[Reimann]

It seems every thread is either "Palin sucks because..." or "Obama sucks because..." and we never hear any positives about anyone. So, for this thread, instead of trying to convince people that they shouldn't vote for the candidate they favor try explaining why they should vote for the candidate you favor. Give some specifics. Don't just say things like, "I'm voting for X because he'll bring about change!" That doesn't tell us anything. Be specific like, "I am voting for X because I would benefit from his tax plan." And instead of attacking people for expressing their reasons here try countering with a positive from your candidate. "You may benefit from X's tax plan but Y's will benefit you this much more."

Can a thread like this really work on Stangnet? Only one way to find out...

[rbohm]

i want a president that will appoint judges that will apply the constitution to the law, and not make new law from the bench.

i want a president that will uphold the constitution.

i want a president that will work to keep our taxes low.

i want a president that will work to curb government spending.

i want a president that will work towards energy independence for this country, and who will use all resources available to this country to achieve that goal.

i want a president who has some intergrity and honor.

these are just a few reasons why i am voting for john mccain.

[Blandnuts]

I hope this works out....but I'm going to vote present right now since it's past my bedtime.

[Ike83]

I want a President that is tough on terrorism and wants to finish up the job in Iraq. A President who wants to keep taxes low and find a way to make healthcare more affordable without destroying the whole system. I also would like a President that is against pork barrel spending and agrees that less government is better for the American people. I want a President who believes that there's such thing as a 2nd Amendment and that the American people should have the right to bear arms. I also want a President that agrees human life is valuable, has a consistent pro-life stance, and thinks the American flag is important enough to salute when the pledge of allegiance is playing.

[fasterthanthem]

What is a canidate?

[GT40XStang9]

Originally Posted by Reimann

It seems every thread is either "Palin sucks because..." or "Obama sucks because..." and we never hear any positives about anyone. So, for this thread, instead of trying to convince people that they shouldn't vote for the candidate they favor try explaining why they should vote for the candidate you favor. Give some specifics. Don't just say things like, "I'm voting for X because he'll bring about change!" That doesn't tell us anything. Be specific like, "I am voting for X because I would benefit from his tax plan." And instead of attacking people for expressing their reasons here try countering with a positive from your candidate. "You may benefit from X's tax plan but Y's will benefit you this much more."

Can a thread like this really work on Stangnet? Only one way to find out...

Don't bank on wart posting anything more productive than this post.

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[Ike83]

Originally Posted by GT40XStang9

Don't bank on wart posting anything more productive than this post.

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Or poboy for that matter.

[RookieOne]

I think I'm just as pessimistic as some of the far left individuals we have out there, though I'm speaking from the right side.

I Like that McCain/Palin because they are Republican. With the House and Senate more than likely staying Democratic controlled, I want a Republican in the Whitehouse.

I like McCain/Palin because them in office means more gridlock and less screwing over of the American Public.......

GO GRIDLOCK!

[EMW150]

Originally Posted by rbohm

i want a president that will appoint judges that will apply the constitution to the law, and not make new law from the bench.

i want a president that will uphold the constitution.

i want a president that will work to keep our taxes low.

i want a president that will work to curb government spending.

i want a president that will work towards energy independence for this country, and who will use all resources available to this country to achieve that goal.

i want a president who has some intergrity and honor.

these are just a few reasons why i am voting for john mccain.

I don't know for sure, but from previous posts and this one, I think I found a fellow Levin fan.

[EMW150]

Originally Posted by Ike83

Or poboy for that matter.

Yeah really. Mr Ron Paul supporter who doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.

[WhiteFox342]

I want a prez who won't try to take my guns from me.

McCain all the way.

[Ike83]

Originally Posted by EMW150

I don't know for sure, but from previous posts and this one, I think I found a fellow Levin fan.

Are you referring to Mark Levin?

[EMW150]

Originally Posted by Ike83

Are you referring to Mark Levin?

Yes, "The Great One"

[Ike83]

Originally Posted by EMW150

Yes, "The Great One"

He's definitely entertaining to listen to. I love it when he goes on a rampage. He really lets the Dems have it without pulling any punches if you know what I mean.

[Donny]

I want a president that will appoint judges that will apply the constitution to the law, and not make new law from the bench.

I want a president that will uphold the constitution.

I want a president that will work to keep our taxes low.

I want a president that will work to curb government spending.

I want a president that will work towards energy independence for this country, and who will use all resources available to this country to achieve that goal.

I want a president who has some intergrity and honor.

these are just a few reasons why i am voting for Barack Obama

[Ike83]

Originally Posted by Donny

I want a president that will work to keep our taxes low.

Kind of hard to do when Obama wants to RAISE them.

Originally Posted by Donny

I want a president that will work to curb government spending.

Then you might not want to vote for someone who wants to nationalize healthcare.

Originally Posted by Donny

I want a president that will work towards energy independence for this country, and who will use all resources available to this country to achieve that goal.

Obama is against drilling in ANWR and against drilling offshore. This will force us to stay 70% dependent on foreign oil. Not to mention he's also against building any nuclear reactors. So how DOES he plan on making us more energy independent? Besides making sure our tires are inflated and putting an additional tax on electricity.

