[randyp83]

What would it take for an old 5.0 to run with one of the SRT8 Chargers? I hear they have 425hp but look really heathly.

[fasterthanthem]

Not much...

If I'm not mistaken they only run high 13's, which would not take much to get.

[GTOreturns]

Well, it wouldn't be that tough but the 425HP Charger is a low 13 second car.

[MY 85 GT]

You guys are wrong....I have an 2006 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 bone stock with 500 miles on it ran 12.9 @ 109 mph...That was a cold day in Oct...On very Hot days it ran 13.1...Now my car isnt stock anymore i mean all i have is an Cold air intake, mufflers...resonators removed,colder t-stat...and a 100 shot... and i ran 12.0 @ 118 on street tires...and the car weighs in at 4685 lbs...They move dont under estimate them they have programers for them now and more mods then they did a few yrs ago...Yes you can make a stang run what they do...its not hard...I have my 85 GT that i want to run in the low 11's so im sure i can do that with some work....

[25thmustang]

Most guys are going to need HCI all the bolt ons, and probably even a tire to beat them. Quick cars!

[GTOreturns]

To beat a 100% stock one, all you need is 13 seconds to do it. High 12's would be the "icing" on the cake.

[leroy93lx]

My best friend has a 06 SRT8 300 and it ran 13.50 @107 on a 90+ degree day. Thats bone stock with 22" wheels on it and a trunk full of golf clubs! So pretty much , a fox body will need quite abit done to it to hang with a stock srt8. Be a better race with a stock SRT4!!

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by GTOreturns

To beat a 100% stock one, all you need is 13 seconds to do it. High 12's would be the "icing" on the cake.

Some run mid 13's...Mine runs 12.9-13.0 range STOCK.... maybe i got a freak...who knows...lol...With the bottle...Thats a different story...if i put the 125 jets in its a high 11 second car on 20 inch F1 street tirs i run 1.80 60's not to bad for a car with me in it weighs 4685 lbs....
I wish i could bolt my 6.1 into my Stang WOW would that be fast...almost a 1000 lbs lighter...OMG.....

[GTOreturns]

My parents have the smaller Hemi in a Magnum and that's a high 14 second car.
It's rated at 360HP. So I can't see how an extra 65 HP (In the SRT*'s) is gonna Make your Magnum a second and a half faster!

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by GTOreturns

My parents have the smaller Hemi in a Magnum and that's a high 14 second car.
It's rated at 360HP. So I can't see how an extra 65 HP (In the SRT*'s) is gonna Make your Magnum a second and a half faster!

Dude trust me i had an R/T 1st it ran 14.3's all day with an exhaust and cold air intake...An R/T has 345 hp not 360...SRT is 425 hp and its underrated trust me...Guys had them dyoned bone stock put out 370-380 to the wheels...I have time slips....about 3 dozen of them...Then run low low 13's and some run in the high 12's stock...they do...its not a lie....

[leroy93lx]

Yep, its true. The day my buddy ran his there was another 06 SRT8 300 running with the stock f1s and 20s and it ran a 13.33 off the highway. Went 13.17 after it cooled off. It was stock. Same car ran a 12.7 last week with a handheld tuner and a drop in filter. They are badass cars. Go test drive one!!

[GTOreturns]

Originally Posted by MY 85 GT

Dude trust me i had an R/T 1st it ran 14.3's all day with an exhaust and cold air intake...An R/T has 345 hp not 360...SRT is 425 hp and its underrated trust me...Guys had them dyoned bone stock put out 370-380 to the wheels...I have time slips....about 3 dozen of them...Then run low low 13's and some run in the high 12's stock...they do...its not a lie....

That's correct, 345 HP. They had a small write up in Car and Driver when the SRT8's first came out.
They Dynoed the new SRT without any accessories on it and on an engine stand, it made the SAME EXACT HP as the old 426 Hemi in the same test.
467FWHP.

[GTOreturns]

Originally Posted by leroy93lx

Yep, its true. The day my buddy ran his there was another 06 SRT8 300 running with the stock f1s and 20s and it ran a 13.33 off the highway. Went 13.17 after it cooled off. It was stock. Same car ran a 12.7 last week with a handheld tuner and a drop in filter. They are badass cars. Go test drive one!!

That's what I said. Low 13 seconds.

