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09-18-09, 05:17 PM
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09-20-09, 07:31 AM
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why is it always racism against his skin color? Its as if that is the only racism that there is. What if someone is racist towards obama but not b/c of his skin but b/c of his religion.
If someone came out and said your a loser liar and I hate you b/c of your religion the next thing we would hear is your a racist b/c hes black!! |
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10-01-09, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom351R  why is it always racism against his skin color? Its as if that is the only racism that there is. What if someone is racist towards obama but not b/c of his skin but b/c of his religion.
If someone came out and said your a loser liar and I hate you b/c of your religion the next thing we would hear is your a racist b/c hes black!! |  
Obviously you need to look up racism in the dictionary. |
10-01-09, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jikelly | So then its just a coincidence that strom thurmond was one of wilson's heroes? |
10-01-09, 06:32 AM
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RedFox, are you honestly trying to make "You Lie" into a racist statement? Have you gotten into the wine coolers again? |
10-01-09, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT So then its just a coincidence that strom thurmond was one of wilson's heroes? | Or, I dunno, maybe it was the fact that Thurmond was in SC politics for more than half a century, you know, South Carolina, where Wilson lives and is in politics. Thurmond was an enormous political figure in South Carolina, and to say that Wilson is racist because one of his hero's was Strom Thurmond...well, that is just ignorant. Please PLEASE explain to us how when Democrats called George Bush a liar, it was somehow okay, and meant you were taking an active stance in your political position, but when a Republican from SC calls Barack Obama a liar...RACIST RACIST RACIST
Please, STFU with your race card throwing babble... |
10-01-09, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT So then its just a coincidence that strom thurmond was one of wilson's heroes? | correct me if i am wrong, but wasnt thurmond a democrat? and if so then how does that make wilson a racist if thurmond was a hero of wilsons? |
10-01-09, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rbohm correct me if i am wrong, but wasnt thurmond a democrat? and if so then how does that make wilson a racist if thurmond was a hero of wilsons? | thurmond was a well-known racist who openly supported segregation. thurmond was also hero of wilson's. What does common sense tell you ? 
BTW thurmond was infact a Democrat before he became a rep. in the 60's. Incase you didn't know, the ideology of a Democrat during the early days has nothing to do with today's modern day Democrat. Dixiecrat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
10-02-09, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by madmatt Or, I dunno, maybe it was the fact that Thurmond was in SC politics for more than half a century, you know, South Carolina, where Wilson lives and is in politics. Thurmond was an enormous political figure in South Carolina, and to say that Wilson is racist because one of his hero's was Strom Thurmond...well, that is just ignorant. | The fact that thurmond was a politician in SC for over fifty years does not erase the fact that he was a SEGREGATIONIST.  Quote:
Originally Posted by madmatt Please PLEASE explain to us how when Democrats called George Bush a liar, it was somehow okay, and meant you were taking an active stance in your political position, but when a Republican from SC calls Barack Obama a liar...RACIST RACIST RACIST
Please, STFU with your race card throwing babble... | Show me an example where a Democrat called the President of the United States a liar in the middle of a speech in front of congress. You can call it freedom of speech.... I call it disrespectful. It wouldn't be a stretch either to call him a racist considering the stuff mentioned above.
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10-02-09, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 RedFox, are you honestly trying to make "You Lie" into a racist statement? Have you gotten into the wine coolers again? | I'm willing to bet that wilson was originally going for a different word. The "You Lie" option was just a safer choice.  |
10-02-09, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT I'm willing to bet that wilson was originally going for a different word. The "You Lie" option was just a safer choice. | That's really reaching. |
10-02-09, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 That's really reaching. | Not really. See above posts. |
10-02-09, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT
Obviously you need to look up racism in the dictionary. |
You can be racist to not just skin color. It can be sex, religion exc exc exc... Skin color is not the only type of racism.
Racism does not mean " Im white and your black and I hate you for that" |
10-02-09, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT thurmond was a well-known racist who openly supported segregation. thurmond was also hero of wilson's. What does common sense tell you ? |
Im so glad you said that. You just stepped in a big pile of of poo.
So Wilson is a racist b/c he was close to Thurmond.
