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06-10-08, 05:05 AM
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06-10-08, 05:17 AM
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Congratulations on the buy!
It seems to be a awesome setup.  |
06-16-08, 02:41 PM
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06-16-08, 05:55 PM
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Nice numbers....most twin screw set ups I've seen aren't even making that kind of power. Wonder if it's the TorkTech kit or something he custom fabbed? |
06-16-08, 07:12 PM
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It is the TTI tuner kit. No inj. MAF or pumps. |
06-16-08, 07:50 PM
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did we ever get any dyno #'s on the TT inlet and TB with the m90??? |
06-16-08, 07:56 PM
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I dunno, there is a lack of info in that post.
Like where it was dyno'ed, if the numbers are corrected, ported sc or not or
Other mods to the car.
I have trouble believing a 2v car, with less boost, makes more hp than an 4v 03 cobra.
Figure a ported eaton on an 03 cobra with 16lbs of boost makes 520hp. Non ported makes a maximum of 490rwhp.
And most twin screws could surpass 600rwhp, the problem is that it requires a built shortblock, so most guys keep them in the mid to high 500's on an 03 cobra, and low 400's on stock 2v. |
06-17-08, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RedS281GT  Hey guys! Didn't have a huge update to post, but wanted to let everyone know that I finally have enough money to get my fuel pump and injectors so I can head up to Dynospeed. I'm having troube finding the best place to get 42# injectors. $329 is the best i've seen so far. If anyone has a suggestion on where to get them, let me know. I'll be shooting for having everything in this week and heading up to Memphis next week! Thanks for the help!
00 GT vert
Series II S/C
BBK long tubes & o/r x-pipe, pro 5.0, 3:55's, TT inlet, cobra TB, 66mm pulley,
90mm TB, Chicane intercooler, hand ported lower intake, SCT | http://www.dallasmustang.com/page/pr...p=12&family=74 http://www.coolblueperformance.com/i...S&Category=102 http://www.joeblowracing.com/index.p...6ca67a8775fd2c
thats all I found... I'll ask my buddy at HPP performance how much he can get them for.  |
06-17-08, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000xp8 And most twin screws could surpass 600rwhp, the problem is that it requires a built shortblock, so most guys keep them in the mid to high 500's on an 03 cobra, and low 400's on stock 2v. | The bigger ones might be able to do it, but anything under an old 2.2L autorotor hasn't got a chance…at least not on any street driven small displacement mod motor running anything close to pump gas. Sure, I've seen Kenne Bell claim 500+rwhp @ 14psi out of the 1.7L/2.1L with a stock 2V, but what they neglect to tell you is that they're running race gas, full exhaust and intake mods as well as an insane amount of timing to make them look like hero's on the dyno. I've seen a bolt on 1.7L with the 14psi pulley only put out about 440rwhp on the rollers. Hell, 90% of the 9psi kits I've seen installed won't even break 400rwhp…some of them are down from that figure as much as 35rwhp. Not bad numbers mind you, but not nearly as impressive as they're made to sound in the advertisement.....so be weary of these so called "big power claims" certain companies profess out of their twin screw kits. That Eaton M112 on that kid does a pretty damn good job IMO. Especially considering the kit makes all the power of the equivalent twin screw kit from Kenne Bell (that boast an even larger displacement huffer I might add) for about 2/3 the price.  |
06-17-08, 08:25 AM
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Brian, i never said the m112 doesn't do a good job, it just doesn't do nearly as much as a modern twin screw intercooled kit.
I'd still like to see how it's explained how that guys m112 eaton setup exceeds the power output of an 03/04 cobra and it's making less boost. Stroker?Cnc heads and cams?
The numbers really don't add up, so i'm curious to see how it got it that way.
Those old SC's that lack potential are pretty much gone, nobody buys any of the first gen kits anymore.
I get to see anything and everything put on the dyno at my buddies shop. Seems it comes in trends, for a while it was KB's, then it was saleen 3v kits, and now it's whipples. All of which if pullied right easily exceed 500rwhp. |
06-17-08, 02:29 PM
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so still no dyno numbers on the original thread?!?!?
not that the argument is not interesting... but I have the m90 on my Saleen and I would like to know if its worth the bucks. |
06-18-08, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RedS281GT Sorry for the long post. BTW: Thanks, but no, it not a real Saleen. It's not that f#@*in F-word either. Everything on the car is real and I installed it myself. I have some pics of it on the "post pics" thread. Didn't mean to vent.
| It's the age old argument, but Don't Apologize, I am right there with you. No our cars do not have a # BUT every stinking thing on them is made by Saleen. |
06-18-08, 04:02 PM
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Sorry guys, money has been a little tight as of late. I do finally have the funds to get up to Dynospeed so I will have some numbers soon. I'm going to try and set up an appointment for early next week!
Thanks pbm.cc for the links! I too am hoping it was worth the money! 
