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The setup worked....like a mofo. Dang that brushless pushes some air. Was trying to do ...
There is now a brushless mSR flying around and the double brushless is working too but needs a less powerful tail motor cause the one he is using has too much thrust.
There is now a brushless mSR flying around and the double brushless is working too but needs a less powerful tail motor cause the one he is using has too much thrust.
meh.....
I equate this to trying to soup up a Caviler. Still just a Caviler.
Wake me up when we start talking about 12 cell setups in FlyBarless helis making ~5-6 horsepower.
I want to fly so bad!!! Its sitting there.... mocking me.
I am too scared to crash it and break the tail motor or blade grips and dont have the tools with me to do the pre fixes before I dammage them so its keeping me from flying.
The post man saw me leaving this morning and stopped me on the road to give me the box. Hes a helicopter RC guy too and knew I was waiting for mine.
Also the place forgot to include my four extra batteries so I contacted them to get that resolved.
I cant get over how tiny it is! You see the you tube stuff and think its a little bigger but then you hold it and its just so damn tiny! I cant wait to get home and fly it!
I have been. I have flown for 8 charges now and only had one crash. Thing hauls ass! Was heading for the window at flank speed with the AC vent helping. I just cut power and let it come down. Not a scratch.
OK. This is my first flight at home. Just got done making the case and the batteries are charged. Even with the AC blowing it is quite stable. Yes I am a n00b though and do make mistakes so dont make too much fun of the video.
I have to say this little mSR is responsable for keeping me in this hobby. I havent messed with my 450 for a few weeks cause I was waiting for parts. So I have been playing with the msr and really enjoying myself. Oddly enough the repeated flying of the mSR has helped me with my 450 as I am still very much a n00b.
So my 450 parts came in and I took it outside to practice hovering with it again. Well I had too much pitch dialed in and making a small adjustment lifted the bird 8' off the ground in my car port (slight wind today) and carried it towords me. I had a choice. Hit me, hit my Lincoln (I would have hit me before the car LOL) or hit my tool rack....
So I pick up my tools and heli and see I bent the flybar, feathering shaft, broke some links, gouged the head, destroyed the blades, stripped main gear, broke a tail boom support and cracked the landing gear.
Fortunatly I ordered several of most parts, I have more in parts then the purchase of the heli.
So I stare at the dammage and think about fixing it and selling it. Then I see my little mSR sitting there ready to go. I load a battery and just hover it for a couple minutes and am in awe of how nice it just sits there, not a care in the world. So I start some pirouetts and faster circuits... slam it into a wall, check the swash and throw it back into the air for another minute before the battery dies. Slap another battery in and have some more fun, pick it up a couple times and hand launch it. I spend the next couple batteries hovering it with the celing fan on low to practice in some wind. Got it pretty still too. What a great little heli.
So that got me to fix my 450 and go try again. Trimmed it out and hovered it in the car port only setting down twice to calm myself and stop over correcting. It didnt crash so I will keep going with it.
Damnit Bill, your making it harder than it has to be. I could reasonable hover indefinitely in a carport...BUT YOU CAN'T. DON'T TRY.......
The mSR may be responsible for keeping you in the hobby, but your responsible for trying to drive yourself out!!!!
Do yourself a favor and go find a field to practice the 450 on. Nothing smaller than a Baseball diamond.
Ugh, you are right. After I got it back together I went to the front yard and hovered it at eye level for a few minutes and it was great...... untill the heli got possesed.
It yawed straight back and headed straight to me. I had only tail controll. I ducked and it was going towards the truck (120' away) so I gave a tad bit of power and it wobbled around and shot straight up (but wobbley) and took off for my field. I had no contoll at all. When its nose pointed straight down I just cut the power at 25' and then walked out to the field to pick up the parts.
The heli had the tail sticking straight up inthe air and the nose was planted a couple inches in the soft ground. Only bent a feathering shaft and busted my training gear.
Turns out it was yet again my fault. One servo link I adjusted had only unscrewed from one side so it was holding on by 1 0r 2 threads and pulled out from the servos link. So the swash plate was moving up and down with no input.
Its fixed and I will go out to the back most field latter today as long as the wind stays dead after I am done fixing my car.
At least out there there is nothing to hit. The heli hovers 100x better at eye level then 2' up anyway.
Rookie, your help has been invaluable and on some things it seems like I am being hard headed but really I am not. I am using all your info. My car port is the only place thats smooth and completly out of the wind. Thats the only place I can slide the heli around so I can trim it and get used to the controols again. It has been a few weeks since I flew itand I just wanted to make sure it was setup right and that I could controll it then I was planning on going out back untill I screwed it up.
OMG! That was so much fun!!
