[Dan_Soprano]

Originally Posted by UDTBadkarma

Here is my only problem: If im going to get rid of my car, now is the time before the price of her drops over the next year / years. I can not afford to save for a cobra, and wont be able to for anther few years most likely. I realize that now i can pretty much even swap my 02 GT for a 99 cobra, so im trying to take advantage of it. I only really like the 99/01 cobras. The 98s and lower aren't as nice nor as fast and the 03s+ are too expensive.

BUT i am VERY picky, and will only settle for a black onm black cobra.

Now i know this cobra has been beat on, and needs some TLC, but i just dont want a bad clutch and worn radio dials/buttons to be the only thing keeping me from getting an otherwise nice car.

My GT needs rotors and brakes all around thsi summer as well as new tires all around too...so whether i do that on the GT or the cobra makes no difference. In fact it would be better to do on the cobra, since i was going to spend more cash to upgrade my GT to cobra brakes anyway.

I need to work out a negotiation, but i mean i would LOVE to own a cobra, and if i can get some things fixed, i just dont want to pass up an otherwise good car that has potential...

know what i mean?


but yeah im aware this car has seem some action...

you NEED to get a compression test done on the motor.

[imblown-ru]

Excellent (Selected)
$13,680
"Excellent" condition means that the vehicle looks new, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning. This vehicle has never had any paint or body work and is free of rust. The vehicle has a clean title history and will pass a smog and safety inspection. The engine compartment is clean, with no fluid leaks and is free of any wear or visible defects. The vehicle also has complete and verifiable service records. Less than 5% of all used vehicles fall into this category.


theres the kbb of the cobra in excellent condition. i would call it fair/poor probably.

[98blackmagic]

dude that car looks rough, most of you guys know I just got my 99 3 weeks ago and (im not trying to talk crap about your possible purchase) mine looks a hell of a lot better than this black one your looking at. This one looks like it has not been taken care of and needs some attention to put it back in a respectable condition. I dont recall seeing what they were asking for it but I can tell you I paid 13 for mine and it is in tip top shape There are no body dings, scratches, chips or anything like that, the tires were new and the interior was spotless. It had all service records and there is 52000 miles on the clock. Also it was all stock other than a pair of Borla mufflers. From what I've seen on the car your looking at, there is no way I would ever consider it, you can find another cobra possibly an 01 with a good price tag.

[BlackenedSVT]

Ok well look.

1st off, that cobra (if it had a new clutch) has GOT to be faster than my GT, there is no way my GT with my mods is anywhere near in leage with that Cobra.

Hell, there is no way i could keep up with a stock strong runnign cobra. And thsi cobra has LT headers, midipipe and catback.....with a new clutch this thing would be blowing the doors off of me and u guys know it.

Also, i originally made the post worded negatively like that so you guys would here all the down sides to the car. This way i can see if you guys would say: **** it man! still get it! or not...

I did say some nice things too..

HONESTLY, in person, you can't see as many scratches/dings in the bumper as you can in teh pictures. i thinkt he sun hit it just right, i dont know. The paint looks in GREAT condition for a 99. I didn't think the bumper looked bad at all. looked the same as my 02 GT from highway driving. You'll have that, so it didn't bother me. And the car drove real niec and was SOLID to the road.

[Kilgore Trout]

I dunno, the more I read the post and look at the pictures the more I like it... The engine is damn clean and 45k is a great amount of miles for that year, would have expected more.

I am sure you could correct much of what is wrong. Yu should track down the previous owner and shove those rain guards over the side windows up his butt

[98blackmagic]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

I dunno, the more I read the post and look at the pictures the more I like it... The engine is damn clean and 45k is a great amount of miles for that year, would have expected more.

I am sure you could correct much of what is wrong. Yu should track down the previous owner and shove those rain guards over the side windows up his butt

[98blackmagic]

Originally Posted by UDTBadkarma

Ok well look.

1st off, that cobra (if it had a new clutch) has GOT to be faster than my GT, there is no way my GT with my mods is anywhere near in leage with that Cobra.

Hell, there is no way i could keep up with a stock strong runnign cobra. And thsi cobra has LT headers, midipipe and catback.....with a new clutch this thing would be blowing the doors off of me and u guys know it.

Also, i originally made the post worded negatively like that so you guys would here all the down sides to the car. This way i can see if you guys would say: **** it man! still get it! or not...

I did say some nice things too..

