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10-25-09, 07:47 PM
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10-26-09, 06:43 PM
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Most of us already knew, but thanks for posting. |
10-26-09, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven  Most of us already knew, but thanks for posting. | I Wasn't sure if everyone knew the new motors would be unveiled at the LA Auto show. You can sign up for updates on the LA Auto website. |
10-29-09, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rk2112 I Wasn't sure if everyone knew the new motors would be unveiled at the LA Auto show. You can sign up for updates on the LA Auto website. | Now, that I din't know. Thanks  |
10-29-09, 08:20 PM
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I don't think any of us will be surprised...this is what I expect:
GT - 5.0L 400HP with a 6spd manual finally offered. Probably will pick up some weight but still won't be a cow like the Camaro.
V6 - 3.7L 280HP....not sure what transmissions will be offered.
GT500 - 5.0 Supercharged, better tires and suspension for improved launching.
I'd be more surprised if they didn't have these offerings.
The GT and V6 offerings will put the Mustang into Camaro territory for HP and being that it's a lighter vehicle with a live axle as long as the tires can hook up I'd go ahead and bet that in the next comparison of the muscle cars it won't even be a competition anymore seeing as how Mustang already won overall value this year with an engine that's about 15 years old and a log axle out back that does it's job better than the fancy IRS in the Camaro. Not to mention the interior of the Camaro....further proof why GM can't get its act together. |
10-29-09, 08:37 PM
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I don't think the GT will go straight to 400. Need something for the future and special models. I say they hold back around the 350 area, still 35 more horse than the previous. |
10-29-09, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast05 I don't think any of us will be surprised...this is what I expect:
GT - 5.0L 400HP with a 6spd manual finally offered. Probably will pick up some weight but still won't be a cow like the Camaro.
V6 - 3.7L 280HP....not sure what transmissions will be offered.
GT500 - 5.0 Supercharged, better tires and suspension for improved launching.
I'd be more surprised if they didn't have these offerings.
The GT and V6 offerings will put the Mustang into Camaro territory for HP and being that it's a lighter vehicle with a live axle as long as the tires can hook up I'd go ahead and bet that in the next comparison of the muscle cars it won't even be a competition anymore seeing as how Mustang already won overall value this year with an engine that's about 15 years old and a log axle out back that does it's job better than the fancy IRS in the Camaro. Not to mention the interior of the Camaro....further proof why GM can't get its act together. | I pray you are right. I have been waiting about 6 years for the coyote to come out. If yall remember i believe its first code name was the "hurricane".  |
10-30-09, 12:04 AM
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I say this is what the line up will look like.
Boss 302 = 5.0L 400hp and 6 speed maunal
GT = 4.6L 350hp 6 speed manual and 6 speed auto
V6 = 3.7L 260-280hp 6 speed manual and 6 speed auto
GT-500= 5.4L at 600hp |
10-30-09, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by white-04 I don't think the GT will go straight to 400. Need something for the future and special models. I say they hold back around the 350 area, still 35 more horse than the previous. |
I really want the 400hp/400tq but Ford is kind of slow to increase HP on Mustangs unless it's a special version. Just think a 1990 GT had 225hp/300tq and 20 years later it's only been raised 90hp. Now they are going to make a 85hp to 100hp jump in a year.
I really want to believe but it's kind of hard. However this is a new Ford we're talking about so it does seem more likely now. |
10-30-09, 10:20 AM
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I'm surprised no one mentioned the ecoboost 3.5l. It makes 365hp in the SHO and is easily cabable of more. Being a turbo engine, it will make more power VERY easily with aftermarket options.
I beleive ford will offer this engine in the mustang around the same time as the new 5.0. The fuel economy ratings will be tightening up soon and this V6 makes awsome power with small v6 gas mileage. While a snarling 400hp v8 would be awsome, I would probably opt for this v6. |
10-30-09, 11:16 AM
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From another board but something to think about. Just a quote. I do not know if this true. Quote:
Originally Posted by wescoent EB Mustang has been delayed, partly because the Mustang is getting three new engines for MY2011. The EB Mustang will therefore be delayed, so it can make a big splash when it debuts, and not get drowned out in the hooplah over the 5 liter.
It will be a FUN car when debuted. As of now, it will likely carry the Shelby GT350 name, and be paired with a 6-speed manual and/or DCT, an IRS, and a quite lusty 425hp motor. Performance is astonishing, from what I've heard, due to the near perfect weight balance and mesa-flat torque curve.
A MY or two later, it'll be available outside the $$$ Shelby package. | |
10-30-09, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing From another board but something to think about. Just a quote. I do not know if this true. | I hope they don't go with IRS. The log out back right now performs better then Dodges or Chevys IRS setup. |
10-30-09, 05:04 PM
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Take 800lbs out of the chevy and dodge muscle cars, to equal the weight of the mustang and see what happens. Those cars are way obese and of course that hurts handling. I agree that the solid axle has been refined and works well in the mustang, but it is still prone to bind and not the best option for handling.
