This is a discussion on Stangnet photography gurus, I need your help! within the Electronica Central forums, part of the The Short Bus category; Originally Posted by bakos24
Dood, you are the man, great stuff I was talking to the wife last night and ...
Dood, you are the man, great stuff I was talking to the wife last night and forgot she was going to Panama next month and she wants one to take with her. Looks like we WILL be getting one.
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So you say for me the XS with the 50mm F/1.8 lens would be good. How much better would the XSi be with the same lens? I'm just curios. I am already looking at about $600 for the XS and the 50mm F/1.8 lens. If there would be a nice noticeable difference then I will just get the XSi with the 50mm F/1.8.
I will be spending this much already, might as well get the best I can
Well this use (going to panama) does not fall into a category that you listed for regular use. Because of the factors involved, I would say that buying the 50mm 1.8 should be postponed and get the 55-250mm since there will be more use out of it. At least I would assume there will be. 50mm is covered in the range of the kit 18-55mm. If she were to need 50mm she has the capability in the kit lens.
I mentioned the 50mm F/1.8 lens for you because Primes typically have a better image quality than zooms. You wanted to take portraits and stuff which is why I suggested it
Before she goes, she definitely needs to get used to the somewhat awkward activity of swapping lenses
***You guys are thinking about a way to store the equipment right? There are many different types of bags to choose from, all at varying costs. I would recommend at looking at those that are waterproof since the camera and leses are not. This isnt required as my back is not waterproof. I thought It would be more cost effective for me to buy a cheaper bag, and buy a pocket poncho for 2 bucks and keep it in my bag at all times that I can use to cover myself and my backpack
Well this use (going to panama) does not fall into a category that you listed for regular use.
But, I says trips
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Originally Posted by RedDaemon
Because of the factors involved, I would say that buying the 50mm 1.8 should be postponed and get the 55-250mm since there will be more use out of it. At least I would assume there will be. 50mm is covered in the range of the kit 18-55mm. If she were to need 50mm she has the capability in the kit lens.
I mentioned the 50mm F/1.8 lens for you because Primes typically have a better image quality than zooms. You wanted to take portraits and stuff which is why I suggested it
Before she goes, she definitely needs to get used to the somewhat awkward activity of swapping lenses
Trips, just going out and shooting a nice sunset, shooting the stang Between the 3 that are already listed. XS, XSI T1i Or is there another one you would suggest?
so you did. get the 55-250 before the 50 1.8. if you need a 50mm prime down the road, perhaps you can get a better 50mm than the $100 plastic mount version.
excellent. you still need a memory card and bag at the least.
as far as price, idk if you can find it cheaper. ive never been good with that stuff. there is Bin cashback if you have an account. i posted something regarding that a few posts ago
Well I'm glad I stumbled on this thread! I'm thinking about getting a dslr, though it won't be for at least another year or so (school). I have an old Cannon EOS 650 film camera that I've used for over 10 years now, and while not expensive, has served me quite well. I like to take a lot of still pictures, particularly of Detroit, but I also do night shots and some effects. I am totally unfamiliar with photoshop beyond what Photobucket has to offer (call me oldschool), so I prefer to make the effects with the camera itself. My experience with digital cameras is limited to cheapish P&S cameras, which have terrible night image quality. My question is this: what should I be looking at to determine what is a good camera for me? I'll post a few of the pictures I happen to have already scanned to give you an idea what I like to do. (click to enlarge)
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excellent. you still need a memory card and bag at the least.
as far as price, idk if you can find it cheaper. ive never been good with that stuff. there is Bin cashback if you have an account. i posted something regarding that a few posts ago
Before she goes, she definitely needs to get used to the somewhat awkward activity of swapping lenses
One more question. What is the differences between the lenses? Meaning, what would you use one lens for and not the other
I am a complete n00b to this stuff
One more question. What is the differences between the lenses? Meaning, what would you use one lens for and not the other
I am a complete n00b to this stuff
as far as zoom lenses go, she would use the 18-55mm lens for pictures such as landscapes, indoor shots, pictures of markets...anything that is relatively close and you want to capture the big picture.
the 55-250mm lens would be used for subjects that are out of reach, like a bird on top of a belltower, or a herd of livestock in a pasture distant from the road. this lens can also be used for headshot portraits.
Looks like it's all been just about covered. I'm thinking of grabbing a T1i as a compact back-up, and to shoot video. My main camera is a 5D.
The T1i has a firmware update to capture 1080p video at 23fps right? that will be an awesome second body. FF, Crop AND HD video capability. Sounds like the perfect wedding setup!
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Originally Posted by Decurion
Well I'm glad I stumbled on this thread! I'm thinking about getting a dslr, though it won't be for at least another year or so (school). I have an old Cannon EOS 650 film camera that I've used for over 10 years now, and while not expensive, has served me quite well. I like to take a lot of still pictures, particularly of Detroit, but I also do night shots and some effects. I am totally unfamiliar with photoshop beyond what Photobucket has to offer (call me oldschool), so I prefer to make the effects with the camera itself. My experience with digital cameras is limited to cheapish P&S cameras, which have terrible night image quality. My question is this: what should I be looking at to determine what is a good camera for me? I'll post a few of the pictures I happen to have already scanned to give you an idea what I like to do. (click to enlarge)
sounds to me like you can get away with any dslr. these pictures are still life. since youre doing mostly night photography and worry about noise, id recommend the T1i. better noise suppression and higher ISO capability. with the T1i you can explore videography as well!
sounds to me like you can get away with any dslr. these pictures are still life. since youre doing mostly night photography and worry about noise, id recommend the T1i. better noise suppression and higher ISO capability. with the T1i you can explore videography as well!
