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11-04-09, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed  Suckers- 8,082
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.....so yea this thread just keeps coming back for no apparent reason, because we all must be intellectually incapable of researching sales numbers on our own..... |
11-04-09, 01:24 PM
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.....so yea this thread just keeps coming back for no apparent reason, because we all must be intellectually incapable of researching sales numbers on our own..... | That's alright. We'll give the Camaro 3 years of leading sales out of...how many? The only reason people are even buying that atrocity is because they missed it for 8 years. Next year, things will be back to "normal," with the Mustang leading the sales race once again. The only reason that car is even selling is because of hype. Once the hype dies down, so will the sales. The design is already stale. We've been seeing it since 2005-2006.
Mustang sales are down because everyone is waiting for the new 5.0L, or to see what happens for 2011. They aren't down because the current car isn't a good car. |
11-04-09, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed That's alright. We'll give the Camaro 3 years of leading sales out of...how many? The only reason people are even buying that atrocity is because they missed it for 8 years. Next year, things will be back to "normal," with the Mustang leading the sales race once again. The only reason that car is even selling is because of hype. Once the hype dies down, so will the sales. The design is already stale. We've been seeing it since 2005-2006.
Mustang sales are down because everyone is waiting for the new 5.0L, or to see what happens for 2011. They aren't down because the current car isn't a good car. | Doesn't really matter anyway. I mean at last count, if you round off, aren't the sales numbers since introduction something like 8 mil to 4 mil. In favor of Mustang. Seems the Camaro has a lot of catching up to do, hopefully GM will be in business long enough for that to happen, but only after they pay us, the taxpayers, back all the money they borrowed and wasted.  |
11-04-09, 08:18 PM
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Heres a bucket for all that crying  |
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11-04-09, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast05 Doesn't really matter anyway. I mean at last count, if you round off, aren't the sales numbers since introduction something like 8 mil to 4 mil. In favor of Mustang. Seems the Camaro has a lot of catching up to do, hopefully GM will be in business long enough for that to happen, but only after they pay us, the taxpayers, back all the money they borrowed and wasted. | The only reason I even care if GM stays afloat is because I have a (real) Camaro. Otherwise, I couldn't care less what happened to them. |
11-04-09, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 | Wishfull thinking IMO. Let's just wait and see how the Camaro holds up during the next year...not to mention GM. And if it were to be introduced GM would be infringing on Corvette prices. Actually wouldn't be surprised if they passed them. Now that, my friend, would be sad. |
11-05-09, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SS02 Heres a bucket for all that crying | I didn't see anyone crying...just pointing out the obvious. If we wanted Camaro sales numbers I'm sure we're all quite capable of finding them ourselves. You don't need to keep pointing out the fact that your transformer car is outselling the Mustang. We get the point already.  |
11-05-09, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast05 I didn't see anyone crying...just pointing out the obvious. If we wanted Camaro sales numbers I'm sure we're all quite capable of finding them ourselves. You don't need to keep pointing out the fact that your transformer car is outselling the Mustang. We get the point already. |
LMAO......it is funny to see posts on other websites like, "I swear my car transformed" or "Me and Bumblebee were hanging out yesterday" |
11-05-09, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast05 Wishfull thinking IMO. Let's just wait and see how the Camaro holds up during the next year...not to mention GM. And if it were to be introduced GM would be infringing on Corvette prices. Actually wouldn't be surprised if they passed them. Now that, my friend, would be sad. | It couldn't be any sadder than GM giving birth to the atrocity they already have. BTW, I saw an article that the Z28 is going to weigh a whole 300 lbs less than the 4300 lb CTS-V. Do the math. LOL! Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast05 I didn't see anyone crying...just pointing out the obvious. If we wanted Camaro sales numbers I'm sure we're all quite capable of finding them ourselves. You don't need to keep pointing out the fact that your transformer car is outselling the Mustang. We get the point already. | Another bold move by GM; produce two two-hour commercials for GM cars and call it "Transformers." That's okay, because any fan of the original Transformers knows that the original Bumble Bee was a VW Beetle. Anyway, it was a smart move to advertise the Camaro to a bunch of 11 and 12 year old boys. Maybe 14 years from now they'll have $30,000 to spend on a car! 
