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09-07-09, 03:51 PM
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They should keep the 4.6l instead of going with a 6cyl with 315hp and add the 5.0 to the lineup. Otherwise its going to be expensive to own a 8cyl mustang. |
09-07-09, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorn  They should keep the 4.6l instead of going with a 6cyl with 315hp and add the 5.0 to the lineup. Otherwise its going to be expensive to own a 8cyl mustang. | From what others have said on this forum is that the 5.0 is replacing the 4.6 and the 5.4 so it's not going to cost Ford any more money to build it, in fact their cost should go down since they're just building 1 engine for several applications rather than 2 engines. |
09-07-09, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast05 Well then I'll sleep better knowing my Mustang isn't the only fat girl in the club  | This is true, but those fat girls have a little bit more "meat" under their tops.  |
09-07-09, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Speed Isn't the 4.6L aluminum? | yeah it is.. but this engine might not be heavier and could even be lighter we don't know yet.. just because the displacement is slightly larger does not mean it has to be heavier.. |
09-08-09, 07:48 PM
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| | 2011 Ford Mustang specs hit the Web
This link states the 2011 mustang kept up with the BMW M3, despite having a 200lb weight DISAdvantage. The BMW weighs 3704Lbs....Yikes..the Mustang may tip 3900Lbs !!
The current GT weighs in at 3553...is it possible that the new mustang is gaining nearly 350lbs !!!
Or was the wording messed up in the evaluation and ment to say the BMW M3 had a 200lb Weight disadvantage, although only weighing 150lbs more than a 2010 model GT. Better hope its the latter version.
BMW M3 Specs http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
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09-08-09, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 | Looks like I'll be buying a 2010 model. D@mned if I'm going to buy a 4000 lb Muscle Car. Not gonna happen. |
09-10-09, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 | The only thing this article does is speculate and say what we've all been speculating on this forum for the past 6 months. I'll wait until Ford releases specs, not someone from "the inside" |
09-16-09, 12:46 AM
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The 5.0 may very well be lighter, I have heard speculation of being 25-50 lbs lighter but can't remember where i read that info. It can be lighter simply because it is a whole new design. Using current finite element analysis on computers designs, material can be shaved off the block where not needed to save weight without sacrificing strength. However, i expect it to gain 50-100 lbs total on the new car. Still 3600lbs with 400 hp, I could live with that |
09-16-09, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Stangdriver13 The 5.0 may very well be lighter, I have heard speculation of being 25-50 lbs lighter but can't remember where i read that info. It can be lighter simply because it is a whole new design. Using current finite element analysis on computers designs, material can be shaved off the block where not needed to save weight without sacrificing strength. However, i expect it to gain 50-100 lbs total on the new car. Still 3600lbs with 400 hp, I could live with that | I could live with that. I'd just remove the back seats, spare tire/jack, and get a fiberglass hood.  |
09-16-09, 10:13 PM
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Ive been thinking of why the article I posted said that the mustang was so heavy, the only conclusion I can come up with is....maybe...just maybe the new mustang has finally encorporated IRS. I mean, the article says it was running the same times as the new BMW M3.... I mean just by adding a 85 hp and 75tq isnt going to shave such times down. Only handling and a good tire setup will accomplish this. We already know that Ford is going to offer "Stickier" Tires in the new Track pack....but maybe the big secret is an all new IRS setup..which would explain a 3900lb curb weight. What do you guys think ? |
09-16-09, 11:52 PM
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I think I like my live axle, pair it up with a 400hp 5.0 and a 6spd manual, keep it under 3700lbs and that would be a sweet mustang |
09-17-09, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast05 I think I like my live axle, pair it up with a 400hp 5.0 and a 6spd manual, keep it under 3700lbs and that would be a sweet mustang | I'd love to see an IRS setup but they're too heavy if you can't cut weight elsewhere. Not only that, but it's not like the IRS setup on the '03-'04 Cobras was any great shakes. They suffered from some pretty bad wheel-hop and bounced around in the corners, too. They might as well have had a live-axle setup.
