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08-31-07, 11:17 AM
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| | | Can someone explain the point of 'Drifting' to me?
I have been seeing these NOPI shows on SpeedChannel that feature drifting.
From what I can see, it appears that these people have spent large sums of money to make a perfectly good car corner poorly. If you live in the north, we get to do this every winter in the K-Mart parking lot without spending wads of cash... it's called 'doing doughnuts'. Many of us are also familiar with Outlaw racing on dirt. In both cases, the racing surface is slick but the car is made to grip and corner as well as possible.
Am I missing something or would it not be faster to get around the course in a car that was set up properly and did not constantly spin the rear tires?
Another question, how is this drifting competition judged? Does quantity, color, and smell, of the tire smoke count for something... If there are 'style' points given (like figure skating, synchronized swimming, or any other weenie sport, etc...) then it's not really a sport, is it?
Can someone please explain. 
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08-31-07, 11:47 AM
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They don't do it to go fast, they do it to show that they can control a car in a "power slide" or "drift". They arent racing a clock, merely trying to get brownie points. It's all just for show not for any speed per say. |
08-31-07, 12:40 PM
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08-31-07, 12:46 PM
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i heard it described here once as the "ballet of racing" |
08-31-07, 01:01 PM
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08-31-07, 01:08 PM
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Drifting usually gets you into wrecks. Just watch Hogan knows best and watch his kid wreck all the FREE VIPERS...that spoiled little brat that can't drive for chit!!
Then he ends up wrecking his own Supra...post the pic guys.  |
08-31-07, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by oz  I am not impressed... | yeah, that was clear in the first post.  |
08-31-07, 01:43 PM
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It's not for everyone, like I personally cannot stand roundy round racing, even though I did it years ago. To say it takes no skill, now that shows you have never tried it or done it. There is more to it then spinning tires and turning.
Also to note, the thing with Hogans kid, he has wrecked, and even wrecked the Supra yes, but to think he cannot drive because of it? How many of you at 17 were pro drivers in ANY sport? I am pretty sure most 17 year olds with 800 hp cars end up wrecking, it's the nature of the beast. Wet road, 800 hp, 17 years old will not usually end well. Not saying anything to get him off what he did, he was 100% wrong, and dumb, I just think even though he messed up, he is probably a decent driver, just cocky with too much power! |
08-31-07, 01:59 PM
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A drift cars setup is actually close to what a road race car with the same stuff underneath it would be iirc. Just more swaybar stiffness in the back. |
08-31-07, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 90_Red_LX A drift cars setup is actually close to what a road race car with the same stuff underneath it would be iirc. Just more swaybar stiffness in the back. | Not quite. Road race cars are meant to actually grip. A drift car is stiffer than hell front and back and has basicly no suspension travel. I've seen a few local *** cars that are set up for drifting try and make it around the road course and they are bouncing all over the place because their suspension is retarded.
Drifting is fun to do once in a while, but I couldn't justify spending loads of money to dedicate my car to it. I want mine to take the corners fast  |
08-31-07, 02:50 PM
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Since I don't enjoy ballet I guess it makes sense that I don't enjoy drifting...
If it's true what powerjon says and scoring involves 'showmanship', I have to add drifting to the list of 'non-sports' sports... ice skating, synchronized swimming, gymnastics, diving, drifting...
Do they get extra points for fart tips, big wings and wearing puffy shirts? |
08-31-07, 03:20 PM
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If you ask me, drag racing isn't a sport, yet I do it all the time... I wouldn't mind drifting or trying it out! |
08-31-07, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by oz Since I don't enjoy ballet I guess it makes sense that I don't enjoy drifting...
If it's true what powerjon says and scoring involves 'showmanship', I have to add drifting to the list of 'non-sports' sports... ice skating, synchronized swimming, gymnastics, diving, drifting...
Do they get extra points for fart tips, big wings and wearing puffy shirts? | you forgot emo haircuts |
08-31-07, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Strype i heard it described here once as the "ballet of racing" | Last I checked ballet is GHEY |
08-31-07, 03:23 PM
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Its counter productive, every other aspect of car tuning and racing is to get and hold traction! |
08-31-07, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flavadave4 Last I checked ballet is GHEY |  That's it- Was that you? |
08-31-07, 03:47 PM
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I think it is just stupid, but to each's own. |
08-31-07, 04:00 PM
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i thought it was gay until my friend whos really into drifting took me for a ride going sideways between parked cars and stuff, its DEFINITLY a lot of fun. |
08-31-07, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by oz I have been seeing these NOPI shows on SpeedChannel that feature drifting.
From what I can see, it appears that these people have spent large sums of money to make a perfectly good car corner poorly. If you live in the north, we get to do this every winter in the K-Mart parking lot without spending wads of cash... it's called 'doing doughnuts'. Many of us are also familiar with Outlaw racing on dirt. In both cases, the racing surface is slick but the car is made to grip and corner as well as possible.
Am I missing something or would it not be faster to get around the course in a car that was set up properly and did not constantly spin the rear tires?
Another question, how is this drifting competition judged? Does quantity, color, and smell, of the tire smoke count for something... If there are 'style' points given (like figure skating, synchronized swimming, or any other weenie sport, etc...) then it's not really a sport, is it?
Can someone please explain. |
C;mon, you've never played racing video games and powerslided through the turns?? How about on a hot wheels car or a bicycle when you try to kick the rear out in the turn??
I remember playing Gran Tourismo and racing around the course trying to hold the longest powerslides through the turns. Yes i know it's not the best way around the track, but it takes a hell of a lot of skill to kick the rear out at 60MPH and hold it for 180 degrees. If you don't think so, next time you are out for a drive, try it.
Powersliding has always been fun. It's name has been changed to drifting and the import guys all embrace it, but it does take some skill to accomplish a nice hanging drift through a long turn
because the majority of drifters are import lovers/ricers, us Mustangers tend to look at drifting as gay. It's just another form of competitive driving.
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08-31-07, 05:28 PM
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drifting is gay import crap!
its fun ive done some drifts in my truck in the rain. lol
its really nothing new though. definately not brought from overseas. we've been sliding around **** here in the states since the 50's |
08-31-07, 06:13 PM
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I've been drifting all my life, it's called growing up at the end of a long, winding dirt road! Dukes of Hazzard FTW! |
09-01-07, 12:52 AM
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Its just Gross Oversteering! |
09-01-07, 10:53 AM
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Good to see people are open to all kinds of car racing and competition... 
I personally wouldn't mind drifting and trying it out some. Most Mustang owners go fast in a straight line for 8-15 seconds, and it gives a huge rush. Imagine being in front of thousands of people as you try and drive a car sideways in a controlled manner. The rush you would get from that, has to trump drag racing! |
09-01-07, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 25thmustang Good to see people are open to all kinds of car racing and competition...
I personally wouldn't mind drifting and trying it out some. Most Mustang owners go fast in a straight line for 8-15 seconds, and it gives a huge rush. Imagine being in front of thousands of people as you try and drive a car sideways in a controlled manner. The rush you would get from that, has to trump drag racing! | I agree, although its not built for pure grip I'd love to try drifting. I wouldnt do it in my stang because I know I'd mess the car up, but I'd love to build a nissan 240sx or something similar/cheap to try drifting some day. I think it would be a ton of fun, I love sliding the car around and I have to admit, it is quite difficult to hold long drifts so I have a lot of respect for pro drifters. I dont see what all you guys are criticizing it for... asking the purpose is like saying "What the hell is the purpose of a burnout... all you do is melt your tires and choke on the smoke..." ITS FUN, THATS THE PURPOSE.
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