HONESTLY, in person, you can't see as many scratches/dings in the bumper as you can in teh pictures. i thinkt he sun hit it just right, i dont know. The paint looks in GREAT condition for a 99. I didn't think the bumper looked bad at all. looked the same as my 02 GT from highway driving. You'll have that, so it didn't bother me. And the car drove real niec and was SOLID to the road.

yea with full exhaust (if the car had the factory fix you might want to call SVT and check on that) it should be around 300 at the tires, and should feel good on the street.

[BlackenedSVT]

Thanks kilgore. Thats what im talking about.

Basically what im saing is this:

If the car had new tires new brakes and a new clutch and only had the body damage, (which is minor, really)...it would be a great car right?

So aside from the clutch, why would i let some wear and tear parts prevent the sale of the car?

thats all im saying. I want to get as MUCh out of the trade as i can from the dealer, having him replace a LOT of the broken/damaged stuff on the car. and if he doesn't ill walk...but if he does, then i'll have a good car.

I'm not looking for a mint car, i mean **** my GT isn't mint. Its beat a little too, with highway dings and scratches. Its my daily driver, i can't be as fortunate as some of you guys to have a garage for the cobra/GT and a truck as my daily driver.

So some road damage i expect. Its just the side gash, window visor gayness and clutch that im really worried about...like i said i need to do brakes and rotors and tires on my GT this summer anyway...so

[98blackmagic]

Originally Posted by UDTBadkarma

Thanks kilgore. Thats what im talking about.

Basically what im saing is this:

If the car had new tires new brakes and a new clutch and only had the body damage, (which is minor, really)...it would be a great car right?

So aside from the clutch, why would i let some wear and tear parts prevent the sale of the car?

thats all im saying. I want to get as MUCh out of the trade as i can from the dealer, having him replace a LOT of the broken/damaged stuff on the car. and if he doesn't ill walk...but if he does, then i'll have a good car.

I'm not looking for a mint car, i mean **** my GT isn't mint. Its beat a little too, with highway dings and scratches. Its my daily driver, i can't be as fortunate as some of you guys to have a garage for the cobra/GT and a truck as my daily driver.

So some road damage i expect. Its just the side gash, window visor gayness and clutch that im really worried about...like i said i need to do brakes and rotors and tires on my GT this summer anyway...so

sounds to me like you have already made your mind up

[BlackenedSVT]

Nope, actually im COMPLETELY open ended right now.

I'm totaly willing to walk away if the dealer doesn't cooperate with what i want done to the car. And if he wants my car + cash...then im GONE.

So im ready to give up on the car, but at the same time, if i cna get him to fix some things, then yeah i'll still take the car.

[imblown-ru]

most everything can be taken care of with some money and some work i guess, the main things that concern me are those window shades taking up paint when you pull them off...i would say you need about 4k for a new paint job, because you do want to repaint if you pull paint up. Do you have to take off LT's on a cobra to do a clutch? getting a new head unit wouldnt be too bad, and you could recondition the leather on the seats. i just cant stand any body imperfections. i found some trash in my paint this weekend and its going back to the body shop monday.

[BlackenedSVT]

Originally Posted by Dan_Soprano

you NEED to get a compression test done on the motor.

why do i NEED to do a compression test on the car? I can go buy a tester for like $30 at the store this week...but im not 100% sure the dealer would let me pull the fuel pump fuse and pull some spark plugs and run a compression test in his driveway LOL.

I can talk to him about letting me BORROW the car...but i've never heard of that being done...so i dont think that can happen.

Why do you think i need to compression check it? The engine seemed to run fine to me...minus the very annoying buzzing comign from that crappy dynomax cat-back

[BlackenedSVT]

Originally Posted by imblown-ru

most everything can be taken care of with some money and some work i guess, the main things that concern me are those window shades taking up paint when you pull them off...i would say you need about 4k for a new paint job, because you do want to repaint if you pull paint up. Do you have to take off LT's on a cobra to do a clutch? getting a new head unit wouldnt be too bad, and you could recondition the leather on the seats. i just cant stand any body imperfections. i found some trash in my paint this weekend and its going back to the body shop monday.

Ok i think some of you are just being unreasonable now

$4k for a new paint job to take those window visors off? 1st off, some heat will take those things right off...now if the paint is gluey or screwed, then yeah i will need to replace them...but those are molding peices i could get new ones and have them painted for like $200 IF THAT. Where'd you get $4k from? I sure as hell wouldnt' repaint the whole car...

I dont like body imperfections either...but this cobra hs the SAME ones my GT has atm. I even have the rear fender well gash (mines touched up better) as well as rock chipped bumper...so this doesn't have body imperfections that im not ok with.

