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Old 07-23-09, 07:31 AM
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+1, all day I've been waiting for the pics with black paint
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Old 07-23-09, 10:38 AM
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Sorry, sorry. Got them uploaded, then it got real crazy around here. Scrambling for parts for 5 cars that came in yesterday.

So what do you think of the colors ?


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Old 07-23-09, 08:59 PM
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Holy Mona Lisa Batman! That is absolutely jaw dropping B-E-A-U-T-Y-F-U-L!
Two thumbs way the heck up!

I was never a fan of two tone paints, but this is the second car I've seen that looks awesome. And the color choice and depth of color on this, is freakin' stunning. Wow! What an awesome job!
You've really stepped up the bar on this build. Now the pressure is on to make the whole car this stunning!
Keep up the great work.
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Old 07-23-09, 09:09 PM
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AWESOME, paint scheme, I look forward to seeing the car assembled.
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Old 07-24-09, 04:59 AM
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what rear breakes are those?
This looks awesome!!!!
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Old 07-24-09, 11:24 AM
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Now the pressure is on to make the whole car this stunning!
I know.
The rear are cobra brakes.Sorry if I missed that twuxtop

Paint was all the owners idea. But now says he may be afraid to race it lol
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Old 08-04-09, 11:47 AM
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Dang, that's freaking nice.
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Old 08-04-09, 12:32 PM
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Really digging the colors. Cant wait till its all together.
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Old 08-04-09, 03:43 PM
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Ummm WOW!! is really all I can say to that one!
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Old 09-03-09, 10:25 AM
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Been a while. Have me head buried in it right now. Some pics of some progress. Engine and trans in, running the EFI now and going to wire the dash soon for the new gauges.

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Old 09-03-09, 03:09 PM
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Old 09-03-09, 09:59 PM
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What engine management system will be going on this car? Car looks great so far, thanks for the progress updates, exciting build.
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Old 09-04-09, 08:07 AM
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Been a while. Have me head buried in it right now. Some pics of some progress. Engine and trans in, running the EFI now and going to wire the dash soon for the new gauges.

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Would it be possible for you to post more pictures of the AJE K-member installation, including the suspension?
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Old 09-04-09, 10:18 AM
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What engine management system will be going on this car? Car looks great so far, thanks for the progress updates, exciting build.
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Old 10-25-09, 11:19 AM
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Been working on it I swear. Custom Alt bracket to mount the Alt high and driver side is done and out for anodizing along with some other things. Almost done in the engine bay. When done, gotta pull the kit back off to finish the wrap and pain the DP's and what not, then glue it on permanently. The exh is done out to the mufflers also, along with fuel mostly run, and tank sumped.

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Old 10-25-09, 11:55 AM
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Looking good. What valve covers are you using? Are you using a rocker stud girdle?
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Old 10-26-09, 01:50 AM
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Loving it! Getting some great ideas for a future project down the road.
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Old 10-26-09, 12:13 PM
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Nah, no stud girdle. Small hyd cam. Only about 135 on the seat. The valve covers are actually the fabricated sweet metal from pro-comp
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Old 10-27-09, 05:17 AM
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Man, you do such awesome work--I always look forward to your posts in this thread!

Please tell me that the export brace you have IS NOT the one with the 16-gauge sheetmetal for the shock towers . . . the people who came up with that design just plain don't get it--it has to have STRENGTH there, or it won't keep the shock towers in place!

I have one of those, and I'm going to replace the sheetmetal parts with 1/4" steel plates and re-weld the tubes on. Same for the firewall part, though I'll probably use 1/8" thick angle iron there . . .

Anyway, awesome job to this point--post the pics of the other stuff you've been working on, you KNOW we all wanna see them . . .

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Old 10-27-09, 08:52 AM
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That looks like some pretty thin metal that is bolted to the shock towers--do you think it will be strong enough to do the job of keeping the towers in place?

I have an export brace from a no-name manufactuer that is almost identical to this one, but the plates at the rear and on the shock towers are probably either 18-ga or at best, 16-ga steel; I'm going to redo them with 1/4" flat stock so that they'll actually keep those shock towers where they're supposed to be before trying to install it onto mine . . .

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Ohhh, god no. It's not that thin. If it was, It woulda been thrown away lol. When the engine comes back out it will get a little more bracing on that piece, and the underside of the pinch welds on that cowl.

he answered that already didn't he?
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Old 10-27-09, 10:38 AM
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underside of cowl pinch weld bracing for export brace

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"Originally Posted by 10secgoal
Ohhh, god no. It's not that thin. If it was, It woulda been thrown away lol. When the engine comes back out it will get a little more bracing on that piece, and the underside of the pinch welds on that cowl."


That bit is ridiculously thin. You could argue that the export brace keeps the shock towers a given distance from the cowl lip - it's unlikely that you'll be able to pull out those holes in that cowl lip - but it offers almost nothing in vertical hold. Those shock towers are free to move up and down with the stock setup.

I've seen SN65's "Fire and Ice" builds where it looked like he welded a 1x1 bar underneath the lip - are you planning on doing something like that? I would think a flat steel bar might be enough but the 1x1 bar would be stiffer vertically.
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Old 10-27-09, 10:56 AM
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I think the plates on the towers where 3/16 ? And I want to say the tubing was about 16-14 ga. And that would be .065 and up. Tubing is pretty strong in it's thinnest form. I think its similar gauging is safe and legal for cages, it wouldn't be too thin for export bracing. But yeah, they aren't going to add much for vertical load. No 1x1 on this car. She's got all the mods she is getting.
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Old 10-28-09, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, you've got to call it a day sometime . . .

and anything more than what you've already done is probably overkill. Part of me wishes there were more room to send a tube down from either midway through the "arm" of an export brace or at a point very close to the shock tower down to a point on the front subframe right at the firewall to really help control vertical movement of the shock tower, but then you're also just sending the load further down the frame and making the whole front subframe pivot up when there's a bump.

It's better to just move the engine to the backseat and run two braces diagonally down to the opposite subframe rail on each side. Then just find a wrecked Pantera and lift the drivetrain from that, lol. Obviously, this bracing thing can get out of hand . . .
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Old 10-28-09, 09:15 PM
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Yeh, gets to a point where the effect results in minimal gain. This car should be stiff enough to keep the car from killing itself, and ride smoothly. One of the best things I did was pout a cage in my car. Huge difference. Drove so much better, without any of the bracing this on has.
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Old 10-29-09, 03:20 AM
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I've driven tube chassis cars incl. NASCARs (before SAMECAR took over!), fully welded & subframed historic racing Mustangs with full cages etc. They handle extremely predictable without any flex into the corners but they are racecars! My thinking is you'd get a jarring, rumbling and all around uncomfortable ride if we went all the way...
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