I took the 450 out to an open area and had at it. I was much more relaxed and brought it up to 6' and held it there for the entire battery! I know its nothing but I am very proud of myself for not setting it down once or getting too out of shape. I kept it within a 6-7' circle the whole time and this was with 3-5 MPH constant breeze. I did over correct once and almost hit myself but I brought it back and spent the last two minutes of hovering with my knees shacking.
I loaded the second battery and again hovered it at 6'. After 4 minutes this damn mosquito on my left hand just wouldnt stop sucking blood and was getting very fat then it started to itch. I went to wipe my right hand quickly on my jeans but smacked the throttle and up she went to find the stronger wind. This time I kepst cool and stableized it, turned it around and brought it back to me. I landed gently, caught my breath and figured I would hover for another minute since I had plenty battery life left. All in all it was a pretty good time with it.
I then brought my mSR outside for the first time and flew the hell out of it. What an amazing lettler helicopter. The wind hardly messed with it at all and there were no crashes at all for both batteries.
I really like this hobby.
this thread of yours is starting to make it grow on me! what is the approx. signal range of the mSR?
Farther then you could see it.
There have been some cameras on them but they are not real time. The transmiters weigh too much and the little heli has a hard enough time lifting that extra 10 grams. Gotta remember they are under and ounce total weight. I really dig this little thing and I bet the Walkera 4G3 would have just annoyed me.
There have been some cameras on them but they are not real time. The transmiters weigh too much and the little heli has a hard enough time lifting that extra 10 grams. Gotta remember they are under and ounce total weight. I really dig this little thing and I bet the Walkera 4G3 would have just annoyed me.
ive never played with RC stuff before and it seems theyre quite difficult to control haha. this might be a disaster if i invest in this!
My 6ch...my Honeybee KingII....well since I've had it, I've replaced the main blades one time. I did put a HH gyro in it....and replaced the tail servo when it failed, but not from a crash.
That's how gentle I have flown it, because I know my limits on it.
Altho I did put the brushless on it and stripped the main gear because I tried to align the mesh by eye...which I apparently did not have.
Well had I started off with a lesser, smaller, less powerful heli with all plastic parts then I prolly would have had less repairs and it prolly wouldnt have gotten away from me so much. In hind sight I kinda wish I had. I thought stronger parts would equal more durability but I was wrong, **** happens.
I enjoyed the hell out of it today in an open area and look foreward to flying it more on wed.
I did the same thing with RC boats. Started with a cheap little Kyosho Viper running on 8 cells (Nicad) that would do 15 mph and got bored. So I bought a hydro and threw dual 45k rpm (at 14v) motors on it and 16 cells running 20 volts. I swam allot that week and then got something more controllable, a Gentry Eagle replica running three jet drives and it would do 43 mph (radar gun). It got me good enough to re try the Hydro and I got pretty damn good with it. Got that 26" boat to do 58 mph.
I just today hit the turning point with my 450 and learned a vast open area allows me to be more confident with it and that allows me to make fewer mistakes. I enjoy my 7 minute flights more when I dont have to spend 2 hours repairing it.
I have crashed my MSR over a hundred times and only had to make minimal repairs so far.
These little helicopters are a lot of fun and very durable!
it seems that all the parts are cheap enough to order. the problem would be making it worth while to make a purchase. you might as well buy a ton of replacement parts the first time you break something!
I keep spares of: main grips, landing skids, tail rotor, main rotor blades, and swash bar
The parts are cheap but can be hard to find in stores.
The RTF kit has a nice little controller. It took me a couple days to figure out how to put the controller in easy mode. It makes it much easier to fly.
Last edited by Kilgore Trout; 11-09-09 at 08:29 AM.
I just today hit the turning point with my 450 and learned a vast open area allows me to be more confident with it and that allows me to make fewer mistakes. I enjoy my 7 minute flights more when I dont have to spend 2 hours repairing it.
Ta-Da!
Told you so!
I had a bunch of fun Sunday with the fleet. I still favor the Protos for the sound, the lightness and the quickness. I worked on a big air moves and just high speed. I need to get a radar gun at the field some time.....I'm betting I'm hitting ~70-80 mph on the deck.
Got a bit better "cutting the grass" with the 450. Granted, we don't really have "Grass" per say.......more like cutting the tumble weed...... Got in there a few time, and have quite a few marks on my blades, but was able to trim a few inches while inverted without crashing. It's nerve racking to say the least....get just above it inverted, and then keep lowering it until you hear and see the blades hitting the debris.....then hold and pull out without crashing!!!!
I'm really digging the planks too.....I'm going to have to pick up a more powerful plane....there was a nice P-51 kit that the hobby shop had that looks inticing......
Glad to hear you digging it Bill...keep at it.....
So the swash plate was moving up and down with no input. 
Linear Mode