Mstng2, thanks! I just wish more felt the same way! 00 GT vert
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BBK long tubes & o/r x-pipe, pro 5.0, 3:55's, TT inlet, cobra TB, 66mm pulley,
90mm TB, Chicane intercooler, hand ported lower intake, SCT |
06-19-08, 11:36 AM
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Truley what we have are un-numbered Saleens, can anyone honestly say a car with all parts genuine Saleen is not a Saleen? It is, however it is not build by Saleen and does not have a stamp of authentication in the form of a Number. |
06-19-08, 06:15 PM
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JMS (Johnson Motor Sports) in MS did a TTI S/C kit on a bone stock 2000 Auto. At 7-7.5 pounds it made 390 at the tire. They didn't want to push a stock block/rods/pistons any higher. |
06-19-08, 11:29 PM
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quick question: Does a S4 blower fit on the lower intake of the S2 blower? |
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06-20-08, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm.cc quick question: Does a S4 blower fit on the lower intake of the S2 blower? | No, the Series II is an Eaton MP90. The Series IV is a Lysholm 2300AX (renamed the 140AX). They're not even in the same league. let alone the same dimesions. Quote:
Originally Posted by pbm.cc | Are you stuck on the Saleen? If so, i'd say you're SOL. If it says Saleen (or Roush for that matter) on the front of it, count on it being about 35% more expensive than anyplace else. If not, the Tork Tech with the TVS 1900 will outperform that set up for a lot less. Hell, even the M112 would probably match its performance since it utilizes a better manifold and heavier duty intercooler core. |
06-20-08, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearbanger 101 No, the Series II is an Eaton MP90. The Series IV is a Lysholm 2300AX (renamed the 140AX). They're not even in the same league. let alone the same dimesions.
Are you stuck on the Saleen? If so, i'd say you're SOL. If it says Saleen (or Roush for that matter) on the front of it, count on it being about 35% more expensive than anyplace else. If not, the Tork Tech with the TVS 1900 will outperform that set up for a lot less. Hell, even the M112 would probably match its performance since it utilizes a better manifold and heavier duty intercooler core. | well I wanted to have the somewhat original look as its a real Saleen. But I do like the KB2.6l alot (will I need a bigger hood?).
I noticed that on ebay I can find a 03-04 M112 dirt cheap! is that the same as the TT kit? |
06-20-08, 07:25 PM
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No, the older 03-04 cobra was an M112. but Tork Tech uses the new Magnuson/Eaton rotor case combination (Generation 5). The 112 is strictly a designation of the blower size. The Gen. 5 is a 3 lobe rotor, 60 degree helix. It made an additional 45-50 horse over the old style. The Tork Tech does fit under the Saleen hood with its own 8 rib belt drive system.
There were several companies working on manifolds to adapt a 03-04 blower on a GT, but both have given up from what I understand. The problem was trying to make boost with the stock 6 inch lower pulley, running off the stock accessory belt. You can't make the lower pulley any larger, without going to a secondary larger pulley like on the cobra's, Supercoupes and Lightnings. You were limited to about 7-8 pounds evn with a 2.8 upper. |
06-20-08, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rfedd There were several companies working on manifolds to adapt a 03-04 blower on a GT, but both have given up from what I understand. The problem was trying to make boost with the stock 6 inch lower pulley, running off the stock accessory belt. You can't make the lower pulley any larger, without going to a secondary larger pulley like on the cobra's, Supercoupes and Lightnings. You were limited to about 7-8 pounds evn with a 2.8 upper. | I beleive Torque Tech has that covered as well.... http://www.torktech.com/index.asp?Pa...PROD&ProdID=16 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbm.cc
quick question: Does a S4 blower fit on the lower intake of the S2 blower?
No, the Series II is an Eaton MP90. The Series IV is a Lysholm 2300AX (renamed the 140AX). They're not even in the same league. let alone the same dimesions.
| I think the Lysholm (Whipple) 2300AX is the 2.3L Saleen Series V that was on the 2002 - 2004 Extremes. The Series IV's were 1600AX's or 1.6L Whipples. |
06-25-08, 01:56 PM
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Just a quick update! I just scheduled an appointment with Dynospeed for 8:00 am on Thursday, July 3rd! They've been booked up for a while now.
There's been a lot of great post on this thread! Thanks guys! 00 GT vert
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BBK long tubes & o/r x-pipe, pro 5.0, 3:55's, TT inlet, cobra TB, 66mm pulley,
90mm TB, Chicane intercooler, hand ported lower intake, SCT |
06-25-08, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mills281e I think the Lysholm (Whipple) 2300AX is the 2.3L Saleen Series V that was on the 2002 - 2004 Extremes. The Series IV's were 1600AX's or 1.6L Whipples. | Actually, I'm quite sure they were both 2.3L compressors. The only difference between the two being an inlet and case revision to the Series V if memory serves? | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
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