[Gearbanger 101]

Originally Posted by danongentry

I'm all for backing the Israelis, BUT I'm pretty sure Bush is the dumbass people see him as. Being right on one thing doesn't redeem a lifetime of stupid. People that win a gold medal in the Special Olympics are still retarded.

[Strype]

Originally Posted by danongentry

I'm all for backing the Israelis, BUT I'm pretty sure Bush is the dumbass people see him as. Being right on one thing doesn't redeem a lifetime of stupid. People that win a gold medal in the Special Olympics are still retarded.

Watch them laugh, whatch them drool, watch them fall into the pool- That's diving, at the special olympics.

[1992 2.3LX]

I too find it quite funny that people think Bush is stupid.

Let's see here he graduated from Yale, how many people hear can tout that claim???

He got elected President TWICE!!!!!!

He has made millions in the oil industry.

Yeah I guess you folks are right he's a dumbass

[Gearbanger 101]

Originally Posted by 1992 2.3LX

I too find it quite funny that people think Bush is stupid.

Originally Posted by 1992 2.3LX

Let's see here he graduated from Yale, how many people hear can tout that claim???

Graduated from Yale?!? Do you honestly think him going to Yale had anything to do with his intelligence? Hell, the only reason he got into Yale in the first place was because of his fathers influence. Graduating from an Ivy League school isn't the tough part...it's getting into one in the first place.

Originally Posted by 1992 2.3LX

He got elected President TWICE!!!!!!

The only people I consider dumber than Bush, are the ones who voted for him the second time around. How does it go? Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me! If anything, he's got great representation and an outstanding campaign team.

Originally Posted by 1992 2.3LX

He has made millions in the oil industry.

Are you referring to the industry in which he ruined two oil companies (even with the help of his dad and his buddies keeping him afloat) before going tits up?

For the record, I don't consider him an "idiot" in the traditional sense. But he's not a great speaker, very often makes rash decisions without thinking them through, he has a reckless attitude towards politics and a dangerous arrogance about him that's gotten him and as a result America into trouble on many an occasion.

[danongentry]

He really only got elected once....and even that was questionable. His first term came as an appointment by the Supreme Court.

Let's face it, everything he's touched has turned to ****.

[90mustangGT]

Originally Posted by Gearbanger 101

The only people I consider dumber than Bush, are the ones who voted for him the second time around. How does it go? Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me! If anything, he's got great representation and an outstanding campaign team..

Did you check out the alternative... John Kerry. When it comes down to an election, the people that should be running this country don't even want to run, and we are forced to pick the lesser of two evils, and Kerry, as well as Gore are definatly worse.

[Red_LX]

Originally Posted by mixedbreed02gt

as smart as the Arab people are, when it comes to education, I find it really hard to believe they can get their a$$e$ kicked continuously by the Israeli's, yet they continue to get back up come back for another bloody nose, broken jaw, and 2 black eyes.

At what point do you say this is futile, let's just all get along and share?????

stupid dumb ****s.

Religion makes people do some really crazy, stupid crap.

[Strype]

Originally Posted by 90mustangGT

Did you check out the alternative... John Kerry. When it comes down to an election, the people that should be running this country don't even want to run, and we are forced to pick the lesser of two evils, and Kerry, as well as Gore are definatly worse.

F'n A right.


Look at what we got this year for instance.


Obama the great appeaser is a FRESHMAN Senator and a Liberal who wants to help the middle class and the poor- Which I'm all for- but he also has a history of wanting to take our God given rights away by passing laws, and more laws, and then some more laws. That is the liberal in him. You see he has to be able to make a "Change" and if he isn't passing stupid laws then he's not making "change".

Then there is McCain. Who just yesterday I heard say "The economy is in great shape."

WTF? The economy IS geared toward international trade right now and for big business, not for Strype, PinStrype and Strypette. Gas might hit $5 per gallon, EVERYTHING has gone up whether it's groceries, McDonalds meals, etc... And I'm supposed to sit there and take a slap in the face like that at the dinner table eating a TV dinner that 3 years ago cost $2.50 and I just paid $4 for it? Give me a break.


So WTF is John Q. Public supposed to do? I'm a fairly moral person so usually I go for the most moral candidate, i.e. Abortion.

But I'm pissed off at this country.


1) Social Security was never meant for EVERYONE to benefit from. The age is set at 65 and needs to be raised.

2) Jesus H. Christ. Guns do not kill people. People do. Leave my 19 round clips and pistols alone. Instead focus on the economic reasons that people murder others. Something you can change.

