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11-03-09, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chockostang I just voiced my opinion, We all Have this, the option to express.
I stand by that, Stock is better.
Seem there is a hostile enviroment toward Stock.
And Yes, I will express this when I see Someone PIMPING there Parts---Does that right a BELL dENNIS??
Dan Classic Mustang Disc Brake Conversions and Power Steering | Dan,
I wasn't being hostile towards you or factory-stock vintage brake parts. You stated your point of view and like you, I simply stated my rebuttal from the 'other side of the coin', since there's always two sides to every story.
You offer a service to the people who are looking for a stock disc brake system for their early Mustang/related Ford. By contrast, I offer components that allows the Mustang owner to adapt later model solutions to their car's existing spindles and rear ends, to enhance the stopping performance above what they could get with their stock brake systems.
Some people are only looking for stock setups. Some people want more. There's room enough in the brake market for all of us --and especially since we cater to two different types of consumers for the type of products each of us has to offer and for what they give the purchaser. | 
11-03-09, 07:51 PM
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Ultrastang, not Getting down on you, Unless you have a thing going with CRSP.
When I Expressed my interest in the stock setups Versus the Granada 2-3 Years ago on the Forums, Dennis Stated BOLDY, Several Times about us "PIMPING Our Products" on the Forums for Personal Gain.
Now What the H___ he is Doing, Promoting Dial Soap??
So Each opportunity I get to Promote our Original Systems VS other Disc Brake Setups, I Do.
Do I do this For Mustang Steve, Master Power, MBM, No, I Just have Time For Dennis, Yes Plenty of Time.
Dan
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11-03-09, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 1995cobraR ultrastang,
Thanks for the tech. It's obvious that chockostang may have a poor understanding of this subject.
I'd like some more tech on the Granada spindle. Why is it so much better than the 1970 Boss 302 spindle?
Here is my '70 big bearing spindle with Lincoln brakes, stock suspension (required by vintage racing rules), big cooling ducts, and a few other tricks:  | Other than only some minor differences, the Granada disc spindle is pretty much the same as the '69/'70 Boss 302 spindles or the non-Boss '70-'73 Mustang disc spindles.
One problem with using '70-'73 Mustang thick-pinned drum spindles, or '70-'73Mustang or Granada disc spindles on '65/'66 Mustangs is the greater potential of bumpsteer problems.
This is due to the fact that the '65/'66 Mustangs are 2" narrower than the '67-'70 Mustangs. The '67-'70 Mustangs share the same track width and front end geometry as the '75-'80 Granadas and '70-'77 Maverick/'71-'77 Comets with their thick-pinned drum and disc brake spindles. The balljoint angles and steering arm angles are different on the '67-'70 Mustang/Granada spindles vs. the '65/'66 Mustang spindles. This is where the potential bumpsteer issues comes from when these spindles are used on the '65/'66 models. | 
11-03-09, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chockostang Ultrastang, not Getting down on you, Unless you have a thing going with CRSP.
When I Expressed my interest in the stock setups Versus the Granada 2-3 Years ago on the Forums, Dennis Stated BOLDY, Several Times about us "PIMPING Our Products" on the Forums for Personal Gain.
Now What the H___ he is Doing, Promoting Dial Soap??
So Each opportunity I get to Promote our Original Systems VS other Disc Brake Setups, I Do.
Do I do this For Mustang Steve, Master Power, MBM, No, I Just have Time For Dennis, Yes Plenty of Time.
Dan Classic Mustang Disc Brake Conversions and Power Steering | mostly you're just a dick then right? | 
11-03-09, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chockostang Ultrastang, not Getting down on you, Unless you have a thing going with CRSP.
When I Expressed my interest in the stock setups Versus the Granada 2-3 Years ago on the Forums, Dennis Stated BOLDY, Several Times about us "PIMPING Our Products" on the Forums for Personal Gain.
Now What the H___ he is Doing, Promoting Dial Soap??
So Each opportunity I get to Promote our Original Systems VS other Disc Brake Setups, I Do.
Do I do this For Mustang Steve, Master Power, MBM, No, I Just have Time For Dennis, Yes Plenty of Time.
Dan Classic Mustang Disc Brake Conversions and Power Steering | I've had a couple of owners of much larger Mustang parts/brake supplier companies contact me for my information/insight/ideas on several projects that I have collaborated with them on in the development of components.
Through these mutual collaborations of ideas, we have come up with adaptive solutions that have been very successful. Does this suddenly make me a bad guy for working with others who came to me and who are in essence also my competitors as well?
I've [primarily] promoted a couple of other company's components long before we had anything to do with each other, --and I've also promoted people's products that I still have absolutely no ties to, for which I receive no monitary gain from them whatsoever for my promotion of their products.
If you're going to be a player in the market of selling Mustang/brake components/parts, you have to accept that you are always going to have competition. The sooner you accept this fact, the less stressful your life will be. You can't and won't be the only one doing what you are doing. It took me a while to figure this out. If you're lucky enough to partner up with someone else, then your potential horizons in what you can do and accomplish only becomes broader with the mutual gains it can bring and the resultant relationships it can forge.
Regardless of who works alone or who works with others, there will still be people who buy from you, from me, from CSRP, Mustang Steve, Baer, Wilwood, and the list goes on... As I said, there's room enough in the market place for all of us. Some of us sell stock conversion stuff. Some of us sell performance conversion stuff. ...Don't hate the player(s). Hate the game.
A bad attitude will kill your sales faster than any competition ever will.
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11-03-09, 11:26 PM
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A bad attitude will kill your sales faster than any competition ever will.
| I like the way you think! 
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11-04-09, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ultrastang A bad attitude will kill your sales faster than any competition ever will. | amen brother. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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