Don't even get me started on the "Transformers Edition" Camaro. That's kinda in the same category as the pink "Mary Kay" Cadillac. |
11-05-09, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing LMAO......it is funny to see posts on other websites like, "I swear my car transformed" or "Me and Bumblebee were hanging out yesterday" | How original! I bet that line works on all the girls; the ones still wearing stone-washed jeans, tye-dye shirts, and "poofs" in their hair. Let's not forget the soda-can tabs on their purse-straps, either.
Did anyone catch the new article in Motor Trend about the Hennessey Camaro, packed with 600+ rwhp, that couldn't muster better than an 11.90 1/4 mile? It must be that 4000 lbs!
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11-05-09, 10:02 PM
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That stupid Transformer movie is one of the things that I hate most about the new camaro.
And the WORST thing is, you would THINK that the people having the camaro's would try to distance themselves and their cars and that dumba$$ movie. But nope, not at all, they EMBRACE IT.
It's like embracing the WWF. It's like embracing Hannah Montana.
Your car is a cartoon in a movie....a dumb, teenage movie. Distance yourself from it...run from it. People have given you that mullet label through the years and you never could get past that, so please. for the love of all that is good and holy in this world, step away from the Transformer crap. |
11-05-09, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by verbwiser That stupid Transformer movie is one of the things that I hate most about the new camaro.
And the WORST thing is, you would THINK that the people having the camaro's would try to distance themselves and their cars and that dumba$$ movie. But nope, not at all, they EMBRACE IT.
It's like embracing the WWF. It's like embracing Hannah Montana.
Your car is a cartoon in a movie....a dumb, teenage movie. Distance yourself from it...run from it. People have given you that mullet label through the years and you never could get past that, so please. for the love of all that is good and holy in this world, step away from the Transformer crap. | I totally agreed with you until you started with the dumb "mullet" crap... 
Get over it with the mullets already. Just as many Mustang owners in the 1980s had mullets, and I won't even stoop so low as to jab at the "5 point 0" for being every Vanilla Ice fan's wet dream. So, please, just give the mullet jokes a rest. The cheese is really, really old and moldy. |
11-05-09, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed I totally agreed with you until you started with the dumb "mullet" crap... Get over it with the mullets already. Just as many Mustang owners in the 1980s had mullets, and I won't even stoop so low as to jab at the "5 point 0" for being every Vanilla Ice fan's wet dream. So, please, just give the mullet jokes a rest. The cheese is really, really old and moldy. | I agree. Although I never heard that one about the Mustang. It must not have been as popular as the mullet saying. |
11-05-09, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanMike I agree. Although I never heard that one about the Mustang. It must not have been as popular as the mullet saying. | Dunno how old you are, Mike, but Vanilla Ice was very popular with the "5 point 0" back around 1990-1992. In his song, "Ice Ice Baby," there was a clip where he says, "Rollin' in my 5 point 0 with the ragtop down so my hair can blow." If you saw the video, it's even more comical than the song itself.
Honestly, if I'm not mistaken, it was that song that coined the name, "5 point 0," for the Mustang GT. I can remember everyone saying, "I want a 5 point 0," and it was widely known the reference was to the Mustang GT. The nickname was so popular, Ford probably could have dropped the "Mustang" name and called it the "5 point 0."
Ironically enough, Chevy's Camaro had an actual "5.0L" engine, yet nobody referred to it as a "5 point 0." Good thing for us Camaro fans! 
Anyway, scroll to "1:36" to see Vanilla "rollin' in his 5 Point 0." YouTube - Ice Ice Baby |
11-05-09, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed Dunno how old you are, Mike, but Vanilla Ice was very popular with the "5 point 0" back around 1990-1992. In his song, "Ice Ice Baby," there was a clip where he says, "Rollin' in my 5 point 0 with the ragtop down so my hair can blow." If you saw the video, it's even more comical than the song itself.
