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10-14-08, 10:53 AM
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like I have stated before. I love it here.
Two types of hospitals, private and government.
a little back story The average thai is making 7-10,000 Baht a month $200-300 35b/$1
I can walk into a clean hospital and be treated right away, but I have to have insurance or $. I get top notch help and the tech is #1
A poor Thai farmer can go to the hospital and pay 30b (90cents) and wait in line but have access to great doctors since they get paid great money to work at these hospitals. The rooms and facilities are not as nice as the private hospitals, the wait can be hours and the tech might be a few years behind, but anyone can have access to it.e sniffles expecting the hospital to foot the bill.
I love it, I get great service without waiting for someone with th |
10-14-08, 12:37 PM
|  | I'm Mad as HELL and I'M not Gonna Take it ANYMORE! | | Join Date: September 1998 Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50  I suspect a large part of my health care pricing comes from the fact that I'm the only one on it. Pretty much everywhere I've worked in the last 7 years or so have had me in the 40-60 a week range for good coverage for single tho. |
Are you a Union worker? |
10-15-08, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluffing024 It isn't about her not being able to afford insurance, | No, It's about Lisa losing her shoe allowance money.  |
10-15-08, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tx3nC No, It's about Lisa losing her shoe allowance money. | FINALLY! Somebody gets it! |
10-15-08, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Strype Car insurance is NOT EVER under government control. There is no gov't car insurance plan which is why it is cheap. The free market insures that it is cheap because to stay in business (without becoming an illegal monopoly) a company has to bid against other companies for your business and they are forced to be cheaper. Supply and demand. | The free market insures that it's cheap??
I have little faith in the free market system to keep prices low. Health care is currently in the free market and it's not staying cheap. That doesn't work when business/industries get together and decide on pricing thus limiting the pressures of the free market.
However, in Texas when the government mandated that every one must have car insurance the policies got crappier and more expensive. They stayed that way until the state changed the rules and somehow opened the insurance market up to smaller more competitive carriers.
So, I think that if they do institute a national health insurance program the prices will likely increase. At least at first.  |
10-15-08, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RookieOne That the US system sucks and all other countries universal healthcare Pwns the US!!!!
DUH!!!!  | No, but he would learn that it is possible to do government health care. |
10-15-08, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jikelly The free market insures that it's cheap??
I have little faith in the free market system to keep prices low. Health care is currently in the free market and it's not staying cheap. That doesn't work when business/industries get together and decide on pricing thus limiting the pressures of the free market.
However, in Texas when the government mandated that every one must have car insurance the policies got crappier and more expensive. They stayed that way until the state changed the rules and somehow opened the insurance market up to smaller more competitive carriers.
. | Sometimes you must not even proof read what you type.
In Texas - Government gets involved and mandates requirements. Policies get crappier (your word) and more expensive. Gov't changes rulings and opens up insurance markets to more competitive carriers (meaning that there WAS Gov't regulation and REMOVING it allowed for more competition) and there were better prices and options.
Your example of Texas is, as you presented it at least, a pretty good argument for the benefits of Free-Market cost reduction. 
edit: ok...so I guess I read YOUR post too fast. Are you putting forward the possibility that Free-Market may work???
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10-15-08, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wart Are you a Union worker? | No sir. Import car dealership employee. |
10-15-08, 10:09 PM
|  | Cuthbert catcher | | Join Date: May 1999 Location: Anywhere except the Unemployment Line
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Originally Posted by jikelly The free market insures that it's cheap??
I have little faith in the free market system to keep prices low. Health care is currently in the free market and it's not staying cheap. That doesn't work when business/industries get together and decide on pricing thus limiting the pressures of the free market. | Quote:
Originally Posted by jikelly However, in Texas when the government mandated that every one must have car insurance the policies got crappier and more expensive. They stayed that way until the state changed the rules and somehow opened the insurance market up to smaller more competitive carriers. | ehem Quote:
Originally Posted by RookieOne Your example of Texas is, as you presented it at least, a pretty good argument for the benefits of Free-Market cost reduction.
edit: ok...so I guess I read YOUR post too fast. Are you putting forward the possibility that Free-Market may work??? | |
10-16-08, 04:49 AM
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So did Obama say that these mandates would cost $0? I'll have to watch that part again; I apparently lost my focus during healthcare. |
10-16-08, 07:56 AM
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Yes, he told Joe the Plumber that it would cost him $0 |
10-16-08, 09:19 AM
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$0 in fines. As long as his business stayed below whatever size/profit margin limit they set for the distention between small and large businesses. |
10-16-08, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RookieOne Sometimes you must not even proof read what you type.
In Texas - Government gets involved and mandates requirements. Policies get crappier (your word) and more expensive. Gov't changes rulings and opens up insurance markets to more competitive carriers (meaning that there WAS Gov't regulation and REMOVING it allowed for more competition) and there were better prices and options.
Your example of Texas is, as you presented it at least, a pretty good argument for the benefits of Free-Market cost reduction.
edit: ok...so I guess I read YOUR post too fast. Are you putting forward the possibility that Free-Market may work??? | The free market works when there is not collusion.
Our government no longer protects consumers from such "minor" illegal business practices. The government has failed us in so many ways because it is in bed with the enemy so to speak.
McCain wants to give us all money to buy health insurance without increasing government regulation on the industry. What I think would happen if he instituted such a plan is that insurance companies will raise prices as the number of people with money to spend on health insurance increases. In the long run it will wind up being like a subsidy to the insurance industry. |
10-16-08, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jikelly $0 in fines. As long as his business stayed below whatever size/profit margin limit they set for the distention between small and large businesses. | So now instead of children dreaming to be the next founder/owner/ceo of Exxon you have them dreaming of owning a business that makes less than $250,000 a year.  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
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