[imblown-ru]

Originally Posted by UDTBadkarma

Ok i think some of you are just being unreasonable now

$4k for a new paint job to take those window visors off? 1st off, some heat will take those things right off...now if the paint is gluey or screwed, then yeah i will need to replace them...but those are molding peices i could get new ones and have them painted for like $200 IF THAT. Where'd you get $4k from? I sure as hell wouldnt' repaint the whole car...

I dont like body imperfections either...but this cobra hs the SAME ones my GT has atm. I even have the rear fender well gash (mines touched up better) as well as rock chipped bumper...so this doesn't have body imperfections that im not ok with.

im not being unreasonable. if you rip a bunch of paint off of those panels, you COULD replace them and then have two brand new painted trim pieces with a otherwise poor body, but i would want all the problems with the body fixed. i personally would tell the dealer i want them off when i pick the car up

[02GTdroptop]

Don't do it; it's DEFINITELY seen better days... You're trading your problems with new problems bro.

[ADRENLN]

that thing is a mess.

[98blackmagic]

Originally Posted by ADRENLN

that thing is a mess.

its got some problems, but they can be fixed

[BlackenedSVT]

Well i wanted some constructive criticism but DAMN LOL
Does ANYONE like hte car?! lol

What do you all own mint cars? Geeze

[98blackmagic]

Originally Posted by UDTBadkarma

Well i wanted some constructive criticism but DAMN LOL
Does ANYONE like hte car?! lol

What do you all own mint cars? Geeze

hey you wanted opinions on it and your getting them, some good and some bad . I think the problem here is the fact that the car has some issues that need to be fixed and no numbers have been discussed to show how good of a deal the car could be. If the price falls to what would be considered a great deal (meaning somewhere well under the book value) then it would be a much better purchase, if the price stays around book then it sucks . No we dont all own mint cars, but can pick out problems on other peoples , and try to ignore our own

[Dan_Soprano]

doing a compression test will tell you for sure if the motor is in top condition. I would never buy a used car without doing it. I'd hate to buy a car, fun it for a few months, and then find out that I need to rebuild the block because there was a cracked ring land or something like that. Also, did you run a carfax on the vehicle?

[BlackenedSVT]

I ran a CARFAX and would just like to add the fact that this car has had 3 owners, all of which were in Jersey, clean title no accidents no problems reported. The dealer says the car was ALL adult owned.

More random pics of the car...What can you tell me about the block SVT Signature guys??



(Both of these above were taken from the dealer while it was in the lot last week)


Here are some pics of the signed block:


zoomed in now:



(Interior)


(new floor mats, found in the trunk)


(rear seats, in good condition)



What can you guys tell me about the block signature?

[BlackenedSVT]

Originally Posted by Dan_Soprano

doing a compression test will tell you for sure if the motor is in top condition. I would never buy a used car without doing it. I'd hate to buy a car, fun it for a few months, and then find out that I need to rebuild the block because there was a cracked ring land or something like that. Also, did you run a carfax on the vehicle?

Think there is anyway they would let me borrow the car for a day this weekend so i can take it to my shop to test the **** out of her? hahahah. I really dont think a dealer would do that, thats why i'm kind of stuck here. I'll talk to my mechanics where i work and instructors at my technical school and see what they think...

i was DYING to get the car on a lift and inspect the suspension and IRS, but to no avail of course

[CRZYHRSGT]

All the problems that you see now are the obvious problems. I'm sure that there will be other things that will show their ugly faces in the following weeks after you purchase the car. I would also agree that the car has definately seen better days. If he's unsure about the even trade, then he's more than likely NOT going to do a clutch, tires or brakes. I understand that you're also going to have to do tires and brakes on your GT, but you have to also put into consideration all of the other things that you've already seen that are wrong with the Cobra as well as the future issues. If he does come back and say that they'll do it, I would definately take it to a quality shop and have a pre-purchase inspection done on it as well as the previously mentioned compression test. Then you can compare notes between yours and their's and if it doesn't look much worse to them, then it's up to you.

[BlackenedSVT]

well its only sunday. and he said we can meet up again and talk about it on Wednesday or Thursday. Then i will ask him if i can borrow the car (assuming he wants to do the trade) otherwise he'll call me up, say no and i'll be on my merry way to another car.

I'll keep you guys posted though

I'll try and run a compression test later in the week on the cobra. Can anyone give me stock compression specs for a 99 cobra? Otherwise i'll have to look them up on all-data later in the week.

Also, can anyone tell me something interesting about the Vavle cover SVT plaque signature?
The driver side door plaqcard says the production date was: 05/99

[BlackenedSVT]

ALSO, the seats did not have ANY runnign horse NOR cobra on them Are they supposed to on the 99 cobras?

I admit i was disappointed, i wanted to see the cobra on them