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11-03-09, 12:48 PM
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I'd also like to point out that, according to Michael Clemente, the network’s senior VP of news for Fox, news hours are between the times of 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.
So, if you're watching a show on Fox that isn't on between those times (Fox and Friends, O'Reilly Factor, Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc), it is not news. Think of it the Fox News' version of the Daily Show.  |
11-03-09, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 6Stang7  Where did I say that CBS was right? O yea I didn't. Once again, you assume since my argument disagrees with yours, that I then must be supporting Obama and every single liberal policy. I don't. Just because I find Fox News highly bias and deceptive does not mean I'm a liberal.
CBS and Rather were flat out wrong for what they did. Period. I have no problem pointing that out. However, this thread is about Fox, hence me only commenting on them. Stay on topic here. If I said something like, "Fox is bias; they need to be objective like CBS", then you'd have a point. I didn't, so I fail to see the point of your comment. Two wrongs don't make a right. | I have never called you a liberal OR a democrat. Just an enlightened progressive. That being said, when CBS was proven to have a heavy democratic bias and going as far as to manufacture news when there was none, do you discredit them like you do FOX? At this point, do you consider CBS a more credible news source than FOX news? Because I'm sure the only time they decided to manufacture the news was the time they got caught.   |
11-03-09, 09:09 PM
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Or how about CNN? Are they a credible news source without bias? Quote:
In a not-so-surprising move on the part of CNN/Netscape employees, they placed an image of President Bush and his wife Laura on their CNN.Netscape.CNN.com homepage (see middle image below), and named the photo image '*******.jpg.' The photo has since been renamed and by 9:30AM, *******.jpg was removed from their server. This story first posted by Paul at WizBangBlog.com.
AND, in yet another example of un-biased CNN reporting found by Free Republic comes in the form of a second photo removed from CNN/Netscape's server at 11:07AM this morning: Moron.jpg.
In Response, CNN announced this afternoon the following:
Netscape responsible for Bush photo insult
"A Web image and text disparaging President and Mrs. Bush currently circulating on the Internet was not created, disseminated or posted by CNN at any time, as is alleged. It was done by an employee of Netscape and posted on Netscape.com. CNN had no knowledge of it until it surfaced on other Websites. CNN has requested an immediate apology from Netscape."
In their most recent statement, CNN said that "Disparaging image tags used to identify photos of President and Mrs. Bush currently circulating on the Internet were not created, disseminated or posted by CNN at any time, as is alleged. They were done by a junior-level employee of Netscape and posted on Netscape.com. CNN had no knowledge of this until it surfaced on other Web sites."
"Netscape, which corrected the situation when it was discovered, has released a statement apologizing for the "inappropriate and disparaging terms" that were used in the image tags - and saying that the company has terminated the employee."
[Unfortunately, the CNN PR people forgot to look at the domain where the defamatory images were presented. It is CNN.Netscape.CNN.com (as is shown in the middle browser image above), meaning CNN is the controlling domain for the site. -Editor]
| So, what do you think is an unbiased news source 6stang7? |
11-03-09, 10:50 PM
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that says cdn, not cnn.... |
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11-04-09, 09:11 AM
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"A Web image and text disparaging President and Mrs. Bush currently circulating on the Internet was not created, disseminated or posted by CNN at any time, as is alleged. It was done by an employee of Netscape and posted on Netscape.com. CNN had no knowledge of it until it surfaced on other Websites. CNN has requested an immediate apology from Netscape."
| Well that sounds like CNN is biased against Netscape. |
11-04-09, 10:43 AM
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And for all that we are complaining about how fox news should be discredited because of some of the commentators, I guess we have to write off MSNBC because of Keith Olbermann. |
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Originally Posted by jikelly Well that sounds like CNN is biased against Netscape. | just another reason netscape blows  Quote:
Originally Posted by strtrcr50 And for all that we are complaining about how fox news should be discredited because of some of the commentators, I guess we have to write off MSNBC because of Keith Olbermann. | dont forget chris matthews and the feeling he has running up his legs for obama |
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Originally Posted by rbohm | I thought it was running down his leg. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Chris Matthews I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God. | But no.. Let's discredit FoxNews. |
11-04-09, 11:29 AM
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Oh, and Kell, since you missed this part... Quote: |
[Unfortunately, the CNN PR people forgot to look at the domain where the defamatory images were presented. It is CNN.Netscape.CNN.com (as is shown in the middle browser image above), meaning CNN is the controlling domain for the site. -Editor]
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11-04-09, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 I have never called you a liberal OR a democrat. Just an enlightened progressive. That being said, when CBS was proven to have a heavy democratic bias and going as far as to manufacture news when there was none, do you discredit them like you do FOX? At this point, do you consider CBS a more credible news source than FOX news? Because I'm sure the only time they decided to manufacture the news was the time they got caught. | So you are saying that the White House and Fox didn't agree to a truce? |
11-04-09, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 Or how about CNN? Are they a credible news source without bias?
So, what do you think is an unbiased news source 6stang7? | Since you're assuming a lot, I'll go ahead and state everything I can think of to save you the trouble.