Sounds like the ecoboost mustang will beawsome when it comes out! I'll be done with my degree by then, so maybe I can afford one.  Quote:
Originally Posted by scupking I hope they don't go with IRS. The log out back right now performs better then Dodges or Chevys IRS setup. | |
10-30-09, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuff30 Take 800lbs out of the chevy and dodge muscle cars, to equal the weight of the mustang and see what happens. Those cars are way obese and of course that hurts handling. I agree that the solid axle has been refined and works well in the mustang, but it is still prone to bind and not the best option for handling.
Sounds like the ecoboost mustang will beawsome when it comes out! I'll be done with my degree by then, so maybe I can afford one. | I wouldn't mind seeing IRS as an option...but not in all of them. I honestly am quite content with my log out back. |
10-30-09, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuff30 Take 800lbs out of the chevy and dodge muscle cars, to equal the weight of the mustang and see what happens. | You must have meant to say 250-400lbs.
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10-31-09, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bluestang50 I pray you are right. I have been waiting about 6 years for the coyote to come out. If yall remember i believe its first code name was the "hurricane". | Nah, the hurricane was the code name for the 6.2L V8 non-modular that ford nixed a few years ago and may be working on again. It was being designed for heavyduty truck platforms.
Instead they developed the 6.8L V10 which they make in 2v and 3v form. Its used in the e and f series superduty and was an option for the excursion i believe.
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10-31-09, 10:52 AM
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Far as I know, the curb weight of the mustang is around 3400. I looked up the dodge challanger SRT-8 and it is 4140. One could round up to an 800lb difference..., but maybe the real difference is closer to 700lbs. My mistake. Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade Nah, the hurricane was the code name for the 6.2L V8 non-modular that ford nixed a few years ago and may be working on again. It was being designed for heavyduty truck platforms.
Instead they developed the 6.8L V10 which they make in 2v and 3v form. Its used in the e and f series superduty and was an option for the excursion i believe. | |
10-31-09, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuff30 Far as I know, the curb weight of the mustang is around 3400. I looked up the dodge challanger SRT-8 and it is 4140. One could round up to an 800lb difference..., but maybe the real difference is closer to 700lbs. My mistake. | He may have been talking about the rumor that the Mustang will be putting on a few pounds. The 5.0L engine alone is 150lbs heavier than the 4.6L. |
10-31-09, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuff30 Far as I know, the curb weight of the mustang is around 3400. | Nah, you're right, the V6 is about that. It's pretty easy to get a GT with leather up to about 3600. Quote:
Originally Posted by cougar_68 He may have been talking about the rumor that the Mustang will be putting on a few pounds. The 5.0L engine alone is 150lbs heavier than the 4.6L. | While I don't doubt a small weight increase for the overall car, how in the world can the 4.6 gain 150lbs when going to a 5.0? Going to a 4V head and cast aluminum intake can't add that much can it?  |
11-01-09, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DougNuts Nah, you're right, the V6 is about that. It's pretty easy to get a GT with leather up to about 3600.
While I don't doubt a small weight increase for the overall car, how in the world can the 4.6 gain 150lbs when going to a 5.0? Going to a 4V head and cast aluminum intake can't add that much can it? | Where did he hear the 5.0 motor is 150 pounds heavier? the 4.6 is a heavy ass motor for it's small displacement.. I have a hard time believing anything short of a diesel could be heavier than that thing
BTW I don't think the 5.0 is a modular it's a all new design |
11-01-09, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lightblade Nah, the hurricane was the code name for the 6.2L V8 non-modular that ford nixed a few years ago and may be working on again. It was being designed for heavyduty truck platforms.
Instead they developed the 6.8L V10 which they make in 2v and 3v form. Its used in the e and f series superduty and was an option for the excursion i believe. | The 6.2 is coming out as a option on the F-150 raptor around spring time.. This has been confirmed.
the motor is renamed the boss now.. and will be the optional motor on f-150's and the base and only v8 for the f-superduty
supposedly a version of the 5.0 that is going in the gt will be the base v8 in the f-150
BTW this is why we are getting a new v-8 for the mustang.. because ford can not make enough HP to compete in the truck market with the mod. Over the next few years the modular will be phased out and retired. |
11-01-09, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DougNuts While I don't doubt a small weight increase for the overall car, how in the world can the 4.6 gain 150lbs when going to a 5.0? Going to a 4V head and cast aluminum intake can't add that much can it? | I should have said 100lbs. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Justin01 So, to make sure I'm on the same page here, the supposedly new 5.0L that's going into the 2011-ish mustang is based on the 5.0 32valve coyote motor right? The cammer motor? If that's the case, that puppy weights in at about 534lbs dressed. To the current 4.6L's 435lbs. | Link to the thread.
We had a whole discussion about weight over there. |
11-01-09, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cougar_68 I should have said 100lbs. Link to the thread.
We had a whole discussion about weight over there. | I don't think the coyote is based on the modular and it's not the cammer.. so we don't really know how heavy the new motor is |
11-01-09, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by svttech76 I don't think the coyote is based on the modular and it's not the cammer.. so we don't really know how heavy the new motor is | The coyote is based on the modular block with a few minor changes. The heads/intake etc. are all brand new designs. This motor shouldn't weigh any more than a 1999 Cobra 4v motor does. |
11-01-09, 04:01 PM
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