CBAZA!

pirotec354 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-05-09, 07:55 PM

Anyone know a good place to go to get a read up on the cbaza strategy that is pretty in depth. Id like to know as much as I could about it. Thanks
-Justin

tealstang67 · #2 (**permalink**) 08-05-09, 08:28 PM

i have picked up some info over at eectuning.org

**blksn955.o** · #3 (**permalink**) 08-05-09, 08:58 PM

Search on here actually is a good place to start. Since this tuning area was created a lot of the tuning info was moved here I have not gone to the eectuning forum in years. With the focus on our years already it just cuts down on the filtering out the A9 stuff. If your just starting I would read the basics of the tuning guide sticky and pick items to search on from beginning things to more complex things. There is a wealth of info Grady and Wes have posted.

1. Getting started.
2. MAF, injector, timing and how it works in our eec.
3. Go from there in what area you want to research. From driveability, WOT, N/A, boost, N2O, and idle.

final5-0 · #4 (**permalink**) 08-05-09, 10:49 PM

Hello Justin

The tuning sites have TONS of good info which will get you started

Yes ... There is a good bit of info here

BUT
Not a whole lot of ... in depth info ... has been dealt with here ........

in the past year or so

Now ... if you go back 2 to 3 years ago

Many peeps were talkin tunin 94-95 Stangs quite a bit back then

You can find info on all three 94-95 forums

Use the link in my sig for some basic tuning info

The software used on that site is older software
but
You REALLY don't care about software

cuz
What you REALLY wanna know is how the pcm works

Wes has some really good stuff here and on his site

Good Luck

Grady

**Stanger007** · #5 (**permalink**) 08-06-09, 03:09 PM

Post up any specific questions that you've got that you can't find the answer to over on eectuning.org. CBAZA is a bit of a redheaded stepchild. It was the stepping stone from the super simple Fox PCMs to the EECV and beyond stuff.

That being said, most of the stuff (especially the concepts) you read on the Foxbodies (A9L/GUFB) will apply.

The CBAZA cars use the concept of Load much more than the Foxes so you pick up the ability to pull some nifty tricks and fine tuning but with that comes some complexity.

I think the best way to learn nowadays is to get a QuarterHorse and BinaryEditor so you can make changes while the car is running and see what they do in realtime.

Wes

pirotec354 · #6 (**permalink**) 08-07-09, 12:23 PM

Thanks alot guys for your responses. Ive already got a quarterhorse and BE/EA and ive been reading alot since Ive gotten it. I really love learning about this stuff but there is a few things that I just cant seem to grasp. Like transient fueling for example (tau). I know what it is but I dont have any idea how it works and how its tuned in with a setup.

And I have also heard that cbaza is the redheaded stepchild bc its so close to eec-v computers. Im just glad i'll be learning on one of the more complex strategies

lol. But anyways, like grady said, Im really looking into knowing how the eec works and how it "thinks" so to speek.

Im also on eectuning and there is a lot of good info over there, its just so much searching through post and topics. Just b/c theres so many since its been around so long. But that really is a good thing.

But thanks again guys for the info and responses. I really appreciate it.

-Justin

**Stanger007** · #7 (**permalink**) 08-07-09, 12:52 PM

You'll hit the transient fueling after your establish a solid MAF curve in steady state. I shoot for no more than 3% variation all the way up.

Once that is squared away you'll verify your manifold volume is correct and then work on the transients.

Transient fueling is complicated but in a nutshell it represents the fuel trapped on the wall - to go about tuning it you'll log the X/Y axis of the table to approximate your location and log your wideband or narrowbands (which are quick to switch) and do various tip ins and adjust the amount and duration of the transient shot to keep the fueling stable.

It's a bit of logging but overall most combos start off fairly close. Just know that you will do it towards the end of the tune, it isn't a crutch to cover other issues (like an out of wack MAF curve).

Wes