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05-14-07, 01:10 PM
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Is this a good system? I was thinking of buying this intake for my 04 mach and wanted to check to see if anyone had any opinions on it. I did a search but didn't come up with anything about the system on the mach 1. | 
05-14-07, 02:39 PM
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Alot of people had problems with the K@N CAI causing stalling. Supposedly the culprit was people took the screen out of the inside of the CAI. Leave it in. I had the K@N CAI but the screeen being left in was'nt my problem. It stalled no matter what. I ditched it and bought the C@L Tru-Flo Intake. Never had a problem since. JLT is suppose to be a good one. MRT is a good one also. | 
05-14-07, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Crzyhrse Alot of people had problems with the K@N CAI causing stalling. Supposedly the culprit was people took the screen out of the inside of the CAI. Leave it in. I had the K@N CAI but the screeen being left in was'nt my problem. It stalled no matter what. I ditched it and bought the C@L Tru-Flo Intake. Never had a problem since. JLT is suppose to be a good one. MRT is a good one also. | Good to know. Thanks | 
05-15-07, 10:23 AM
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I went with the C&L intake setup for reasons other than the performance gains of the intake alone. It's a good, solid intake, and when used in conjunction with their 85mm MAF and Mach 1 air box, performs great with no stalling or surging issues.  | 
05-15-07, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TR03Mach1 I went with the C&L intake setup for reasons other than the performance gains of the intake alone. It's a good, solid intake, and when used in conjunction with their 85mm MAF and Mach 1 air box, performs great with no stalling or surging issues.  | That kit looks really nice. Hows the nitrous in these cars? I Had nitrous in my camaro ss and that car just loved the juice. | 
05-16-07, 10:42 AM
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These cars seem to really love any type of FI, nitrous, sc, or turbo. Just as long as you don't go nuts with it on the stock bottom end. | 
05-16-07, 01:40 PM
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I'm looking at teh C&L myslef, why would we really need a 85mm MAF? What size is the stock TB?
Also wouldnt you need a retune for the MAF to work right? | 
05-16-07, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 32valves I'm looking at teh C&L myslef, why would we really need a 85mm MAF? What size is the stock TB?
Also wouldnt you need a retune for the MAF to work right? | The C&L system doesn't use a new MAF per se, it uses a 85mm MAF housing with the stock sensors. A tune is almost a guaranteed requirement, as the C&L tends to significantly lean out the A/F ratio. | 
05-16-07, 05:15 PM
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He's right, it's kind of a misnomer to say MAF, when it's actually the stock MAF electronics in a 85mm MAF housing. I never had the leaning out issue with the C&L unit, even with nitrous. It was so on the money, I went back to the stock tune while running a 100 shot of nitrous! | 
05-26-07, 03:07 PM
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Ah who needs C&L when you can run with JLT, eh? I know I do. | 
05-26-07, 04:05 PM
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When I went to get a dynotune a couple years back, I was actually running rich with my C@L, X-pipe, and Catback. They leaned it out to get it back up to 12.8-13.2 range. Never had a problem with C@L on my Mach, nor my '93 GT that I had a C@L 73mm Mass Air meter on. People that knock them don't know what their talking about. | 
05-31-07, 07:09 AM
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no problems with my K&N filter but maybe thats because I have a tune | 
05-31-07, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TR03Mach1 I went with the C&L intake setup for reasons other than the performance gains of the intake alone. It's a good, solid intake, and when used in conjunction with their 85mm MAF and Mach 1 air box, performs great with no stalling or surging issues.  | i have a c&l on my 94 and it does seem to be a really good brand i know its not a mach but i figured i would throw that in there... we are in the market for a mach and i always see the c&l for that tube but what about the other one in the front is there some replacement for that one? | 
05-31-07, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trav_19 i have a c&l on my 94 and it does seem to be a really good brand i know its not a mach but i figured i would throw that in there... we are in the market for a mach and i always see the c&l for that tube but what about the other one in the front is there some replacement for that one? | If you buy the C@L Tru-Flow Intake for the Mach 1, you'll get the Intake tube, the 85mm housing and a 9" K@N conical filter. They also sell just the Intake tube all by itself. | 
06-02-07, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Crzyhrse If you buy the C@L Tru-Flow Intake for the Mach 1, you'll get the Intake tube, the 85mm housing and a 9" K@N conical filter. They also sell just the Intake tube all by itself. | oh so the kit comes with both tubes thats cool  | 
06-03-07, 07:18 PM
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06-03-07, 09:02 PM
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i think i'm gonna go with the c&l eventually | 
06-03-07, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by trav_19 oh so the kit comes with both tubes thats cool  | Like 32valves said, not the shaker tube in front. I thought you were talking about the housing in front of the mass air meter. But you can get your shaker tube chromed if you want. That's what I did to mine. Expensive though  , unless you do it yourself. | 
06-04-07, 01:22 PM
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I have the K&N and it does stall every great once in a while.
I have debated going to the JLT, it seems to give great power. | 
06-04-07, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithCobraUH I have debated going to the JLT, it seems to give great power. | I've read more than afew times on M1R of guys getting the JLT and saying it's a very tight fit or does'nt fit correctly. | 
06-04-07, 09:37 PM
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Just for the record since it hasn't been mentioned yet, you don't HAVE to get the C&L intake with the 85mm MAF housing. I'm using it with the stock MAF housing but with their conical filter and filter cover. You do have to use their filter cover because the intake pipe won't fit otherwise (I tried). | 
06-10-07, 09:38 PM
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I have the K&N and have had know problems whatsoever. My car put down 324/341 with a Diablosport tune. | 
06-10-07, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JOEGTS I have the K&N and have had know problems whatsoever. My car put down 324/341 with a Diablosport tune. | I hope that's with more than a K@N and a tune, or that shop is blowing some serious smoke up your ass.
*Edit* I saw your Long Tube post, so you have more than that.
Last edited by Crzyhrse; 06-10-07 at 10:24 PM.
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