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08-28-08, 08:46 AM
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I covered my face with the "threw a rod" post.... don't do that to me!
What's up with the strange stroke? Nascar crank? What about the rods? Strange rod length... Trying to do a long-rod setup or did you just get a good deal on them?
What bore and compression? What rpm are you running it too. Those heads and intake will want north of 7000 rpm.... maybe even up to 8k. What cams specs did you go with?
If it's leaking oil, wouldn't it pretty much have to be coming from the lower intake seal since you had a dual-plane on the dyno?
Chris
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08-28-08, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FastDriver  I covered my face with the "threw a rod" post.... don't do that to me!
What's up with the strange stroke? Nascar crank? What about the rods? Strange rod length... Trying to do a long-rod setup or did you just get a good deal on them?
| nah wasnt my ideal setup, but i got a pretty sweet deal out of it, and the stuff is practically bomb proof, and i bought it thinking that is was 9.7:1 cr but it turned out to be 10.7:1. originally i was gonna do a turbo or an F1R procharger, but whenever i get the cash i'm just gonna through a couple of stages of juice on it. Quote:
Originally Posted by FastDriver I covered my face with the "threw a rod" post.... don't do that to me!
What bore and compression? What rpm are you running it too. Those heads and intake will want north of 7000 rpm.... maybe even up to 8k. What cams specs did you go with?
| i put a hydraulic roller in it, gonna be revving it to 6500 max, i may switch to a solid cam, with a solid cam the motor would peak around 7500 with my current setup. i also had to take the box intake off and put a regular R upper with a 90mm TB opening. and the cam is a comp 282xr i believe. Quote:
Originally Posted by FastDriver
If it's leaking oil, wouldn't it pretty much have to be coming from the lower intake seal since you had a dual-plane on the dyno?
| this is kind of a long story but originally i had the car together last sunday, i fired it up and set the timing and drove it last monday, it was leaking coolant and oil out of the upper intake. I called PK machine(the shop that dynoed the motor, Paul best guy around if you need a moor built), and Paul told me that he usually has to mill .060'' off of each side of the R intake to get it to align correctly with the water jackets.
So i milled the intake and when i fired the car up last night and i tried to drive it there was some kind of fliud leaking on the headers and smoking like a mofo. i thought it was oil from mabye the intake again, but it was too dark to see anything, i checked it out today after work and its just the power steering rack leaking. i also drained the oil to be positive that the water jackets on the intake were sealed. so basically its been a pretty frustrating week wiith the car  |
08-28-08, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ~FrankenStang~ This is a progress thread. Let's keep it on topic, please. | i didn't know we had a talk nazi cracking the whip on progress threads these days... here is some progress for ya
K- member completed 
Front suspension setup, even with the springs adjusted all the way down the car isnt THAT low, not what i expected but im happy with the stance, it tucks the fronts nicely 
here is the motor getting ready on the dyno 
Kind of hard to see, but here is the lifter valley contaminated with coolant 
And here is the motor, completely assembled 
Also some video, the still have to be processed as i just uploaded them, so be patient
Motor idling on dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6b6qK0YGU
Motor on dyno, pulling to 6800, with a little valve float after 6500 YouTube - 345 small block ford on the dyno
Startup and revving to about 5k YouTube - 345 cubic inch small block ford idle and rev. |
08-30-08, 01:43 PM
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So what were the dyno numbers? Great progress, good luck with the rest of the build! |
08-30-08, 02:20 PM
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that thing sounds pretty strong |
10-11-08, 06:41 PM
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ok so its been a while since i updated this...
I put a digital 6 box in the car, and ditched the power steering for a manual rack, which were two things that are worth their weight in gold in my opinion. The car now weighs 2960 without me in it
the car absolutely rediculous on the street, so much fun to drive, and i will say that this motor is stronger and going to be faster than my 302/novi2000 setup(that made 480 RWHP). it wont make as much peak power but it makes up for it everywhere else. 
i also dynoed the car last night, it was kind of a rollercoaster of a night, first pull made good power, then one of the straps BROKE... thank god for chalk blocks, then it made MORE power, but the timing wasnt consistent, so we pulled the dist. and found that the cam gear was eating the distributor gear and im glad we caught it before all hell broke loose in the oil pan... so im gonna buy a billet piece and see what the car will really do with some tuning.
All numbers are with the car wanting more timing and the A/F at 10.5-10.9 at WOT.
Like my tuner said "THIS CAR IS GONNA SCREWW" haha i can wait to drive it |
10-11-08, 07:01 PM
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10-11-08, 07:15 PM
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I thought you are supposed to use bronze or composit gears with the hardened cam? But yeah, good thing you caught that. They will eat thoes cast gears in no time  |
10-11-08, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LaserSVT I thought you are supposed to use bronze or composit gears with the hardened cam? But yeah, good thing you caught that. They will eat thoes cast gears in no time |
Yea it was one of those little details i missed and it would have been a big deal if i didnt find it... they also make a phenolic gear that im going to look into, i will be calling comp cams first thing monday to find out which gear they recommend |
10-13-08, 02:53 AM
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hi jeff... oh this isnt a true alchi thread?
i just woke up at 2 am after 3 hours of sleep and already back on the bottle. |
10-15-08, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 90lxcoupe Yea it was one of those little details i missed and it would have been a big deal if i didnt find it... they also make a phenolic gear that im going to look into, i will be calling comp cams first thing monday to find out which gear they recommend |
I put a Billet MSD(with the gear that MSD supplied) in the car and it didnt make anymore power, final numbers were 388 hp and 390 tq i believe, i will post the sheet after im out of class. drove the car home tonight... feels great, fastest all motor car ive driven
going to the track saturday(hopefully) |
10-18-08, 05:03 PM
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I was shocked when i was given the first slip and i ran 120 MPH, the run started off pretty terribe with alot of tire shake, and the track was pretty cold and not prepped very well... counldnt get the car to hook, so the next round of work is gonna be suspension stuff.
