Starter doesnt "line up"

86gtriceeater · #1 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 12:40 AM

My starter is grinding after did a motor and clutch swap. I tried two other starters and they did the same thing. The top starter bolt was completely stripped so i used a bolt/nut it. But now it grinds. Im pretty sure its centered but if it isnt how do i fix/adjust it so it is?

**Mustang5L5** · #2 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 07:00 AM

Starter index plate installed between block and bellhousing??

RsStanG1987 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 08:02 AM

Funny mine did the same.

86gtriceeater · #4 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 02:05 PM

starter index plate? the inspection cover? if thats what you mean yeah but it is broken from bolt hole to bolt hole but-the rest of the plate is there...what to do?

**Mustang5L5** · #5 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 02:24 PM

This plate behind the flywheel. It's installed??

This is what lines up the starter

86gtriceeater · #6 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 02:28 PM

yeah but the curved part from starter bolt hole to starter bolt hole is snapped off...idk if that would do it but i also have a bolt/nut for the top starter bolt cut the bellhousing threads were stripped...ugh

**Mustang5L5** · #7 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 04:06 PM

it could have something to do with it. If you try to bolt the starter without it the is a little bit of play and you could have problems liming it all up.

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86gtriceeater · #8 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 07:59 PM

i tried two starters with the same result then my 3rd and it just clicked....im so confused...battery is good

**Mustang5L5** · #9 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 09:34 PM

You could try a million starters and it wouldn't make a difference if your starter index plate is missing the most important part.

86gtriceeater · #10 (**permalink**) 11-02-09, 11:39 PM

But i even put washer before the bolts to shim it...the only part snapped off is between the bolt holes....so i need to drop the tranny and get a new inspection plate? Maybe wiring issues because the inside toward the flywheel is lined up as well as the bolt holes....im not understanding whats going on....

**Mustang5L5** · #11 (**permalink**) 11-03-09, 07:00 AM

Perhaps i have a different mental image of what is going on vs what you are seeing. Can you snap pics?

PKOVACK · #12 (**permalink**) 11-03-09, 03:04 PM

I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM..... I CHANGED STARTER AND NOW IT DOES NOT WORK KINDA SUCKS CAUSE I CANT SHUT MY CAR OFF WHEN I TAKE IT SOME WHERE MINE DOES NOT HAVE THE PLATE OU ARE SHOWING IN THE PIC BUT I HAS A SIMILAR SMALLER PLATE . ANY IDEAS

**Mustang5L5** · #13 (**permalink**) 11-03-09, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PKOVACK

ANY IDEAS

Yes, caps off, and start by telling us what you drive. Hard to guess what the prob is if we don't know what model and tran you have.

89powerhouse · #14 (**permalink**) 11-04-09, 05:25 PM

I swapped a 4 cylinder to a 5.0. I eliminated power steering and ac completly. Not even running eliminator pullies. I need an idea on how to run the belt because of the reverse rotation water pump. Can someone please help me out?

**Mustang5L5** · #15 (**permalink**) 11-04-09, 05:30 PM

You might want to start a new thread next time,

but purchase a standard rotation water pump

did a reverse to standard water pump swap, now having cooling issues?

tannerc91gt · #16 (**permalink**) 11-04-09, 06:17 PM

Wow you didn't even attempt to hide your thread jacking....

Repostyle · #17 (**permalink**) 11-04-09, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tannerc91gt

Wow you didn't even attempt to hide your thread jacking....

Thread jacking

I agree with 5L5, you need to post up some pics.

Does the motor turn by hand? Just wondering if maybe you have something in there binding up like your clutch bolts are too long or something. Put a wrench on the crank pulley bolt and give 'er a turn.

k4mjk · #18 (**permalink**) 11-05-09, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PKOVACK

I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM..... I CHANGED STARTER AND NOW IT DOES NOT WORK KINDA SUCKS CAUSE I CANT SHUT MY CAR OFF WHEN I TAKE IT SOME WHERE MINE DOES NOT HAVE THE PLATE OU ARE SHOWING IN THE PIC BUT I HAS A SIMILAR SMALLER PLATE . ANY IDEAS

quit yelling.............

it could be because it was an auto and they did not do the swap properly

86gtriceeater · #19 (**permalink**) 11-05-09, 12:54 AM

what do you need to do to properly swap from an automatic?

**Mustang5L5** · #20 (**permalink**) 11-05-09, 07:02 AM

AOD index plate is smaller. You need the 5-spd one

k4mjk · #21 (**permalink**) 11-05-09, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang5L5

AOD index plate is smaller. You need the 5-spd one

i figured they were different just didn't have a picture thanks

86gtriceeater · #22 (**permalink**) 11-05-09, 07:52 AM

thanks that confirms i have the correct one....

ID89GT · #23 (**permalink**) 11-05-09, 04:37 PM

haha ya there is a difference between an auto and a manual tranny block plate. I found that out the hard way.. When I tried to put my clutch cable in and it wouldn't work cause the plate was in the way

stangfanatic · #24 (**permalink**) 11-10-09, 12:32 PM

I was just reading through this thread and I just noticed, I actually looked at buying the car that PKOVACK has in his garage. The biggest reason I didnt buy it was because of a non-complete 5-sp swap in it. Neutral saftey was missing and starting issues galore. Im glad I didnt get it else it may be me on here complaining instead of him.

87GT40 · #25 (**permalink**) 11-10-09, 01:37 PM

if your top bolt is stripped and the block plate is partially broken then you should change both of them. i had a starter issue and went through 6 starters before i changed the block plate and bell housing. my bottom hole strippied out and i re-tapped it but it must not have been lining up right. thats whats probably happening with your starter. i would change the bell housing. you can get them from ebay or craiglist fairly cheap.