There are 3 reasons to murder according to many Psychologists (as seen on "Bullchit"):
a) Passion- I walked in on my love with another man, or she's leaving
b) Money- I was hired to do so or I will reap the benefits from this guy's stolen wallet
c) Thrill- Jeff Dauhmer etc...

Taking away any gun won't help these reasons.

3) The War in Iraq.

Dear folks,
90% of people were behind Bush to go after terrorists. Whether you believe Iraq was a correct decision or not, can not change the fact that we've screwed it up and we should leave it better than we found it. Either stay or let the UN do something and spend other countries' money.



And that's the tip of the iceburg. I need to get back to work.

[Gearbanger 101]

Originally Posted by 90mustangGT

When it comes down to an election, the people that should be running this country don't even want to run, and we are forced to pick the lesser of two evils, and Kerry, as well as Gore are definatly worse.

I guess we'll never know. To be honest, I kinda liked John Kerry as a candidate at the time. It could be worse....look what you guys are having to deal with this time around.

[danongentry]

Bush was the lesser of the two evils? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Did the definition of evil change while I was in Afghanistan or Iraq?

And if experience is Obama's biggest flaw, consider that the Bush administration was filled with tons of experienced people and we see how wonderfully that worked out.

[LaserSVT]

I vote for Strype as president

[Darkwriter77]

Fuggit. We're all gonna die. Someone pass the popcorn.

[LaserSVT]

Originally Posted by Darkwriter77

Fuggit. We're all gonna die. Someone pass the popcorn.

[Strype]

Originally Posted by LaserSVT

I vote for Strype as president

I got a vote!

[Strype]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369465,00.html

American military officials say Israel launched a major military exercise that appeared to be aimed in part at demonstrating its ability to stage an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

Israel's military refused to publicly confirm or deny whether the exercise was a rehearsal for a potential bombing attack. But a senior Israeli air force official close to the operation said helicopters were used in the exercise to practice in the event of a downed plane.

Pentagon officials said Israel sent dozens of aircraft on the large-scale mission in the eastern Mediterranean in early June.

One defense official said the exercise could be taken as a show of force to Iran and a demonstration to the world that Israel is serious about the need to challenge the country's nuclear program — and might be prepared to do so militarily.

"They have been conducting some large-scale exercises — they live in a tough neighborhood," one U.S. official said, though he offered no other recent examples.

The Jerusalem Post reported that a senior cleric in Iran warned Israel, in response to the drill, that it would react to such an attack with a "strong blow."

But one senior Israeli air force source with knowledge of the exercise said the mission, flown by F-15s and F-16s, was meant to test their refueling capabilities and plan in the event of a downed plane — and that it occurred in mid-May, not June.

The source said the air force got permission from the countries along the Mediterranean to fly the mission. The Israeli air force needed permission to conduct the exercise from all the countries whose air space was entered and even to fly in international air space, according to the official. The Israeli planes flew above civilian air space to avoid disrupting any passenger jets.

The source said Israel is preparing for all eventualities with regard to Iran.

The New York Times first reported Friday that more than 100 Israeli fighter jets took part in the maneuvers over the eastern Mediterranean and Greece. Citing undisclosed American officials, it said the exercise appeared to be an effort to focus on long-range strikes.

The aircraft used in the drill flew a distance of about 900 miles — similar to the distance between Israel and uranium enrichment facilities at Natanz, the officials said.

"They wanted us to know, they wanted the Europeans to know and they wanted the Iranians to know," the Pentagon official told the Times. "There's a lot of signaling going on at different levels."

[hungrymonkey]

If the FBI/CIA knew what it was doing. Then they would save the cheer leader and save the world.

[TheRican]

OH boy, what are the requirements to get out of the draft again?

[jikelly]

Originally Posted by 1992 2.3LX

I too find it quite funny that people think Bush is stupid.

Let's see here he graduated from Yale, how many people hear can tout that claim???

He got elected President TWICE!!!!!!

He has made millions in the oil industry.

Yeah I guess you folks are right he's a dumbass

Right, we are the dummies for reelecting him.

[jikelly]

Originally Posted by Strype

F'n A right.
Then there is McCain. Who just yesterday I heard say "The economy is in great shape."

What do you expect him to do? His party believes in no regulation of the free market system. If you follow that thinking it means that you, the average citizen, have to accept whatever poop comes down the pipeline. You don't get to decide when you will get a raise, or what you will pay for stuff. Somebody in a big office does that. It's got to be that way, otherwise we'd all suffer.