Thats about what I figured. Not really interested in video, but I may change my opinion if I try it. Since it'll be a while before I actually get the camera, what kinds of things indicate a better quality camera and resulting image quality? Is there a few particular things to look for? If I'm going to buy a camera, I may as well spend a little more to get a good one, even if its overkill. I looked at the link you posted to the T1i, and it looks good, but like I said before, I don't know a lot about the digitals. Any difference between the T1i and whats available at, say, Target? I briefly looked at theirs recently and they had a couple in that price range, though I have no idea how they spec'd out compared to the T1i.
what kinds of things indicate a better quality camera and resulting image quality? Is there a few particular things to look for?
-MegaPixel to Sensor Size ratio
-Processor. For Canons, the chips are known as "Digic" processors. Their current chip its the Digic IV in DSLRs. Currently the 7D and 1D mark IV take the cake each with having dual Digic 4 processors
-Autofocus points
-Metering zones
-Viewfinder size (how much of the image can be seen vs what is captured by the camera. A lot of ameras only have a ~93% viewing screen capability meaning that 7% of the scene is not visible in the viewfinder)
Not bad, but I actually prefer refurbs a lot of times, especially from Adorama. They're inspected more than a new piece. However, IF I wanted the lens with it, I'd probably go ahead and get the new. But you can't beat the body only for just over $500. Then you can pick up a good lens, and not try to make due with the crappy kit lens.
To those saying you don't want video, video on a SLR or anything with a real lens is so different than your standard video camera. I really can't wait to get one.
To those saying you don't want video, video on a SLR or anything with a real lens is so different than your standard video camera. I really can't wait to get one.
troof.
framerate is a bit slow. idk if that is the max capability of the T1i or if this was shot before the upgraded firmware, OR just crappy upload/post edit
framerate is a bit slow. idk if that is the max capability of the T1i or if this was shot before the upgraded firmware, OR just crappy upload/post edit
That's their post. YouTube is very tricky, especially with HD video. If you don't get it just right, you'll have that. The best way I've found to upload to YouTube is to save as 720P, 30FPS, WMV9.
I guess the biggest reason I like video from these is the depth of field you get. It just looks so much more cinematic.
You CANNOT beat the quality of the 50mm F1.8 for the price. You just cannot!
I've gone up to F14 and autofocus still worked, even on my Rebel XT. I don't think there's a limit, or if there is, I did not find one. On video, unless you're videoing the sun, I don't think you'd ever go over F8.
I've gone up to F14 and autofocus still worked, even on my Rebel XT. I don't think there's a limit, or if there is, I did not find one. On video, unless you're videoing the sun, I don't think you'd ever go over F8.
thats crazy! i thought the only models that were able to have AF over F/5.6 were 1 series bodies to F/8. Perhaps its a new marketing ploy and the XT was one of the last to be able to.
I know you can do the 'tape' mod so non 1-series bodies can AF to F/8 (unreliable and inconsistent). I didnt think the rebels could AF that high. thats news to me!!!
I can't believe I just read this whole thread. Lots of fantastic advice and info. I am looking to get back into my photography hobby and would like to get an mid range setup. Nothing with all the fixins' that I won't use, but one that will take awsome photos.
Looking to get both a P&S and a DSLR. RedDaemon can you help with the DSLR??
Primary - Landscapes and seascapes, with a good deal of still life and portraits.
Secondary - close ups - 3ft or less. Flowers, birds, nature.
Some compositions will have moving water and I would like to be able to have a good High speed shutter for that. I plan on picking up a P&S for candids, birthdays, and get togethers. The DSLR will be for sceens that I can take some time with and compose a bit.
Body?
Lens1
Lens2
Flash
For P&S I was looking at the cannon powershots either the SD780 or the SD1200?? what are your thoughts/opinions? I would really like to have a P&S that has a fast reaction time for the first shot and even quicker to the second. The one we have now has such a bad shutter lag that we miss a lot of the good shots.
I plan on picking up a P&S for candids, birthdays, and get togethers. The DSLR will be for sceens that I can take some time with and compose a bit.
before i recommend anything, im confused on one thing. is there any particular reason why you want to get a P&S? i ask because dslrs can be used just like a p&s on their auto modes. you dont have to worry about composing the shot. just set it to aperture priority or shutter priority and snap away. id recommend investing the money youd spend on the p&s on other equipment for the lenses based on what your uses will be.
before i recommend anything, im confused on one thing. is there any particular reason why you want to get a P&S? i ask because dslrs can be used just like a p&s on their auto modes. you dont have to worry about composing the shot. just set it to aperture priority or shutter priority and snap away. id recommend investing the money youd spend on the p&s on other equipment for the lenses based on what your uses will be.
The P&S will be a gift for my wife. She likes to take pictures but is not very technical oriented. She has a 6yr old Olympus now that has never been taken off of "Auto" and is very unhappy with its shutter speeds.
But simply the DSLR will be mine to tote around and the P&S hers.
I was talking to the wife last night and forgot she was going to Panama next month and she wants one to take with her. Looks like we WILL be getting one.
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