[Therian]

Originally Posted by 1990Coupe

OH SNAP i was beat out!

Zing!

[302RollinHard]

Originally Posted by Therian

Is that the red or the white?

Red

White

[Pokageek]

Originally Posted by GT40XStang9

A. Where is that article from?
B. Where is the proof she was running a government via Yahoo email?

Everything I've read shows that there was nothing worth reading in the emails.

Do you need proof of air before you breathe? Kind of joking but you are over-analyzing.

[GT40XStang9]

Originally Posted by Pokageek

Do you need proof of air before you breathe? Kind of joking but you are over-analyzing.

Confucius says: 'Tis better to be over anal than under anal when the BS drops.

HuffPo appears to be the answer to one of my questions.

[strtrcr50]

State rep confirms that son is subject of Palin e-mail chatter
By THEO EMERY • Staff Writer • September 18, 2008

State Rep. Mike Kernell confirmed Thursday that his son, a University of Tennessee-Knoxville student, is at the center of heated Internet discussion into the hacking of the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Kernell, a Memphis Democrat, confirmed that it is his 20-year-old son, David, who is being widely named on Internet blogs and chatrooms in connection with an unfolding story about Palin's hacked e-mail accounts.

The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation on Wednesday into the hacking.

David Kernell is a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. Mike Kernell said he spoke to his son on Thursday, as he does on a regular basis.

Kernell otherwise declined to comment, or discuss his son’s whereabouts.

State rep confirms that son is subject of Palin e-mail chatter | www.tennessean.com | The Tennessean
Get 'im.
And here is David Kernell in the flesh..

[Wart]

Originally Posted by Pokageek

"It's not a great idea to run a government using Yahoo! e-mail accounts.

Palin and Yahoo Mail
Gov. Sarah Palin's e-mail habit of using a private account to communicate with aides echos the worst practices of the Bush administration, says one expert.
(ABCNews Photo Illustration)

Shrubs administration used email provided by the RNC. I should be able to find something more on that,

About Token:



Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.

....

While Ms. Palin took office promising a more open government, her administration has battled to keep information secret. Her inner circle discussed the benefit of using private e-mail addresses. An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a BlackBerry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”

Ms. Palin and aides use their private e-mail addresses for state business. A campaign spokesman said the governor copied e-mail messages to her state account “when there was significant state business.”
On Feb. 7, Frank Bailey, a high-level aide, wrote to Ms. Palin’s state e-mail address to discuss appointments. Another aide fired back: “Frank, this is not the governor’s personal account.”

Mr. Bailey responded: “Whoops~!”


Mr. Bailey, a former midlevel manager at Alaska Airlines who worked on Ms. Palin’s campaign, has been placed on paid leave; he has emerged as a central figure in the trooper investigation.



So it seems there could be more to this than just using a Yahoo account for official business, seems Token could have other reasons for using the Yahoo account.

[Wart]

Political advisers to President Bush may have improperly used their Republican National Committee e-mail accounts to conduct official government business, and some communications that are required to be preserved under federal law may be lost as a result, White House officials said Wednesday.

Of the 1,000 White House officials with political duties, 22 -- including Karl Rove, the chief political strategist -- have Republican National Committee accounts that are supposed to be used only for campaign-related work. But recent revelations that some officials have used those accounts for Bush administration business, including discussions of a plan to dismiss United States attorneys, has prompted a Congressional investigation.

[TheRican]

I use my own Cypher all the time to send emails back and forth to friends. It is something that we have been doing since High school and it has just stuck.

Of course, it has been tweaked as we grew up, but I am sure with enough patience it could be cracked.

She could have done something similar.

[strtrcr50]

Originally Posted by Wart

So it seems there could be more to this than just using a Yahoo account for official business, seems Token could have other reasons for using the Yahoo account.

Unfortunately for you, there wasn't a thing interesting in the emails. Nothing. No govt business, no secrets, nothing. If you want to read them, you can look around and find the rapidshare links. I'd start at the source if I were interested.

