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Originally Posted by Strype

Wiki:
---The Israeli-occupied territories are the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. They are areas Israel captured from Jordan, and Syria during the Six-Day War.

Following Israel's capture of these territories, settlements consisting of Israeli citizens were established within each of them. Israel has applied civilian law to the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem, incorporating them into its territory and offering their inhabitants Israeli citizenship.

Most negotiations relating to the territories have been on the basis of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which calls on Israel to withdraw from occupied territories in return for normalization of relations with Arab states, a principle known as "Land for peace".---

That's right Israel is defying that UN resolution along with others pertaining to the illegal occupation. I would rule out using Wikipedia as a trustful or accurate source on this subject. This just in.
"What is the first place you turn to for finding information on the Internet? Encarta? Britannica? No! its Wikipedia!!!
And now, Wikipedia is under threat by CAMERA, the pro-israel organization, who wants to destroy any credibility Wikipedia has by distorting history on Palestine. They have a very detailed plan, which has been exposed, thanks to TheEI
A pro-Israel pressure group is orchestrating a secret, long-term campaign to infiltrate the popular online encyclopedia Wikipedia to rewrite Palestinian history, pass off crude propaganda as fact, and take over Wikipedia administrative structures to ensure these changes go either undetected or unchallenged.

Wikipedia Under Attack by Pro-Israel Groups Distorting Palestinian History The Internet Guy
Also relating to the SIX-DAY WAR-

Between February 1947 and March 1948, a final plan for ethnic cleansing was prepared.

The Zionist leadership defined 80 percent of Palestine (Israel today without the West Bank) as the space for the future state.

This was an area in which one million Palestinians lived next to 600,000 Jews.

The idea was to uproot as many Palestinians as possible. From March 1948 until the end of that year the plan was implemented despite the attempt by some Arab states to oppose it, which failed. Some 750,000 Palestinians were expelled, 531 villages were destroyed and 11 urban neighbourhoods demolished.

Half of Palestine's population was uprooted and half of its villages destroyed. The state of Israel was established in over 80 percent of Palestine, turning Palestinian villages into Jewish settlements and recreation parks, but allowing a small number of Palestinian to remain citizens in it.

The June 1967 war allowed Israel to take the remaining 20 percent of Palestine.

This seizure defeated in a way the ethnic ideology of the Zionist movement. Israel encompassed 100 percent of Palestine, but the state incorporated a large number of Palestinians, the people who Zionists made such an effort to expel in 1948.

The fact that Israel was let off easily in 1948, and not condemned for the ethnic cleansing it committed, encouraged it to ethnically cleanse a further 300,000 Palestinians from the West Bank and the Gaza strip.

Wiki

--Notorious for its suicide attacks and other attacks[2] on Israeli civilians and security forces, Hamas also runs extensive social programs[3] and has gained popularity in Palestinian society --

--Hamas' charter calls for the recapturing of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state in the area that is now named Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.[5] Hamas describes its conflict with Israel as political and not religious[6] or antisemitic.[7] However, its founding charter, writings, and many of its public statements[8] reflect the influence of antisemitic conspiracy theories.--


Another way to put it is this:

If "innocent" people have funded, elected and given power to a known TERRORIST ORGANIZATION then they aren't so innocent are they?

Again, one mans terrorist is another mans patriot. Israel has planned and implemented the ethnic cleansing of these people, and by their actions for over 60 yrs have tried to displace or kill the Palestinian population. Isn't it logical to assume that threats against Israel by Hamas are a direct result of what has been done to their people? In fact, the whole damn conflict is a result of the Zionist attempt to displace, and kill the indigenous
population.

I suppose that Iraq thumbing it's nose at the UN 17 times, or the invasion of Kuwait, or it's dictator's use of mustard gas against his own people had nothing to do with big bad America going into Iraq and "Occupying" that land either

Are you not aware of the fact that Israel is in violation of 68 UN resolutions?

Israel in violation of 68 UN Resolutions
And have you not heard of the massacres of the Palestinian refugee camps in the 80s
in Lebanon? The state of Israel is NOT as innocent as some are led to believe. And remember Israel pushed our lawmakers hard to go and fight in Iraq for them.

I'll never understand that line of thinking. As if everyone is "picking on" the poor suicide bombers. Those elected officials are bomb toting psychopaths who will kill everyone they can to force the Islamic religion upon everyone.

And the Israelis are saints? They are reaping what they have sown.

So THAT'S why I was paying $4.20 a gallon for gas!!!!!!

No we were paying 4.20 for gasoline because of the damned speculative markets, and some the financial companies that brought that about have gone bankrupt. It was on 60 minutes this past weekend.


Look if you want to learn something about Israel and the Palestinian conflict, then you can look at some video and read about Ilan Pape.

"Prominent Israeli academic and author Ilan Pape is openly critical of Israel. In his latest article, he called Israel's policies in the West Bank "ethnic cleansing" and felt safe to call their actions in Gaza "measured genocide".

Let us not forget that Ilan Pape is an Israeli and for him to accuse his own homeland of these things must be very hard indeed, and without a strong basis, I'm sure he would reduce the terms to something much weaker. Secondly, Ilan Pape has extensive experience of the conflict. He is a senior lecturer at the University of Haifa Department of political Science and Chair of the Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian Studies in Haifa.

A Powerful Voice: An Interview with Ilan Pape.

YouTube - The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Dr. Ilan Pappe - Part 1

YouTube - George Galloway & Ilan Pappe 1