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11-09-08, 08:42 PM
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11-09-08, 08:53 PM
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It's a great kit. You could use it with the stock internals, or step up to a stoker kit if you were looking for more power. On a stock engine, most people are in the 300-315ish RWHP range after bolting it on. |
11-09-08, 10:41 PM
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That kit is a great deal as long as you're not expecting to grow too much. The biggest part of the kit are the heads and at 170cc's they are pretty much maxed out on a 302 IMO. Even though a TW 170cc head is "bigger" than a standard in-line 170 you're still only looking at a bit over 400 HP N/A capability.
I would recommend the COMP 851-16 lifters. If you are budget minded the FMS lifters will do fine but you're best off to replace them if you change the cam and up the spring pressure.
Also if you go with this kit don't just drop it in and assume all is good. Even though it comes as a "matched" set you still need to degree the cam and check valve train geometry. |
11-10-08, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian@PAR  That kit is a great deal as long as you're not expecting to grow too much. The biggest part of the kit are the heads and at 170cc's they are pretty much maxed out on a 302 IMO. Even though a TW 170cc head is "bigger" than a standard in-line 170 you're still only looking at a bit over 400 HP N/A capability.
I would recommend the COMP 851-16 lifters. If you are budget minded the FMS lifters will do fine but you're best off to replace them if you change the cam and up the spring pressure.
Also if you go with this kit don't just drop it in and assume all is good. Even though it comes as a "matched" set you still need to degree the cam and check valve train geometry. | yeah, i'm very tedious when it comes to my motor. i will still check all my clearences and geometry... |
11-10-08, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by StangGT1995 It's a great kit. You could use it with the stock internals, or step up to a stoker kit if you were looking for more power. On a stock engine, most people are in the 300-315ish RWHP range after bolting it on. | if i wanted to stroke it out what pistons should i go with along with this kit?? |
11-10-08, 09:15 AM
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probe srs pistons ftw  |
11-11-08, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dcurtis probe srs pistons ftw | what about this kit, eagle pistons rods and forged crankshaft + boost?? |
11-12-08, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by snakebite01 what about this kit, eagle pistons rods and forged crankshaft + boost?? | If you plan on throwing boost at it, you may want to re-think your setup and skip the new rotating assembly. The stock bottom end will be more than adequate for block splitting horsepower, and adding a built rotating assembly to is not only not necessary….but also can be wastefull if/when the block splits and takes out all of those expensive goodies.
So if you’re looking to add boost, the h/c/I, stock shortblock and 10lbs should get you into the 500rwhp range. |
11-12-08, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by millhouse If you plan on throwing boost at it, you may want to re-think your setup and skip the new rotating assembly. The stock bottom end will be more than adequate for block splitting horsepower, and adding a built rotating assembly to is not only not necessary….but also can be wastefull if/when the block splits and takes out all of those expensive goodies.
So if you’re looking to add boost, the h/c/I, stock shortblock and 10lbs should get you into the 500rwhp range. | i see you know about boost.. what h/c/i would you suggest?? i wanna do a tt setup |
11-12-08, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by snakebite01 i see you know about boost.. what h/c/i would you suggest?? i wanna do a tt setup | It's hard to beat the tfs top end kit. They have been proven time and again to produce great numbers. I'd prefer the f303 over what comes with the tfs top end kit, but it will do just fine. |
11-12-08, 08:27 PM
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11-12-08, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortThrow50 | that seems nice... thanks for the vid |
11-12-08, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by millhouse It's hard to beat the tfs top end kit. They have been proven time and again to produce great numbers. I'd prefer the f303 over what comes with the tfs top end kit, but it will do just fine. | great.. i'm thinking that's the kit i will put on.. and if i have the money i will get eagle pistons, rods, and crank, and a bottom block!!! |
11-13-08, 12:58 AM
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Wow you have a lot of cars :O |
11-13-08, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by snakebite01 great.. i'm thinking that's the kit i will put on.. and if i have the money i will get eagle pistons, rods, and crank, and a bottom block!!! |
Just be sure to not pot that rotating assembly in a stock block if you are for sure going to run any type of forced induction! If you don’t have the cash for everything, I’d suggest throwing the h/c/I on the stock block along with the turbo kit…..and building a stout bottom end while you have the funds. Once you have the bottom end ready to go, swap the h/c/I into you’re new block and crank up the boost! |
11-13-08, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ID89GT Wow you have a lot of cars :O | lol i try |
11-13-08, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by millhouse Just be sure to not pot that rotating assembly in a stock block if you are for sure going to run any type of forced induction! If you don’t have the cash for everything, I’d suggest throwing the h/c/I on the stock block along with the turbo kit…..and building a stout bottom end while you have the funds. Once you have the bottom end ready to go, swap the h/c/I into you’re new block and crank up the boost! | yeah,, i'm hoping to have all the money to get it all done at once so i don't have to do twice the amount of work.. |
11-13-08, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by snakebite01 that seems nice... thanks for the vid | no problem |
11-13-08, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortThrow50 no problem | where did you have that camera mounted?? |
11-13-08, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by snakebite01 where did you have that camera mounted?? | LOL. I should take a pic next time when i film my 347 stroker setup. I use painters tape and tape it in between the 2 back seat back rests. You would laugh if you saw what i did, but hey it works |
11-13-08, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortThrow50 LOL. I should take a pic next time when i film my 347 stroker setup. I use painters tape and tape it in between the 2 back seat back rests. You would laugh if you saw what i did, but hey it works |  haha it worked great,, i didn't see any flaws in the video.. i gotta try it. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode | 
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