Honestly, if I'm not mistaken, it was that song that coined the name, "5 point 0," for the Mustang GT. I can remember everyone saying, "I want a 5 point 0," and it was widely known the reference was to the Mustang GT. The nickname was so popular, Ford probably could have dropped the "Mustang" name and called it the "5 point 0."
Ironically enough, Chevy's Camaro had an actual "5.0L" engine, yet nobody referred to it as a "5 point 0." Good thing for us Camaro fans!
Anyway, scroll to "1:36" to see Vanilla "rollin' in his 5 Point 0." YouTube - Ice Ice Baby | Lol! That is pretty gay. For your question about my age, I would have been a 13 year's old back then. |
11-05-09, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanMike Lol! That is pretty gay. For your question about my age, I would have been a 13 year's old back then. | Well, given the choice between the "mullet" reputation and the "Vanilla Ice car" reputation, I think I'll take the "mullet"....PROUDLY. |
11-06-09, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed Well, given the choice between the "mullet" reputation and the "Vanilla Ice car" reputation, I think I'll take the "mullet"....PROUDLY. | I dunno....Vanilla Ice is pretty cool... |
11-06-09, 10:41 AM
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ALL camaros suck, why? Because they're made by GM and GM sucks. Some might say (ss02) "camaros are faster than your mustang" I don't care, camaros are pieces of s***
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The 02 Camaro SS are badass too. |
11-06-09, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 02GTRX ALL camaros suck, why? Because they're made by GM and GM sucks. Some might say (ss02) "camaros are faster than your mustang" I don't care, camaros are pieces of s***
Posted via Mobile Device | GM made some of the best Muscle Cars of the 60s and 70s, and lest you forget, they also made the Buick Grand National/GNX and 1989 Pontiac Turbo T/A; both of which would smoke your Mustang, and they're over 20 years old.
Oh, and BTW, GM's never had to recall or buy back their vehicles because they haven't made advertised horsepower claims. Yeah, that's right; the 1999 Cobra got recalled and received "the fix" because they didn't make the advertised hp claims, while Mazda (Ford) offered to buy back models of the RX-8 that didn't meet hp claims.
Oh, and another thing. Doesn't GM build the Corvette? Why, yes they do; ALL of which models will tear up ANYTHING Ford has to offer, including the GT500. Go ahead, bring up the Ford GT from 2004-2006. The Ford GT was undoubtedly one of the most highly advanced cars to come out of Ford, yet with all that technology, they barely stayed ahead of the Viper and C6 Z06.
So, all being said, that's okay that GM sucks. They still build the best domestic sports car on the planet. They also build (not for long...) the best sport sedan on the planet (G8). Their trucks are rated as some of the best trucks built today, along with their SUVs.
I don't think (the majority of...) GM cars suck, I think their management sucks. Ford wouldn't do any better with a bunch of idiots running the company.
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11-06-09, 12:42 PM
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Yeah, despite your opinion, which clearly I don't care for, GM still sucks.
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11-06-09, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 02GTRX Yeah, despite your opinion, which clearly I don't care for, GM still sucks.
Posted via Mobile Device | Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me, kinda like you've lost to your fair share of GMs. Want me to race you with the air conditioner on and the e-brake up? Maybe you'll feel better. |
11-07-09, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me, kinda like you've lost to your fair share of GMs. Want me to race you with the air conditioner on and the e-brake up? Maybe you'll feel better. | Now now, can't we all just get along? Hell you'd probably smoke my Mustang, and that's cool with me, I liked the 4th gen Camaros. And you're exactly right when it comes to management, having a great lineup of products doesnt mean much when you've got a bunch of bufoons running the company. You can like or hate GM all you want, but if it wasn't for the Camaro our Mustang would have no competition thus Ford wouldn't be in any hurry to be making it any better. |
11-07-09, 03:55 PM
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Just because your car may be faster than mine in a straight line doent make it better. Its still a GM and GM is crap, so goodluck with your piece of crap GM. I enjoy my 2008 mustang even more knowing you can't do the same with a camaro.
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