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by leroy93lx

Yep, its true. The day my buddy ran his there was another 06 SRT8 300 running with the stock f1s and 20s and it ran a 13.33 off the highway. Went 13.17 after it cooled off. It was stock. Same car ran a 12.7 last week with a handheld tuner and a drop in filter. They are badass cars. Go test drive one!!

Im told by alot of guys i hang out with that have SRT's i have a factory freak...1st run i made it went 12.9 @ 109....I did have some bad luck with the car tho when i got it i had a valve spring break at 147 miles...it was fixed took them 3 weeks tho they had to fly the SRT team out to see why it broke they were really concerned...now i took it to the track after it was fixed it had about 500 miles on it at that time...Maybe they did something to mine who knows...Lol...With spray my car is a Beast.... My worst trap speed ont he bottle is 114 mph best to date is 118 mph...I'll post a sound clip and a few pictures....see if i can now im at work...lol

[FastDriver]

Think of them like you used to thiink of LS1s, and I think you'll be right on track. They'll run low 13s, maybe eek out 12s. HCI + bolt on cars shouldn't have any problem putting them down for the count.

Chris

[stykthyn]

H/C/I with a healthy shot of NOS

[25thmustang]

Not a huge amount of 12 second basic HCI cars on street tires it seems... I assume were talking beat one on the street correct? If they are trapping 107-110 at the track, thats going to take a bit of work on the fox to do it.

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by 25thmustang

Not a huge amount of 12 second basic HCI cars on street tires it seems... I assume were talking beat one on the street correct? If they are trapping 107-110 at the track, thats going to take a bit of work on the fox to do it.

Exactly...And what says that SRT next to you is stock....ALOT and I mean alot of them already have H/C/I combos plus juice...so be very very careful when you see one next to you...I have SRT's with a programer go mid 12's on street tires...Bt no means an i sayin a mustnag cane beat one they could but i think its going to take alot of work to do it...just my opinion tho...

[FastDriver]

Well, that's because most of the foxes aren't built or tuned right. Here's a cookie cutter combo for 110+ traps and sub 13 times (I went 11.9@112.9 with ET Streets and stock suspension disconnected sway bar and 4 cyl springs).

AFR165s pedestal mount milled .024"(box-stock ports and combustion chambers)Cobra intake w/ ported lower (RPM would be preferable)
custom cam ($325)
1.6 rockers
pullies, electric fan
BBK 1 5/8" LTs w/ H-pipe, Dynomax superturbo mufflers (quiet and probably restrictive)
4.10 gears, TKO tranny, aluminum D/S
65mm TB, 75 bullet MAF, K&N conical
24# injectors@55psi (30# injectors preferable)
Walbro in-tank 255lph pump
No lightening except the dog-bone and spare tire removed
18* timing
No engine management or chip

Or you could just go with a 125-150 shot of NOS (yeah I said NOS, what's the big deal?) on a stock 5.0, would get you the power you'd need.

That should be plenty to handle one from a drag or a roll. From a drag though, with the gears and tires you'll holeshot the poor SOB so bad he won't wanna race another fox again. Then you'll just continue to run away from the heavy-goliath looking behemuth. Your car will run 160+ mph in the top end, so he shouldn't even be able to run you down, there.

My85GT, I think we better not get into the modified arguments because those never end, and the answer is always just "more modifications." Speed costs money, how fast do you wanna spend?

Chris

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by FastDriver

Well, that's because most of the foxes aren't built or tuned right. Here's a cookie cutter combo for 110+ traps and sub 13 times (I went 11.9@112.9 with ET Streets and stock suspension disconnected sway bar and 4 cyl springs).

AFR165s pedestal mount milled .024"(box-stock ports and combustion chambers)Cobra intake w/ ported lower (RPM would be preferable)
custom cam ($325)
1.6 rockers
pullies, electric fan
BBK 1 5/8" LTs w/ H-pipe, Dynomax superturbo mufflers (quiet and probably restrictive)
4.10 gears, TKO tranny, aluminum D/S
65mm TB, 75 bullet MAF, K&N conical
24# injectors@55psi (30# injectors preferable)
Walbro in-tank 255lph pump
No lightening except the dog-bone and spare tire removed
18* timing
No engine management or chip

Or you could just go with a 125-150 shot of NOS (yeah I said NOS, what's the big deal?) on a stock 5.0, would get you the power you'd need.

That should be plenty to handle one from a drag or a roll. From a drag though, with the gears and tires you'll holeshot the poor SOB so bad he won't wanna race another fox again. Then you'll just continue to run away from the heavy-goliath looking behemuth. Your car will run 160+ mph in the top end, so he shouldn't even be able to run you down, there.