[Wart]

Originally Posted by strtrcr50

Unfortunately for you, there wasn't a thing interesting in the emails. Nothing.

Nothing?

I guess you don't count : dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records. and An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a BlackBerry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”


This doesn't tell you Token is trying to operate under the radar?

If so you once again illustrate how Rightie is going to believe what Rightie wants to believe.

[Wart]

Originally Posted by TheRican

I use my own Cypher all the time to send emails back and forth to friends. It is something that we have been doing since High school and it has just stuck.

Of course, it has been tweaked as we grew up, but I am sure with enough patience it could be cracked.

She could have done something similar.

The point now is that Palin is using a private mail address (Yahoo) to conduct Government Business in order to avoid there being a public record.

Pretty shady.

[GT40XStang9]

Originally Posted by Wart

Nothing?

I guess you don't count : dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records. and An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a BlackBerry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”


This doesn't tell you Token is trying to operate under the radar?

All that tells me is that an assistant told her that, allegedly.

Ms. Palin and aides use their private e-mail addresses for state business. A campaign spokesman said the governor copied e-mail messages to her state account “when there was significant state business.”

All this tells me is that when an email turned into a formal state business-related issue, she sent it to her formal state business-related email account. I still haven't seen any proof of state business being run via personal email. Not only that, but...

On Feb. 7, Frank Bailey, a high-level aide, wrote to Ms. Palin’s state e-mail address to discuss appointments. Another aide fired back: “Frank, this is not the governor’s personal account.”

Some aides obviously knew it was not to be used as such.

Originally Posted by Wart

If so you once again illustrate how Rightie is going to believe what Rightie wants to believe.

How in the H-E-double hockey stick are you any different?

[strtrcr50]

Originally Posted by Wart

Nothing?

I guess you don't count : dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records. and An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a BlackBerry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”


This doesn't tell you Token is trying to operate under the radar?

If so you once again illustrate how Rightie is going to believe what Rightie wants to believe.

I've looked at the emails. Have you? Like I said, they're posted on rapidshare. I even told you where to get the links and passwords. Now go get to reading little man.

[Reimann]

Originally Posted by Wart

I guess you don't count : dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records. and An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a BlackBerry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”

Wow, a politician looking into the rules to see what they are able to do! We definitely don't need someone like that Washington!

[strtrcr50]

Originally Posted by Reimann

Wow, a politician looking into the rules to see what they are able to do! We definitely don't need someone like that Washington!

QFW!

[Wart]

Originally Posted by strtrcr50

I've looked at the emails. Have you? Like I said, they're posted on rapidshare.

Since you don't deny the doing government business on private accounts, or the subverting public record and subpoena issue, I guess these things must be true.

Now go get to reading little man.

Will the projections of your own short cumings never cease.?

[Wart]

Originally Posted by GT40XStang9

All this tells me is that when an email turned into a formal state business-related issue, she sent it to her formal state business-related email account. I still haven't seen any proof of state business being run via personal email. Not only that, but...

You don't see where your contradicting yourself?

[GT40XStang9]

Originally Posted by Wart

You don't see where your contradicting yourself?

Okay, what I said may be technically contradictory but it's not at the level you wish it was or imply it is. It has been my experience that personal emails with colleagues can easily and quickly turn into business related emails. IOW, it's easy for me to rationalize the forward-all-state-email rule as the only effective way to keep herself out of trouble, for lack of a better phrase. If there was a more effective method, I'd expect employers to punish employees who send and receive NSFW emails instead of just send.

I still stand by my statement:

Originally Posted by me

I still haven't seen any proof of state business being run via personal email.

[strtrcr50]

Originally Posted by Wart

Since you don't deny the doing government business on private accounts, or the subverting public record and subpoena issue, I guess these things must be true.




Will the projections of your own short cumings never cease.?

I wasn't aware you were looking for me to confirm or deny official govt business. Since you are, no, there is no govt business that I saw. You won't believe me. Why not look for yourself.
And, no shortcomings here. Sorry Markie. How's the basement today anyway?