[jikelly]

Originally Posted by Strype

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369465,00.html

Iran might be in trouble.

Do you think that Israel would be right to attack them if they continue to develop their nuclear weapons program?

[Strype]

Originally Posted by jikelly

Iran might be in trouble.

Do you think that Israel would be right to attack them if they continue to develop their nuclear weapons program?

Were we not catching hell from the world I believe we would have already done it. The U.S. is most DEFINATELY happy about this.

Personally tho? Yea. The only time you have to worry about nukes is when somebody is trying to hide them.

[Strype]

Originally Posted by TheRican

OH boy, what are the requirements to get out of the draft again?

Being teh openly ghey

[Strype]

Originally Posted by jikelly

What do you expect him to do? His party believes in no regulation of the free market system. If you follow that thinking it means that you, the average citizen, have to accept whatever poop comes down the pipeline. You don't get to decide when you will get a raise, or what you will pay for stuff. Somebody in a big office does that. It's got to be that way, otherwise we'd all suffer.

I now see that point. We need SOME regulation.

[DBMSTNG]

Originally Posted by jikelly

Do you think that Israel would be right to attack them if they continue to develop their nuclear weapons program?

abso-f'n-lutely!

Iran hasn't hid the fact that they want to "wipe Israel off the face of the Earth"

if someone told you they were going to buy a gun and shoot you, then walked into a gun store, wouldn't you stop him before he bought the gun? i sure as hell would.

[Darkwriter77]

Iran is kind of like a bratty kid that will keep progressively pushing his luck until someone finally smacks him in the mouth, then he'll bawl and wail for a little bit before shutting up for awhile ... and then he starts getting brave/stupid and starting the process over again. Some kids like this never learn, no matter how often/hard you whoop 'em.

If this were strictly a political and/or financial motivation for Iran, it wouldn't take as much to knock their peter in the sand. For example, take Khadaffi (sp?) from Labia ... er, I mean Lybia, back in the 80's. He talked a big game, he stirred up some crap ... and then we went over there, bombed the poopie-doo out of them, damn near got the big guy, himself, and we haven't heard diddly-squat out of him ever since then. He was trying to make a big name for himself, he got stepped on (HARD), and now he's a chump.

However, Iran isn't motivated exclusively by financial or political greed. They're motivated by religion, which history has shown to be one of the most destructive, relentless, blind motivators of humanity. These guys don't just want to take over Israel; they want to vaporize it, and all of its people ... not because of what they have or what they do, but because Allah said so. When you have a large, wealthy country led by people who take orders from homicidal dudes that claim to get their orders from deities that only they can hear, you've got a serious problem. (Then again, the same thing could possibly be said about Israel. )

You can't scare these people with destruction, because to them, with death comes rewards ... and if you take some of your enemies with you, you get major bonus points. Y'know ... stuff that pretty much goes against the grain of what most folks in the world would consider sane. These are the same kind of people that drink the special Kool-Aid because God told this one dude to tell everyone else to, or wash some sleeping pills down with vodka so they can hitch a ride on the UFO behind the comet ... except these folks wanna force the special Kool-Aid or vodka and sleeping pills on everyone else that doesn't believe in the same God/UFO that they do. You can't reason with these nutjobs. They "KNOW" they're right. Allah said so. It's right here in this book, see? And the book was written by a dude that, like, talked with Allah directly ... 'cause he was special. Or something. And stuff. Um, yeah. (Hmmm ... sounds a little like Christianity, too ... and Mormonism ... hmmm ... seeing a trend here... )

There's two ways of dealing with these kinds of people (as far as I know): rendering them harmless, either by keeping them restrained or keeping their grubby mitts off any kinds of weapons ... or killing them.

As an alternative to committing genocide and killing everyone in Iran, I suppose we could keep them placid by flying large planes over Iran and spraying an aerosol version of Thorazine if we took out their air force and anti-aircraft weapons. Or maybe flooding their country with shipments of all the marijuana, heroin, and other "downer" drugs that the DEA and FBI confiscate on a daily basis. Maybe beam a constant video feed of animal porn that overrides their local broadcasts and Internet websites. Anything to keep their hands off their guns and their minds off of killing.

I'm not an atheist or an agnostic dude. I don't have a problem with religion, per se. I just don't have any faith in people. And anyone who claims to talk to the invisible dude in the sky that only he/she can see or hear, and they also want to have (or already has) access to nuclear weapons-grade materials ... well, those kinda folk give me the heebie-jeebies, to say the least.