But Obama is not a racist b/c he was close to reverend Wright for 20 years at his church 
So all these shady people like Ron Ayers, Rev Wright, Van Jones who are either racist, terrorist, or communist who obama was close with means nothing but Wilson was friends with Thurman so when Wilson says obama is a liar so that means hes a racist |
10-02-09, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT I'm willing to bet that wilson was originally going for a different word. The "You Lie" option was just a safer choice. | so now your argument is that you know for a fact what Wilson really wanted to say? Because you were right there? Because you know wilson personally?
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10-02-09, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT-
Show me an example where a Democrat called the President of the United States a liar in the middle of a speech in front of congress. You can call it freedom of speech.... I call it disrespectful. It wouldn't be a stretch either to call him a racist considering the stuff mentioned above. | I thought it was racist? |
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10-02-09, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom351R You can be racist to not just skin color. It can be sex, religion exc exc exc... Skin color is not the only type of racism.
Racism does not mean " Im white and your black and I hate you for that" | The word you're looking for is prejudiced. It terms of gender, sexist would be a more accurate term. Racist is just what the term implies (i.e. having to do with race). |
10-02-09, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT The word you're looking for is prejudiced. It terms of gender, sexist would be a more accurate term. Racist is just what the term implies (i.e. having to do with race). |
Not saying you have to read all these other then the title, but notice how its not saying rscism is just skin VS Skin color. There are other types of racisim. Islam in Europe: Opinion: On Islamophobia and other forms of racism Different Forms of Racism Abstract Nonsense
also wiki does not say that calling someone a liar would be racist. Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Neither does websters. racism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
^ Also does not say its just based on skin color. The actual definition of racism goes much deeper then your skin is black and mines white so I dont like you for it, yet your trying to dumb it down to a white congressman calling our half black president a liar.
Why is that automatically racist? How do you know Wilson was being racist to obama's black half? If he was referring to his white half then is he still racist?. Obama is as much white as he is black.
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10-02-09, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom351R
Im so glad you said that. You just stepped in a big pile of of poo.
So Wilson is a racist b/c he was close to Thurmond.
But Obama is not a racist b/c he was close to reverend Wright for 20 years at his church
So all these shady people like Ron Ayers, Rev Wright, Van Jones who are either racist, terrorist, or communist who obama was close with means nothing but Wilson was friends with Thurman so when Wilson says obama is a liar so that means hes a racist | Well, you didn't answer my question. If you want to go off topic and make this about Obama there was a 10+ page post about this issue where I expressed my opinion. |
10-02-09, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom351R so now your argument is that you know for a fact what Wilson really wanted to say? Because you were right there? Because you know wilson personally? | I know wilson is a politician and using a racist term would be considered political suicide. Instead, he did the smart thing and resorted to a tactic made famous by the reps: Dog-whistle politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
10-02-09, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT Well, you didn't answer my question. If you want to go off topic and make this about Obama there was a 10+ page post about this issue where I expressed my opinion. |
There are two pages here not ten and I didn't go off topic. I made a very clear and valid point and you now realized how big the pile of poo is that you did step in b/c of that comment.
So Wilson is racist b/c Thurman was and they were friends, but obama is not racist when Ayers is? Im pretty sure obama has been friends and in Ayers church for much longer then wilson has been friends with Thurman.
So its racist when it fits your argument but when the shoe is on the other foot and the same exact point is made back to you your rebuttal is
YOUR GOING OFF TOPIC!!!!!!!!!
YOUR RACIST!!!!! |
10-02-09, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFoxGT |
so what part of what wilson said was coded word? What part of Your a lialr was in secret code?
He said.. YOU LIE YouTube - Obama you lie speech health care
He did not say
Your a liar boy
So now your taking what he did not say, and saying that it was racist.
Watch the video fox, he said YOU LIE, not YOUR A LIAR BOY |
10-02-09, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom351R | Websters Definition:
Racist
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
Where does it say anything about Religion, Gender, etc.? Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom351R ^ Also does not say its just based on skin color. The actual definition of racism goes much deeper then your skin is black and mines white so I dont like you for it, yet your trying to dumb it down to a white congressman calling our half black president a liar. |
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Originally Posted by Venom351R Why is that automatically racist? How do you know Wilson was being racist to obama's black half? If he was referring to his white half then is he still racist?. Obama is as much white as he is black. | I'm not even going to answer such a silly question.  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
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