
01-14-09, 02:09 PM
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For who ever may be interested, a few more videos with Ilan Pape, and related discussion where he describes the difference between Judaism and Zionism. I am amazed at the vast information that is out there. It really isn't as simple as what we have been led to believe. YouTube - Palestine History - Alan Hart with Ilan Pappe (part1) The Palestinians saw the Balfour Declaration as a European power deciding their fate, in disregard of their presence and wishes. In the 1920s as land was being stripped away from local residents, the first clashes began. In 1920-1931 even more Jewish settlers came. With Hitlers vicious persecution of Jews, the population doubled in 5 yrs. As the efforts of the Europeans to wash away their guilt, efforts increased to appease the Zionist agenda and create a Jewish homeland, even though the Palestinians were not the ones who persecuted them, the Palestinians were the ones who paid the price. The problem was transferred to the UN, and they unfairly split the land favoring the Jews despite them being the minority population, and owning less then 8% of the area. So they were given most of the land which happened to be the most fertile. So the Zionist took advantage and immediately began occupying major Palestinian cities and towns. There was a mass bumrush of peoples houses, and most fled for their lives. There was a systematic expulsion of Palestinians, and an ethnic cleansing operation taking place. The most infamous campaign at the time was the massacre
Dayr Yasin, where over 100 men, women and children were systematically murdered. One elderly women described the take over of her house, when the Israelis came they beat her father,
and she gave them money to stop, the Israeli solider, took the money, and as the man was on his knees, begging for his life, he shot him 5 times in the back of his head in front of his family. For those of you you insist that Israel was not an aggressor, you either don't know, or refuse to admit the truth. The Arab countries finally tried to intervene after 300,000 Palestinans were forced to flee. Arab soldiers were outnumbered 68,000 to 90,000, and Israel
had a vast military superiority. So much for the "miracle" of it's creation I think the miracle was that the world stood by
and allowed this genocide to happen. So the Israeli army took over the part of land that was designated for the Palestinians. Now the new state of Israel encompassed 78% of the total land designated for Palestine! The West Bank was controlled by Jordan, and Gaza
was controlled by Egypt. A truce was reached but now there were 700,000 refugees living in deplorable camps, some within eye sight of the homes their families lived in for generations. I guess I would have developed a hatred for Zionist also. Of 500 Palestinian villages
400 were destroyed. This was done in an effort to discourage any future hope the people might have of returning someday. The effort to prevent them from returning, were not approved by the UN,and Israel ignores this. A Palestinian who lost their land in 1948 can't even come back for a visit, where as a Jew who never stepped foot
over there ( IE. Khazars) can go there and be an Israeli citizen. YouTube - Historical Myths in Israel/Palestine (Occupation 101 Clip) YouTube - Occupation 101 - the root of the conflict "Our media portrays Mideast violence as though it's an inherent part of the culture and region, implying that the Israeli, Palestinian conflict is an ancient problem, with little hope of solution.
These mis-perceptions come from the fact that we are only hearing a fraction of the story. This video will show you images and testimony, largely hidden from mainstream America"- PART 1 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 1 PART 2 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 2 PART 3 YouTube - Occupation 101 part 3 PART 4 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 4 PART 5 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 5 PART 6 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 6 PART 7 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 7 PART 8 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 8 PART 9 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 9 PART 10 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 10 PART 11 YouTube - Occupation 101 Part 11
CHRISTIAN PRESENSE IN PALESTINE- YouTube - Christian presence in Palestine (Occupation 101 Movie Clip)
The only "miracle" I see, as some refer to this situation, is the level of ignorance we have had about this for so long.  I think for now I have been putting enough into this thread, it is at times exhausting
and heartbreaking. It is also discouraging to think that there is so much racism here. Maybe it is not intended, maybe it is because we have been conditioned to think this way, I don't know for sure. I try to put myself in these peoples shoes when I think about it. I find myself being more grateful for the blessings
I enjoy that I used to take for granted. I am glad I have not been dehumanized by the world, and I still have the ability to have compassion, and not become desensitized.
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