My85GT, I think we better not get into the modified arguments because those never end, and the answer is always just "more modifications." Speed costs money, how fast do you wanna spend?

Chris

Im not going to get into an argument with anyone but anyday you want to go from a roll..lets go....An SRT just isnt fast in the 1/4 my friend they have a top speed of 180 yes i said 180 stock ....and it can do it i can post many many many videos of guys running them..at top speeds...Some from Germany on the autobahn...You would have to gear your car for some very fast 1/4 speeds to run int he 11's i know i have to install gears on my GT..My SRT stock comes with 3.06's yes thats all they have they dont even make gears for them yet...So not only is it fast in the 1/4 it has good road manners to...They stopping power is awesome 13 inch brake rotors Brembo brakes...its not a run of the mill car they put some time and monely tooling this car to compeat with the big boys....Any it i can remember the 1st post stated what would it take to stya with an SRT...that means what MODS..Do You need to STAY with a bone stock 4600 lb car...that already runs low low low 13's to high 12's STOCK!!!!!! so yes we can keep going here but why....Take a bone stock GT and A bone stock SRT and all i can say is bye bye.....no chance...The SRT is an all around car not just bult for the 1/4 miles its actually a family car...lol

[25thmustang]

I know all about cookie cutter fast cars. We have a GT40P stock cammed car that has been 112 mph and 12.0s, in a stock chassis with 3.55s it went 12.1 @ 110... My E7 stock cammed car has been 109 mph in the 1/4. I'm just saying your "average" HCI car out there is a 106-110 mph car, right there with an SRT. The SRTs get out of the hole better on street tires (from the sounds of it) and only need bolt ons to go a bit faster.

Im only speaking of average cars here. The average guy who buys a TFS HCI kit, gears, exhaust and goes to the track does NOT run 11s...

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by 25thmustang

I know all about cookie cutter fast cars. We have a GT40P stock cammed car that has been 112 mph and 12.0s, in a stock chassis with 3.55s it went 12.1 @ 110... My E7 stock cammed car has been 109 mph in the 1/4. I'm just saying your "average" HCI car out there is a 106-110 mph car, right there with an SRT. The SRTs get out of the hole better on street tires (from the sounds of it) and only need bolt ons to go a bit faster.

Im only speaking of average cars here. The average guy who buys a TFS HCI kit, gears, exhaust and goes to the track does NOT run 11s...

My point here was the guy asked what it would take to beat an SRT....IMO it would not take that much to run with or beat an SRT but the Mustang will be alot more aggresive then the STOCK SRT is...You can only image with bolt ons what a low 13 second car can do...What im saying here is it doenst take that much to get an SRT in the 11's...I went 12.0 with an CAI ...mufflers an colder t-stat and only a 100 shot...When i up to 125-150 its not going to be hard to get 11's...And i know there are alot of mustangs running 11's but were the other guy said he would race from a roll up to 160 i cant see that you need some steep gears to run 12's-11's in a mustang were my car still retains its top speed its unaffected with the mods i have and it can only go fatser if i sprayed it from a roll...if my car can run just say 170 stock think what it could do if i sprayed it at say 150 mph...Thats the whole reason i bought the SRT Magnum it was different..fast...and still can be driven daily running in the 12's Of course i cant wait to get my Stang in the 11's now thats what im building now and thats what i want to race...

[FastDriver]

Originally Posted by 25thmustang

I know all about cookie cutter fast cars. We have a GT40P stock cammed car that has been 112 mph and 12.0s, in a stock chassis with 3.55s it went 12.1 @ 110... My E7 stock cammed car has been 109 mph in the 1/4. I'm just saying your "average" HCI car out there is a 106-110 mph car, right there with an SRT. The SRTs get out of the hole better on street tires (from the sounds of it) and only need bolt ons to go a bit faster.

Im only speaking of average cars here. The average guy who buys a TFS HCI kit, gears, exhaust and goes to the track does NOT run 11s...

I have much respect for your opinions, brother. I know what you've done with your cars. We've had quite a few chats in the past about your car and your dad's. The post was more intended for other people to see that a HCI fox built and tuned right shouldn't have a problem with an SRT8.

Originally Posted by MY 85 GT

Im not going to get into an argument with anyone but anyday you want to go from a roll..lets go....

