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Old 11-06-09, 10:53 AM
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The next thing you know people will think it's ok too marry dog's and cat's too.
If the cat or dog consents to it then what are you going to do?
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Old 11-06-09, 10:54 AM
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If the cat or dog consents to it then what are you going to do?
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Old 11-06-09, 11:56 AM
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I'm sorry but I oppose any law that forbids anyone "marrying" the person of their choice (as long as they are both consenting adults) or curtails the rights of those who form such a bond with another.
You can't use quotes on marry, it negates the point that is trying to be made.
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Old 11-06-09, 12:05 PM
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I, like someone else stated, don't really have a dog in this fight....so on the actual issue itself of Gay Marriage, I'm really kinda on the fence without a real opinion.

It doesn't affect me, so I don't really have a position that I'm passionate about.

However, I do have a passionate position regarding the rule of law, co-opting legislation, and Justices legislating from the bench.

I believe the traditional definition of the word "Marriage" means man-and-woman. I don't believe the word should be re-defined. I don't believe "Marriage" to be inherently discriminatory, a Man and a Woman can be married even if they don't love each other. A gay man has the same opportunities to marry a woman.

I definitely don't believe Marriage to be a "Right" It is not included in the Constitution, thus I truly believe that the power for such legislation belongs exclusively to the States, until the time where a Constitutional Amendment is put forth.

I find it unbelievably hypocritical, condescending and offensive to tout majority opinion for such legislation like Anti-Smoking, HealthCare and Minimum wage....but when it comes to propositions passed by a majority like defeating Gay-Marriage Amendments the peoples will is "UnJust, UnFair, and Malicious" and should not be respected.

Either public majority support means something or it doesn't. Co-opting the public will when it suits the politicians and the minority is an affront to the voters of this country.

Finally, and most importantly, I personally believe that this particular agenda is one more about forcing acceptance rather than merely obtaining "rights" and opportunities. No matter what they do in Congress, State or Federal, they can't force acceptance. They can enforce tolerance...but not acceptance.

I will tolerate many things....but I don't have to accept it. This is the finite principle that many feel is being threatened by such agendas as Gay Marriage. It is a subtle point, but a very valid one. I, personally, resent the notion that I am told what I should and should not accept.

The word that is they are trying to redefine behind the scenes is not "Marriage"...it's "Tolerance". To them, "Tolerance" is nothing more than the complete acceptance of their views....and I believe, that is where the majority of outrage and discontent comes from.

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Old 11-06-09, 12:12 PM
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I should probably shut up about this at this point.

I understand you guys' argument, but I disagree that "marriage" is not a right protected directly by the constitution. It has been repeatedly defended by the supreme court and I think in the case of those gay marriage bans that restrict that right they will eventually be struck down.

You will eventually have to tolerate the right all American citizens have to marry the person of their choosing in this country. Sorry.
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Old 11-06-09, 12:24 PM
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You will eventually have to tolerate the right all American citizens have to marry the person of their choosing in this country. Sorry.
Doubtful.

Given the way this Administration is behaving, it will more than likely be illegal to marry anyone working at FoxNews or a Republican.

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Old 11-06-09, 12:25 PM
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Doubtful.

Given the way this Administration is behaving, it will more than likely be illegal to marry anyone working at FoxNews or a Republican.

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Old 11-06-09, 03:47 PM
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You will eventually have to tolerate the right all American citizens have to marry the person of their choosing in this country. Sorry.
Not if it keeps getting voted down. Sorry.
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Old 11-06-09, 07:59 PM
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all the gay supporters had a big march tonight. They didn't get what they wanted so basically they had a protest about it. They didn't get their way so they are all crying about it and accusing everyone of being a gay bashing homophobes.

Cant wait for it to be shot down again.

It lost 47% to 52%. 5% is quite a bit of ground to make up considering our POTUS won by 7% and that was considered a land slide.
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Old 11-06-09, 08:12 PM
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all the gay supporters had a big march tonight. They didn't get what they wanted so basically they had a protest about it. They didn't get their way so they are all crying about it and accusing everyone of being a gay bashing homophobes.

Cant wait for it to be shot down again.

It lost 47% to 52%. 5% is quite a bit of ground to make up considering our POTUS won by 7% and that was considered a land slide.
Where was this at? I would have protested against the protester's.
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Old 11-06-09, 09:06 PM
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They want democracy, unless the democracy votes against them.

I have no problem with gay marriage, however i feel this is a state decision. if the votes come in for no, well put a waiting period on it till it can be voted on again.

I also feel that no non state entity should be chastised or slandered for refusing to marry anyone they choose not to.
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Old 11-07-09, 12:01 AM
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They should stop protesting and start challengin these laws in court.

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Old 11-07-09, 02:34 AM
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Kinda like how Plessy Vs Ferguson was passed in court in 1954 ehh?
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