Originally Posted by Donny

I want a president who has some intergrity and honor.

Is this what you mean by integrity and honor?

YouTube - Barack Hussein Obama refuses to salute US flag

Originally Posted by Donny

these are just a few reasons why i am voting for Barack Obama

Which brings me to my next point ladies and gentlemen.....

Do NOT smoke crack.

[Reimann]

Originally Posted by Ike83

Kind of hard to do when Obama wants to RAISE them.



Then you might not want to vote for someone who wants to nationalize healthcare.



Obama is against drilling in ANWR and against drilling offshore. This will force us to stay 70% dependent on foreign oil. Not to mention he's also against building any nuclear reactors. So how DOES he plan on making us more energy independent? Besides making sure our tires are inflated and putting an additional tax on electricity.



Is this what you mean by integrity and honor?

YouTube - Barack Hussein Obama refuses to salute US flag




Which brings me to my next point ladies and gentlemen.....

Do NOT smoke crack.

My hope for this thread was that it could be a place for people to express why they support the candidate that they do without being attacked for it.

The issue of taxes is a complicated one. Experts have a hard time agreeing exactly who will be effected by their plans because they are only giving vague impressions of what they are wanting to do and each time they talk about it they tailor their message to whoever they are talking to at the time. For what I have heard from Obama I believe he would cut taxes for the lowest brackets but anyone who is well to do will get an increase. McCain seems more likely to give everyone a tax break, which may not be a good idea either. Obama probably would cut federal spending more just because he'd pull us out of Iraq immediately, which would probably not be a good thing. We could argue Constitution all day and not come to an agreement on who would implement it better. (Off topic, I did find it funny that Whoopie Goldberg while talking with John McCain said that she thought a strict interpretation of the Constitution would mean that she would have to become a slave.) As for energy, I fear McCain would focus too much on using our oil and not enough on new sources while Obama would focus too much on new sources while not using our oil reserves. We need someone that will tap our supplies while researching the alternatives. Honor and Integrity are in the eyes of the beholder and each man has their pluses and minuses in that category.

[Donny]

Originally Posted by Ike83

Which brings me to my next point ladies and gentlemen.....

Do NOT smoke crack.

Wow you opened my eyes!
I now see that your personal beliefs and thinking is the only logical thinking there is!
It must feel good to know that you know it all!

I hate the 2 party system and people who pull one handle, both candidates have good and bad views and it don't matter who gets in office cause the damage is done and there is no fixing the mess were in now.

[Reimann]

Originally Posted by Donny

Wow you opened my eyes!
I now see that your personal beliefs and thinking is the only logical thinking there is!
It must feel good to know that you know it all!

This is why I am trying to eliminate attacks here. I'd be nice if we had a thread once in a while in which we could rationally discuss something without ending up at each others throats. Then again, such a thread might not belong in "Fight Club."

[Ike83]

Originally Posted by Reimann

This is why I am trying to eliminate attacks here. I'd be nice if we had a thread once in a while in which we could rationally discuss something without ending up at each others throats.

If you're going to take somebody ELSE'S post and swap the words Barack Obama in there, then you're asking for someone to correct the mis-stated truths. Sorry.

[Reimann]

Originally Posted by Ike83

If you're going to take somebody ELSE'S post and swap the words Barack Obama in there, then you're asking for someone to correct the mis-stated truths. Sorry.

I thought he was just replying in the same format but after giving it a second look you are right that he just swapped McCain for Obama. I thought it was weird that anyone would think that Obama would lower taxes or curb government spending.

[302RollinHard]

Originally Posted by Reimann

Can a thread like this really work on Stangnet? Only one way to find out...

And as you have now demonstrated, the FC has become extremely tedious as of late--with both sides of the political spectrum to blame........

[Donny]

Originally Posted by Reimann

I thought he was just replying in the same format but after giving it a second look you are right that he just swapped McCain for Obama. I thought it was weird that anyone would think that Obama would lower taxes or curb government spending.

I was tring to prove a point that every candidate promises the same things and none of them ever follow through with them!

I also think that Obama would lower taxes and curb government spending just as much as McCain would, Right before the next election after 3+ years of reckless spending!

[Reimann]

Originally Posted by Donny

I was tring to prove a point that every candidate promises the same things and none of them ever follow through with them!

That wasn't clear and didn't fit the purpose of this thread.

With that being the case no one has expressed (any real reason) why they want to vote for Obama. 4 people expressed their reasons for being for McCain. Interesting.

[Donny]

Originally Posted by Reimann

That wasn't clear and didn't fit the purpose of this thread.

With that being the case no one has expressed (any real reason) why they want to vote for Obama. 4 people expressed their reasons for being for McCain. Interesting.

Maybe they haven't expressed their reasons for supporting Obama cause they know that it would just be fuel on the fire for the so called "Smarter people" to degrade them for their opinions.

As long as people show support for McCain in this thread it will stay quite in here but after the first person comes forward to support Obama it will get ugly in here.