1) I don't specifically trust any one new source. I check many different sources and look for what is the same and what is different. In all seriousness, I listen to Air America and Hot Talk 560 (Bay Area conservative radio station). I never listen to just one source.
2) Who do I find the least bias and the most informative when fact checked? NPR, because they cover both sides. For example, when they talked about health care reform, they spoke with an economist who explained how the public option would drive up prices for people with private health insurance (via cost shifting). They explained why co-pays from an insurance company can be a good thing and why they can be bad. They also covered why not-for-profit health care and a government plan would decrease overall expenses on health care, but how it would require other chances in the current system.
As for what you linked, I would like to know where you got it. Even I, with my laughable photo editing abilities, could photoshop something like that. |
11-04-09, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 I thought it was running down his leg.
But no.. Let's discredit FoxNews. | Once again, this thread is about Fox. Yes, MSNBC is bias; that's extremely obvious. |
11-04-09, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 6Stang7 Since you're assuming a lot, I'll go ahead and state everything I can think of to save you the trouble.
1) I don't specifically trust any one new source. I check many different sources and look for what is the same and what is different. In all seriousness, I listen to Air America and Hot Talk 560 (Bay Area conservative radio station). I never listen to just one source.
2) Who do I find the least bias and the most informative when fact checked? NPR, because they cover both sides. For example, when they talked about health care reform, they spoke with an economist who explained how the public option would drive up prices for people with private health insurance (via cost shifting). They explained why co-pays from an insurance company can be a good thing and why they can be bad. They also covered why not-for-profit health care and a government plan would decrease overall expenses on health care, but how it would require other chances in the current system.
As for what you linked, I would like to know where you got it. Even I, with my laughable photo editing abilities, could photoshop something like that. | It was all over when it happened. Try googling bush *******.jpg and you will find it. Here's a link to it being discussed on democraticunderground.com, home of the sane liberals. http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=105x5057415
Err America and NPR are both very biased. I wasn't sure Err America was still on the air after embezzling all that money from the children's charity. Do you enjoy the Randi Roades show?
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11-04-09, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 It was all over when it happened. Try googling bush *******.jpg and you will find it. Here's a link to it being discussed on democraticunderground.com, home of the sane liberals. Blast from the past: CNN names Bush image "*******" - Democratic Underground
Err America and NPR are both very biased. I wasn't sure Err America was still on the air after embezzling all that money from the children's charity. | Your own sources show that it was a Netscape employee that put that text in there, and that at best CNN should of reviewed it more carefully.
As for Air America's bias, of course! Like I said, I listen to both. Air America is bias to the left, and Hot Talk to the right.
NPR is bias in that certain programs (like living on earth for example) will be biased to a specific view. This is to be expected. NPR News is different.
And again, I don't flat out trust any one new outlet. I just trust NPR more then any other source. |
11-04-09, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 6Stang7 Your own sources show that it was a Netscape employee that put that text in there, and that at best CNN should of reviewed it more carefully. | No it doesn't.. Quote: |
[Unfortunately, the CNN PR people forgot to look at the domain where the defamatory images were presented. It is CNN.Netscape.CNN.com (as is shown in the middle browser image above), meaning CNN is the controlling domain for the site. -Editor]
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11-04-09, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 No it doesn't.. | Does CNN own and run the servers that were hosting the site? |
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I'll try this again.. Quote: |
meaning CNN is the controlling domain for the site
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11-04-09, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 I'll try this again.. | They didn't support that claim. There justification for that statement seems to be that CNN is in the address, but that doesn't mean that CNN controls it to the extent that they are assuming. |
11-04-09, 09:37 PM
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The address supports the claim. |
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 The address supports the claim. | Then your argument is that, since CNN is in the address, it is then under their control.
Using your logic, then the site is also under the control of Netscape because Netscape is in the address.
So now what? |
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Wow, you really don't want this to be true. If CNN is the controlling domain, how are they NOT responsible for what they put on? |
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 It was hosted on a netscape site. here's another screenshot from a different source. 
A photo appearing on CNN / Netscape of President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush was named "*******.jpg" as of 1:23 AM EST on November 4, 2004.
The page is located at: OpenDNS
The image is located at: http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/cpp.../i/*******.jpg | Quote:
Originally Posted by 6Stang7 They didn't support that claim. There justification for that statement seems to be that CNN is in the address, but that doesn't mean that CNN controls it to the extent that they are assuming. | Maybe this will help. The netscape part doesn't matter, the part of the address you need to pay attention to is the last part, i.e. cnn.com. That is who owns and operates the domain and site. Maybe this pic will make it easier for you to understand. 
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11-05-09, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by strtrcr50 Wow, you really don't want this to be true. If CNN is the controlling domain, how are they NOT responsible for what they put on? | There is a difference between responsibility and doing said act. I could really care less if it is true because I never said CNN was the word of God; however, you are implying that CNN knew about this before it was put up. That has yet to have been proven. You love jumping to conclusions for some reason.  |
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