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05-15-06, 03:47 PM
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Jimmy,
Congrats! Tell your blushing bride the same. Too bad my kid's Mom moved from Vegas! I really enjoyed meeting you guys.
My Ford contact tells me to sit tight, more info on the way. I remember GM working hard on the copyright thing years ago, but they did not go after anything with the names, just trademarks. We'll have to see how things develop.
Thanks to Ol' Shel', I drive a "FFR Type 65 Roadster". |
05-15-06, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chepsk8 Thanks to Ol' Shel', I drive a "FFR Type 65 Roadster". | They should've gone with Fobra.
I also think Stangalang has a funny ring to it. "Stangalang Restoration parts, how may I help you?."  |
05-15-06, 08:25 PM
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I think we need to start a letter writing campaign to good ol' Billy Ford telling him what a Jerk he is and how angry we are about this.
I have already emailed everyone I know with this story and Billy Ford's address so they can write him...I urge all of you to do the same! |
05-16-06, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mdjay it will be his editorial in the July issue of Mustang Monthly coming out next month. |
Wonder if Ford's going to make them change their name too . . .
-Chelle |
05-16-06, 08:57 AM
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IMHO this is crap. I did a fast review of the mustang sites and I did not see any infringements of the mustang trademark. I for one intend to right ford and express my thoughts on this subject. I understand the need to protect a company IP but this is out of line. But this has made the decision to remove all the F.O.R.D and M.U.S.T.A.N.G lettering from my car easy after all they could decide that I have violated there design or trademark or something and they will come and get my car and hit me with a large fine. |
05-16-06, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jester67 I understand the need to protect a company IP but this is out of line. | Is it money, or quality control that's the issue?
I mean if someone gets ****ty customer service from say...Mustangs Plus, I can see why Ford would want to distance themselves from that company. But at the same time, only an absolute moron would think that the two companies were affiliated.
Unfortunately, I come across absolute morons everyday, so IMO, it's not so far fetched.  |
05-16-06, 01:40 PM
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05-16-06, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Henceforward |
One day I will own one of those!!!!!!!  |
05-16-06, 07:57 PM
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Freakin bs. No way that Denise Haliki loses to that rat on Eleanor and Ford pulls this bs....
I went to an event a while back, all Mustangs, and there was a guy from Ford there talking about how the club and it's members help "polish the blue oval"-this does nothing but tarnish it imo. |
05-16-06, 09:03 PM
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Wow! This is truely sad and pathetic.
There should be a statute of limitations on trademark infringement suits. It’s as if they intentionally waited for these businesses to become established and profitable before slapping them with a suit. And/or Ford decided they no longer need the free name recognition publicity provided by so many classic parts suppliers. Now that Ford has a successful new retro styled Mustang, maybe they figure suing the aftermarket parts suppliers will substantially drive up the cost of restoration parts in hopes of increasing new Mustang sales.
And to think I’ve been looking to buy a new Mustang GT.
I think I’ll pass. |
05-16-06, 09:51 PM
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05-17-06, 07:56 AM
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I tried signing it and got a fatal error when trying to submit my signature.
Ok I looked at the petition and it added me 4 times since I refreshed a couple time when I got the fatal error.
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05-17-06, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chepsk8 Jimmy,
Congrats! Tell your blushing bride the same. Too bad my kid's Mom moved from Vegas! I really enjoyed meeting you guys.
My Ford contact tells me to sit tight, more info on the way. I remember GM working hard on the copyright thing years ago, but they did not go after anything with the names, just trademarks. We'll have to see how things develop.
Thanks to Ol' Shel', I drive a "FFR Type 65 Roadster". | Thanks. Yeah it be cool to hang out with you again. Sorry about Shel, but it looks like you're having fun driving the Roadster. |
05-17-06, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffnoel I tried signing it and got a fatal error when trying to submit my signature.
Ok I looked at the petition and it added me 4 times since I refreshed a couple time when I got the fatal error. | Me too.  |
05-17-06, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffnoel I tried signing it and got a fatal error when trying to submit my signature.
Ok I looked at the petition and it added me 4 times since I refreshed a couple time when I got the fatal error. | Not sure what happened but I'm pretty sure it was a fatal blow to my laptop. Don't click it!
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05-17-06, 09:24 AM
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No you get the error but if you go to the sig page your name was added. Afte you add your name ignore the error page and go back a page (do not try to refresh or resend info) and click on the Signature tab near the top of the page you'll see your name was added to the petition. If you keep trying to refresh your name will be added multiple times like mine was each time I hit the refresh key.
The "fatal error" message I got was related to the website not my computer.
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05-17-06, 09:33 AM
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Maybe just bad timing but my laptop hit the floor... |
05-17-06, 03:40 PM
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imma laugh when one of the companies counter-sues and wins |
05-17-06, 06:46 PM
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Im gonna make a better petition in a little bit. It will be better written from a better site. |
05-17-06, 07:04 PM
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05-17-06, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tylerdru | Internet petitions don't carry much weight. The written word via snail-mail still rules when seeking real impact. |
05-18-06, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Henceforward |
As I said in my previous post; perhaps North American Aviation (or it's assigns) should sue Ford for having -over the last 40+ years- capitalized on their idea of naming the "secretary's car" after NAA's (back then) 26-year-old warbird design!
Hey, maybe the British government should sue Ford!
1.) They actually affixed the moniker "Mustang" to NAA's prototype fighter.
2.) In today's "politically correct" (read: "bass-ackwards") world; a foreign government just might have a decent case if brought against an iconic American industrial giant.
Even if the case isn't tried; just the threat might cause Ford's legal team to re-think their postion and authority.
Don't get me wrong, I've finally returned from the "Dark Side" (RIP, Rice-Eating Generic Chevy Truck) and have an F150 4x4 as a DD; but Jeeze, people! For years, a lot of folks have bought new Mustangs because they felt they couldn't afford the time/money to restore or build up the old Stangs that have been built from Bramlet's/Jay's parts. To sue people for devoting their careers to supporting a Ford product is the height of stupidity; from a PR standpoint as well as a financial standpoint. What morons......  EDIT: I just love Google! It sent me to a Wikipedia article. Can you just see this headline: "Boeing and Great Britain Sue Ford For Trademark Infringement Over The Name 'Mustang' " 
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05-18-06, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mdjay This needs the attention of the main stream media! It's been buried for over 6 mos now! | Jay, has this affected you yet? will it affect you? |
05-18-06, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jikelly Mdjay I hope this all goes well for you. I want your buisness to grow so you can start making parts for the 71-73 stang, preferably a rack and pinion setup, fiberglass hood, new front bumper covers, I could go on.
We're getting married in Vegas July 2nd, maybe we can get together again. |
I agree, us big body mustang guys needs people like you in this hobby to start making new parts for our cars, ie fiberglass hoods and such. |
05-18-06, 05:25 AM
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I for one plan on writting Mr. Ford on this. As someone else has said I believe this will have more of an impact. Also I don't know if anyone else is planning on attending the All Ford Nats at Carlisle next month, but perhaps this would be a good place to get the word out to a bigger audience. I think I will look into contacting Carlisle events.
PS: If you plan to write to Mr. Ford, PLease use proper formatting, grammar and run spell check. We don't want to come off looking like a bunch of uneducated, pissed-off hicks. If you are using Microsoft word to compose your letter it has a template for business letters.
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