But, yeah, 400 hp and under 3700 lbs would be fine. I'd just have to find someplace on that car to remove 200-300 lbs without gutting the entire interior. As for the car itself, my choice would be the Deluxe GT with the 5spd and the Track Pack with the 3.73s. I can get the Track Pack on the Deluxe if I special order factory-direct. The only problem with doing this is that the Track Pack comes with the upgraded 19 inch wheels. Personally, I like the stock 18s that come on them.  |
09-17-09, 08:44 AM
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Now 300hp out of a V6 is more like it
The extra 100hp of the 5.0 would be nice but where can you go to exploit it!!! |
09-17-09, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Toms_2003_Stang Now 300hp out of a V6 is more like it
The extra 100hp of the 5.0 would be nice but where can you go to exploit it!!! | Provided the 2011 Mustang doesn't pork out like the rumor has it, it would probably be quite capable of running in the high 13s, and with 300 lbs less weight, even with 300 hp, it would take out the V6 Camaro. |
09-19-09, 04:37 PM
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09-19-09, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 | Sounds like Ford's pretty serious. |
09-22-09, 02:54 AM
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so anyone think this 5.0 is going to be a more thirsty engine ?? |
09-22-09, 03:13 AM
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I sure hope the GT isn't an ecoboost. I was thinking about upgrading if the 5.0 is released, but I'll never buy a mustang that sounds like a diesel. |
09-22-09, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by aggieforester05 I sure hope the GT isn't an ecoboost. I was thinking about upgrading if the 5.0 is released, but I'll never buy a mustang that sounds like a diesel. | My thoughts:
It was probably a 5.0 with dual exhaust routed out one side to throw people off. I highly highly doubt we will see the ecoboost engine in a mustang for several reasons: It's an expensive engine and Mustang GT fans (at least like me) would much rather prefer a N/A big V8 over a blown V6 that sounds like rice. My expectations for new engines next year are probably going to be the 3.7L V6 base and 5.0 V8 GT, who knows where they'll take the GT500. |
09-22-09, 08:08 PM
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^^^ Well my only concern is that the new Boss Mustang is scheduled to release in 2011 also.... Maybe the 5.0 is going to be reserved for specialty models.
V6 - 3.7lt 280 hp
GT - 3.5lt 365-385 hp Eco Boost
Boss - 5.0lt 400-430hp |
09-22-09, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 ^^^ Well my only concern is that the new Boss Mustang is scheduled to release in 2011 also.... Maybe the 5.0 is going to be reserved for specialty models.
V6 - 3.7lt 280 hp
GT - 3.5lt 365-385 hp Eco Boost
Boss - 5.0lt 400-430hp | Possibly. I can't think of a time when Ford bumped power in a specific model 85 HP from one year to the next. From the beginning of all the 5.0 rumors I always thought in my head they'd reserve it for Boss, Mach 1, Bullit, etc. Who knows what they'll do tho, maybe they'll surprise us. |
09-22-09, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 ^^^ Well my only concern is that the new Boss Mustang is scheduled to release in 2011 also.... Maybe the 5.0 is going to be reserved for specialty models.
V6 - 3.7lt 280 hp
GT - 3.5lt 365-385 hp Eco Boost
Boss - 5.0lt 400-430hp | OR:
Base - 2.0L 275hp EcoBoost
GT - 3.5L 365 385hp EcoBoost
Boss - 5.0L 400 - 430 hp
Shelby - 5.0L S/C ???hp |
09-23-09, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SS02 ^^^ Well my only concern is that the new Boss Mustang is scheduled to release in 2011 also.... Maybe the 5.0 is going to be reserved for specialty models. | That is what I have been saying.
With nothing comfirmed yet I'm pretty sure the line up will be similar to this:
V6 3.7L 250HP
V8 4.6L 315HP
Boss 5.0L 400HP
Eco-Boost will not be seen in a Mustang for a while if ever.
If the 5.0L WAS to replace the 4.6L I'm pretty sure the ecomony has pushed that back. And IF the EB was suppose to happen too, which I highly doubt, I'm sure the ecomony has something to do with it too. |
09-23-09, 09:41 PM
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09-23-09, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by snaggeltooth so anyone think this 5.0 is going to be a more thirsty engine ?? | Definitely not; at least for "regular" driving. Obviously it takes more fuel to make more hp but I can't see highway cruising at 70mph getting anything less than identical mileage if not better. Now if you were on a race track using all that power then fuel economy would drop. Also, I am sure the car will arrive with a 6 speed that will drop revs by 500-800 rpm so hwy mpg should go up if anything.
I just hope the articles are right that this car is 200 pounds lighter than the M3 so it comes in at 3,500 pounds or so.
Lastly, I'd like to see larger brakes on all four corners.
Oh the waiting for formal announcement.
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