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Old 11-19-08, 07:59 AM
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Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama in new audio message

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CAIRO,Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri insulted Barack Obama in the terror group's first reaction to his election, calling him a demeaning racial term implying that the president-elect is a black American who does the bidding of whites.
The message appeared chiefly aimed at persuading Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in U.S. policies. Al-Zawahri said in the message, which appeared on militant Web sites Wednesday, that Obama is "the direct opposite of honorable black Americans" like Malcolm X, the 1960s African-American rights leader.

Al-Zawahri also called Obama—along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice—"house negroes."

Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term "abeed al-beit," which literally translates as "house slaves." But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as "house negroes."

The message also includes old footage of speeches by Malcolm X in which he explains the term, saying black slaves who worked in their white masters' house were more servile than those who worked in the fields. Malcolm X used the term to criticize black leaders he accused of not standing up to whites.

The 11-minute 23-second video features the audio message by al-Zawahri, who appears only in a still image, along with other images, including one of Obama wearing a Jewish skullcap as he meets with Jewish leaders. In his speech, al-Zawahri refers to a Nov. 5 U.S. airstrike attack in Afghanistan, meaning the video was made after that date.

Al-Zawahri said Obama's election has not changed American policies he said are aimed at oppressing Muslims and others.

"America has put on a new face, but its heart full of hate, mind drowning in greed, and spirit which spreads evil, murder, repression and despotism continue to be the same as always," the deputy of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden said.

He said Obama's plan to shift troops to Afghanistan is doomed to failure, because Afghans will resist.

"Be aware that the dogs of Afghanistan have found the flesh of your soldiers to be delicious, so send thousands after thousands to them," he said.

Al-Zawahri did not threaten specific attacks, but warned Obama that he was "facing a Jihadi (holy war) awakening and renaissance which is shaking the pillars of the entire Islamic world; and this is the fact which you and your government and country refuse to recognize and pretend not to see."

He said Obama's victory showed Americans acknowledged that President George W. Bush's policies were a failure and that the result was an "admission of defeat in Iraq."

But Obama's professions of support for Israel during the election campaign "confirmed to the Ummah (Islamic world) that you have chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims," al-Zawahri said.
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Old 11-19-08, 08:36 AM
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Meh, surprised it took em that long...I don't really think it's even newsworthy to mention. The only time they should show it is when these effers decide they're all nuts and say "we were wrong, we'll stop"

IE: Don't ever show it.
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Old 11-19-08, 09:08 AM
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Old 11-19-08, 09:15 AM
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Good for him.

It's about time someone outside this nations borders insult the president elect. Now if he would just leave his transmitter on so we can trace his signal.
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Old 11-19-08, 09:20 AM
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CAIRO,Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri insulted Barack Obama in the terror group's first reaction to his election, calling him a demeaning racial term implying that the president-elect is a black American who does the bidding of whites. ....


Roves working for Al-Qaida now?
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Old 11-19-08, 09:20 AM
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What was the Messiah's response to this? He did say his top priority was the war in Iraq/afghanistan, right after his #1 issue of the economy, right behind his #1 topic of middle class tax cuts.
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Old 11-19-08, 09:21 AM
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Old 11-19-08, 01:07 PM
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What was the Messiah's

I find this whole 'Messiah' thing disturbing in its disrespect for Jesus.

But its been reported that Jesus Christ forgives all so I guess you (all) are safe.

And the 1st Amendment has survived somewhat intact so ... Carry On!




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What was Obamas response to this?
Fixt.

Does Al-Zawahri deserve a response? You Righties are the ones staunchly against dialog so it would surprise me if you believe the existence of Al-Zawahri and Al-Qaida are even to be acknowledged.

Playing along with the flip-flop, If Al-Zawahris statement is to be responded to shouldn't any response include pointing out how the only reason Al-Qaida continues to exist and grow is due to the blunders of the present Administration?

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Old 11-19-08, 01:10 PM
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Crawl out from under that rock.

Don't get testy, we aren't the ones who closed it.
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Old 11-19-08, 01:12 PM
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Al-Qaida needs to be careful! This is the sort of thing that could turn the far left against them.
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Don't get testy, we aren't the ones who closed it.
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On that note...
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Old 11-19-08, 01:18 PM
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Al-Qaida needs to be careful! This is the sort of thing that could turn the far left against them.
You're probably joking, but in case you were not, I don't think it's fair to say that the far left supported the 9/11 attacks
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Old 11-19-08, 01:29 PM
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You're probably joking, but in case you were not, I don't think it's fair to say that the far left supported the 9/11 attacks

Its a tactic, post something really out there so the stance can be throttled back to simply outrageous and thus become more believable.
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Old 11-19-08, 01:45 PM
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Wow Mark, didn't we just get this forum closed for partisan bashing? I see nothing in my original post that I said that was partisan bashing. I can only imagine hanging out with you working on a mustang. I'd bet it takes you 0-2 beers to start "rightie" bashing.
As far as the comment about the far left supporting al qaida, it could be because they refer to them as freedom fighters..
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As far as the comment about the far left supporting al qaida, it could be because they refer to them as freedom fighters..
And that's not partisan bashing?

Silliness.
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And that's not partisan bashing?

Silliness.
I was referring to the FAR left fringe. Not the left. But thank you for that thoughtful insight. Do you find it interesting that with a democratic president elect, some groups see us as returning to paper tiger status?

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You'll have to explain what a "paper tiger" is.
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You'll have to explain what a "paper tiger" is.
Something which seems as threatening as a tiger, but is actually harmless.

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Old 11-19-08, 03:33 PM
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Oh, that's fine as long as our nation is treated with "respect" on the world stage. I'd like us not to have to "crack skulls" to protect our interests abroad. I like broads BTW.
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As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry that was vital for the infants and the children and the civilians and blew up dams which were necessary for the crops people grew to feed their families. Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles of world leader and master of the new world order. After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order, and its politicians realized that those titles were too big for them and that they were unworthy of them. I was in Sudan when this happened. I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that America suffered, so was every Muslim. ...
Kind of like their opinion as we talk about pulling out of/unconditionally surrendering Iraq.

Oh, and does what those two say sound like they are respecting America?

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Kind of like their opinion as we talk about pulling out of/unconditionally surrendering Iraq.

Oh, and does what those two say sound like they are respecting America?
I expect no respect from extremists.

Again with the pulling out of Iraq = defeat.

Can we ever leave Iraq?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???
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Old 11-19-08, 05:01 PM
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He said Obama's victory showed Americans acknowledged that President George W. Bush's policies were a failure and that the result was an "admission of defeat in Iraq."
Just like Osama Bin Laden was emboldened by Bill Clinton staying true to form and pulling out early, al-Zawahri is encouraged by obama allowing a full defeat in Iraq. It's not me saying that pulling out of Iraq is a defeat(even though it is). It's the people that need a victory to rally the troops.

Kelly, just curious here. If we were to pull out of Iraq, what do you think would happen there within the next 2 years?

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Old 11-19-08, 05:28 PM
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Likely a coup.
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Isn't it against some kind of muslim cult rule
that muslims aren't supposed to insult each other?
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Old 11-19-08, 06:03 PM
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Likely a coup.
Do you think another country would end up taking over iraq?
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