Chill out, man. I never said anything about racing you. Nothing to prove here. Besides, I don't have the old combo anymore. So I couldn't race anyone with it if I wanted to. The current combo is a '91 LX with a Dart 331 and a 76mm turbo. The other car is a vette.

An SRT just isnt fast in the 1/4 my friend they have a top speed of 180 yes i said 180 stock ....and it can do it i can post many many many videos of guys running them..at top speeds...Some from Germany on the autobahn...

Please do so. I just looked up their top speed on a couple of sites, and none of them said they were that fast, but they were just estimates, and I was impressed nonetheless.

You would have to gear your car for some very fast 1/4 speeds to run int he 11's i know i have to install gears on my GT..My SRT stock comes with 3.06's yes thats all they have they dont even make gears for them yet...So not only is it fast in the 1/4 it has good road manners to...They stopping power is awesome 13 inch brake rotors Brembo brakes...its not a run of the mill car they put some time and monely tooling this car to compeat with the big boys....

Very cool cars, and congrats on yours, brother.

Any it i can remember the 1st post stated what would it take to stya with an SRT...that means what MODS..Do You need to STAY with a bone stock 4600 lb car...that already runs low low low 13's to high 12's STOCK!!!!!!

Right... did I miss something or was my HCI example accurate?

so yes we can keep going here but why....Take a bone stock GT and A bone stock SRT and all i can say is bye bye.....no chance...The SRT is an all around car not just bult for the 1/4 miles its actually a family car...lol

agreed, a family car. GT hasn't a chance. Feel better? Cool.

Chris

[25thmustang]

MY 85 GT: not sure why I was quoted and you gave me your point... I'm pretty sure I was agreeing with you? If you don't think I was, then not sure what to tell you?

FastDriver: I agree, I just try and think more of the average person now. I was told many times I cant use my car, or my brothers, or my dads, or some of my friends cars to compare as they arent the norm, which was the reason I tried tho throw my .02 in there.

I don't think anyones attacking the SRT, and yes it is faster than a new GT. We very much so can tell you love the car you purchased, and thats awesome. Personally I would never own one, I wouldnt even question it, Id be driving an older M5, CTS V, or something along those lines... different strokes, as they say.

I love fast family cars. Im content with 14 second ones, doesnt even need to run 12s.

One quick question though...

I was at the PINKS race in NJ a month or so ago and they had an SRT challenge. They were running GC SRTs and I believe it was Chargers (didnt get a good look) down the 1/8th mile track there. The GCs were going 8.8s, and the Chargers 9.0s... Now a 9.0 is laughable in the 1/8th for the power they make, but thats exactly what they were running. Any reason to this???

[MY 85 GT]

Originally Posted by 25thmustang

MY 85 GT: not sure why I was quoted and you gave me your point... I'm pretty sure I was agreeing with you? If you don't think I was, then not sure what to tell you?

FastDriver: I agree, I just try and think more of the average person now. I was told many times I cant use my car, or my brothers, or my dads, or some of my friends cars to compare as they arent the norm, which was the reason I tried tho throw my .02 in there.

I don't think anyones attacking the SRT, and yes it is faster than a new GT. We very much so can tell you love the car you purchased, and thats awesome. Personally I would never own one, I wouldnt even question it, Id be driving an older M5, CTS V, or something along those lines... different strokes, as they say.

I love fast family cars. Im content with 14 second ones, doesnt even need to run 12s.

One quick question though...

I was at the PINKS race in NJ a month or so ago and they had an SRT challenge. They were running GC SRTs and I believe it was Chargers (didnt get a good look) down the 1/8th mile track there. The GCs were going 8.8s, and the Chargers 9.0s... Now a 9.0 is laughable in the 1/8th for the power they make, but thats exactly what they were running. Any reason to this???

Yeah that was a R/T not an SRT from what i heard...The GC's are 5.7 hemis..The SRT jeep is an 6.1...There quick but Heavy...and AWD...i dont have slips in fron of me right now but i know i run fatser then that in the 1/8...And no i was agreeing with you..too before...Im not fighting with anyone here..I love my SRT yes but i do LOVE my stang much more..hehe...I wanted an 85/86 since i was 15 and yes in 1985 i was 15.... so i grew up with the 5.0's love them have much respect for the little motor...And by no means did i want to come off like a jerk...im not...I guess i get carried away sometimes...So sorry to any of you guys that think i did....i didnt mean any dis- respect to anyone.....