NEW GOAL- High 10's on the motor 
this motor has impressed me so much over the last 2 weeks, those trick flow heads are INCREDIBLE. Go buy a pair, you wont regret it
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10-19-08, 03:05 AM
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lmao 12.4 at 120. that's awesome man lol. glad to see you're having fun with it  |
12-09-08, 07:47 PM
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The car is tarped for the winter seeing as i dont have a garage. The winter plan is getting a 10pt cage in the car along with through the floor subframes which will fix my tq box situation... will have pics as soon as progress is made |
12-09-08, 08:02 PM
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goes like a beast man i cant wait to get mine going |
12-09-08, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by riceslayer302 goes like a beast man i cant wait to get mine going | yea its a good time... where are you in CT? i just landed a job in windsor |
12-09-08, 10:30 PM
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wow, i can't believe i haven't been in this progress thread before... the title is deceiving! haha
your car is sick man.. kinda looks like my car (with 80-odd more horsepower  ) keep us posted!
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02-05-09, 01:37 PM
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your makin alot better power then i woulda thought for a hyd roller cam setup with huge heads like that. what size cam is it? im buildin somethin similar with an R block but will be using solid roller an Rhs 215s. your car looks like alot of fun to drive an is makin me want to get my motor done as soon as possible. any other vids? |
02-09-09, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 82CapriRS your makin alot better power then i woulda thought for a hyd roller cam setup with huge heads like that. what size cam is it? im buildin somethin similar with an R block but will be using solid roller an Rhs 215s. your car looks like alot of fun to drive an is makin me want to get my motor done as soon as possible. any other vids? | i was also supprised about the power it made and the fact that the motor has far less peak power than my old 302/novi2k combo, and is much faster now.
The original plan was to put a 76mm turbo on the car and shoot for 700rwhp(which is why i bought the big heads), i was told when i bought the motor is was 9.7:1 CR, but it turned out being 10.75:1 and with the funky rod length i had no option for a dished piston.
Even my tuner thought the motor was going to be a tad lazy without nitrous, but when he drove the car it blew him away how much grunt the motor had all over the place. I think the motor is so aggressive because of the stroke/rod combo, and the compression height is under an inch, so it makes for one angry little small block.
I want to put a solid cam in it and see what it really will do but there are other things that will have to come first, plus the car runs fo well that i dont want to F with it, and i never have to adjust the rockers, which is nice. the cam is a comp 282 HR, nothing too radical, just an off the shelf comp nitrous cam...
I cant link any vids from work, but if you go on youtube my username is THEDOC612, and all my vids are on there. there is only one with the new motor, but theres some cool stuff on there. |
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Never even looked at this thread because of the title. Glad I did now. Sounds great, once you swapped out the stock dist. did it seem to fix the timing issue? Sure that thing is real snappy and fun to drive. Whats the plan for the nitrous kit? |
02-09-09, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bentley429 Never even looked at this thread because of the title. Glad I did now. Sounds great, once you swapped out the stock dist. did it seem to fix the timing issue? Sure that thing is real snappy and fun to drive. Whats the plan for the nitrous kit? |
yea the timing issue was solved after the new dist. The problem was that way back when i installed a new module inside of my stock distributor I didn't know to check the endplay, and there was ALOT of it. I was young and thought nothing of it. So when we were on the dyno we noticed that the timing wouldnt stay put, as soon as the cap came off they knew what it was, you could literally move the rotor mabye .030'' each way. So i saved the motor because when we took the stock one out you could see the wear pattern on the gears was bad news.
Im up in the air with the nitrous situation... I was planning on buying trick flow's kit designed for the R- manifold, but recently ive been thinking about just putting a Single Plane intake and a carb on it just for simplicity and in the long run it will be cheaper. If i keep the car EFI i know that im going to probly buy Big Stuff 3, then a fuel system, etc. etc. But if i had a carb on the car it'd be alot cheaper, simpler and possibly faster. As far as a shot goes, the Trick Flow R-kit limits me to a 200 shot, but if i had a plate kit i would probly throw a 250 or 300 shot at it.  
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02-09-09, 05:20 PM
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Have you thought about tapping the intake instead? Just a thought. Carb would make things a lot simpler. |
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this is the kit im going with, at this point i'm going to concentrate on the chassis befor i touch the motor anymore. I want to get the car running consistent low 11's before i even think about spraying it, the car should be in the 9's at that point(with nitrous), and then im probly going to have to switch to an automatic. So i want to get the car straight the way it is before i open another can of worms.
I dont want to tap the intake, for a couple reasons, that trick flow kit basically does the same thing as putting nozzles into the intake, and if i ever have to sell the intake it will be a nitrous guy only buying it and i'll loose all the time/money i put into a custom nitrous system that is one off to my car
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02-10-09, 02:56 PM
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Got ya. Nitrous kit looks nice. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
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