of the QC issue they had and I'm sure there are a bunch more places doing them too.
If I were to do some I'd want to do cams at the same time and that means a good tune. So with me doing all the install myself I'd drop around 2700 into it and from what I've seen people are getting 30+ (heard of as high as 100) RWHP NA for all that. Just the heads with stock cams maybe 40 not sure never seen anyone do that and about 1500 bucks. |
01-19-06, 03:04 PM
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i was thinking ported heads with VT stage 1 cams!!!
what gains might i see with this set up ?
and do i HAVE to tune it?
coz i heard stage one cams dont require a tune |
01-19-06, 03:26 PM
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I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now  |
01-19-06, 03:40 PM
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01-19-06, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now | Thats cheaper than a supercharger.  How does you car run, and what are your supporting mods. |
01-19-06, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now | That makes me a happy man. I have a set oftheir cams on the way. |
01-19-06, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now |
336rwhp  I would like to see a full list of mods please.  |
01-19-06, 04:09 PM
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car runs great.. idle was brought up about 100 rpm.... i have underdrive pulley's and full exhaust. it has great response and pulls like a mule. |
01-19-06, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now |
What cams and what is your exhaust setup, do you have a dyno. I would like to see the torque curve. Do you have gears? Thanks |
01-19-06, 04:58 PM
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yeah i got 3.73's. i will have to get the sheet scanned.. my scanner no worky lol. the specs for the cams are on patriots website. stage 2's. my tuner is awesome though. i never got it dyno'ed after his first tune on my car. he does street tunes and goes by the numbers instead of HP. He is very well known and does alot of top race cars.
I'll get that scanned when i remeber and post it up. |
01-19-06, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now | Will it pass emissions? |
01-19-06, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stangman |
AGREED |
01-20-06, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Toms_2003_Stang Will it pass emissions? |
with the O/H.. no.. .but here in my small town... YES lol |
01-20-06, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now | sounds high to me, patriot st2 heads flow about the same as others st1 heads. I'd like to know the rest of your mods. Justs exhaust P&P heads and cams isn't going to get you to 336RWHP on a 2V. You'll need intake, high comression shortblock, electric waterpump etc etc so i'm calling  |
01-20-06, 03:21 PM
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call it all ya want... doesnt change my car. |
01-20-06, 04:17 PM
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Post your dyno run and prove him wrong then! |
01-20-06, 04:56 PM
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Go to another dyno unless you like throwing those inflated numbers out there. There is no way those mods got you to 336rwhp. Something is not right with the dyno you ran on. You should be right around 300. |
01-20-06, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda call it all ya want... doesnt change my car. | No but it does tell us that either you or your tuner inflated your numbers. Did he give your RWHP or some flywheel estimate?
I'm not calling you a liar, but that hp doesn't seem possible with your mods. These cars do vary and you may have a factory freak, but 336 RWHP is something I have never seen with simple mods. That's why everyone here is either going to call or they are thinking it.
Just post a dyno graph or track times or some more explaination into why you have that kind of hp. We need concrete evidence.
BTW my car makes just over 5 billion hp due to my stage 69 ram air CIA setup.  |
01-20-06, 06:04 PM
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im calling major bs!!!! my mods crush yours, im nowhere near 336 rwhp. that is total crap. another guy on here hotmustang also has similar mods to me, which also chrush your mods, and hes making 3 more rwhp then me at 293rwhp. we should hear him chime in soon.
anyway if you were to get p&p heads and stage 1 cams you will gain around 30-50 rwhp depending on the parts. i gained 35 rwhp from my set up. |
01-20-06, 06:13 PM
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yes you said it right Stage 1.. mine first of all are not Stage 1, and second my car dyno'ed 20 RWHP more than every other stock GT when it was bone stock. I dont know why.. but it did. I will have you a dyno sheet soon. until then believe what ya want to believe. It was the same thing I heard when I was told a Vert GT with UD's and 3.73's would not run 13.6... but it did andwas consistant until this mod. I have no new track numbers yet. |
01-20-06, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 01Steeda I just put Patriot stage 2 heads and cams on my 01 steeda.. went from 248 RWHP to 336 RWHP. spent about 3000 including tune.... it was well worth it to me. going stroker shortblock now | Alright, let me get this straight. You said, "and second my car dyno'ed 20 RWHP more than every other stock GT when it was bone stock." Bone stock GT's are around 220 RWHP, so you where what at stock, 240? You said you have full exhaust and and UDP's, and your at 248 with that. Around 8 hp gain from full exhaust and pullies? hmmmm. I'm missing something. What where your stock numbers that were 20 hp more than others?
Then you add heads and cams with tune and get 88 RWHP. hmmmm.
Seriously dude, I hope your telling the truth because I'll order those UDP's and Patriot heads right now. I would love to have that hp. I just have a hard time with your hp numbers when others with more mods aren't even close to your claim.
Where's that dyno graph. It can't take that long to download photoshop, can it. Just bustin balls brother.  |
01-20-06, 07:48 PM
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Ok, here is my dyno from bone stock.. no I was mistaken when I said 248 with UD's and exhaust.. my car has always had exhaust.. but come on, how much does flowmasters help? still had cats and still have stock manifolds.
didnt get a dyno after the UD's or the tune. http://members.cox.net/pitbull23/Dyno52805.jpg
believe or not, I am done arguing about something as trivial as this |
01-20-06, 08:33 PM
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what is that? i have a dyno that says i had 241rwhp at one time....what the hell does that mean. where is the dyno for 336rwhp?
dude you must be joking. are you just assuming you gained that much hp from heads and cams. cars with blowers gain that much from heads and cams not n/a cars. theres no way you could have gained 88rwhp. even with a stage 2 cam, whats that give maybe 15rwhp peak then a stage 1.
not only that, mid pipe, pullies, catback should maybe give 15rwhp. so 225 which what most gts dyno stock + 15 =240rwhp. so we will say you picked up 8 from the tune. 248rwhp....that is not 20 hp over other gts. |
01-20-06, 09:17 PM
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