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11-05-09, 02:59 PM
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| | | Gun man at Fort Hood. Killed 7 so far, in progress.
IDK whats happening yet but there is a crazy gun man on the loose. Quote:
FORT HOOD, Texas — The U.S. Army has closed its massive Army base at Fort Hood, Texas, amid reports that seven people have been shot and killed and another 20 injured at the post.
Fort Hood The Web site of the base in central Texas has posted an alert that says, “Effective immediately Fort Hood is closed.” The Web site said that units at the base have been ordered to account for all personnel.
The site says, “This is not a Drill. It is an Emergency Situation.”
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Several television stations in Texas say several people were both killed and wounded in the shooting. Officials at the base and in the nearby town of Killeen, Texas, have not confirmed those accounts.
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11-05-09, 03:04 PM
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1 captured, 1 more cornered. We have people in and out of there all the time. Thank God nobody is there at the moment. Well now they just said one more is on the loose.
They are using M-16s | 
11-05-09, 03:06 PM
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Yea they are now looking for the 2nd shooter. Jesus. Shots were fired INTO a readiness center.
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11-05-09, 03:18 PM
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Its sounding like two seperate instances too. 
One was in the theater? Wonder what they were showing.
Cant seem to find out if its over yet or what. | 
11-05-09, 03:38 PM
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9 dead now.  | 
11-05-09, 04:03 PM
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NBC says 12 now. That Sucks! | 
11-05-09, 04:15 PM
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3 Soldiers were the gun men. One is dead and the other two are in custody. 12 dead and 31 injured. Wonder what the hell happened for them to go on a killing spree? | 
11-05-09, 04:19 PM
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And one of the shooters names is Malique Hassan, grate. This should start some crap. | 
11-05-09, 04:57 PM
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11-05-09, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankenStang | Wasnt your SIL just there? I think Sammich was too but hes eaither on mission or locked down cause of this and isnt returning my text or IMs  | 
11-05-09, 05:17 PM
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Christina was at Fort Sam Houston, I believe. Jason is in Jersey.
There are so many things I want to say right now about this but, I'd have to slap myself with a permaban.  | 
11-05-09, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankenStang Christina was at Fort Sam Houston, I believe. Jason is in Jersey.
There are so many things I want to say right now about this but, I'd have to slap myself with a permaban.  | I'll freakin' say it. I'm sorry but Islamic extremists have infiltrated everywhere. Time to start taking a real close look at "converts". Seems they are the ones who end up in all these situations. | 
11-05-09, 05:28 PM
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At the moment, my prayers are with the families. However, COramprat hit the nail right on the head. | 
11-05-09, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankenStang Christina was at Fort Sam Houston, I believe. Jason is in Jersey.
There are so many things I want to say right now about this but, I'd have to slap myself with a permaban.  | Feel free to call/text/PM/IM me. | 
11-05-09, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LaserSVT Feel free to call/text/PM/IM me. | Done. | 
11-05-09, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by COramprat I'll freakin' say it. I'm sorry but Islamic extremists have infiltrated everywhere. Time to start taking a real close look at "converts". Seems they are the ones who end up in all these situations. | That is basically what I wanted to say minus the colorful choice words I would have chose. | 
11-05-09, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by COramprat I'll freakin' say it. I'm sorry but Islamic extremists have infiltrated everywhere. Time to start taking a real close look at "converts". Seems they are the ones who end up in all these situations. |
First let me say Holy Moly that is scary and I can't even imagine and my prayers are with all of them.
I just want to also interject the mental status of some of our soldiers, especially those returning from combat. Some people are built for those horrors, some are not. And although I do not know firsthand at all, but my impression from the info I have is that soldiers returning who have handled it in less than ideal ways....are not supported like they should be.
So anywho....this may not even be the case here....but its something worth mentioning. And I only mention this because it seems like there have been other incidents on bases, here and abroad, that were the result of an instable soldier. I just ask that we support our soldiers....those in active zones....and those that need us when they return. I would be the first to admit that I could not understand it unless I was there, but I'd always offer a shoulder and an ear for those that endure the worst for my benefit. Thank you.  | 
11-05-09, 06:23 PM
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I hope nobody takes my comments the wrong way, I just don't want to assume based on a name. That is all.
A comment I posted elsewhere, I want to post here as well. This stuff bothers me....
To the families and loved ones that support them and make sacrifices in their lives for all of this to happen....you too! THANK YOU! Without these people, present or past, we would not have the life we do. prayers and thoughts go out to those at Ft. Hood. THANK YOU to all of those that serve our country! Prayers and thoughts also to everyone who defends OUR country and/or has....and helps me sleep safe at night and for those who have sacrificed and continue to do so. | 
11-05-09, 06:45 PM
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Seriously. WTF is wrong with people. You know I'm not saying this is terroism ( which by defenition this is) but it seems these "people" who are all about killing strangers do so by suprise attack. Man up and face your enemy. IF you are out to prove a point, a sucker punch isn't the way to go about. Hang these bastards | 
11-05-09, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DocG2828 I hope nobody takes my comments the wrong way, I just don't want to assume based on a name. That is all.
A comment I posted elsewhere, I want to post here as well. This stuff bothers me....
To the families and loved ones that support them and make sacrifices in their lives for all of this to happen....you too! THANK YOU! Without these people, present or past, we would not have the life we do. prayers and thoughts go out to those at Ft. Hood. THANK YOU to all of those that serve our country! Prayers and thoughts also to everyone who defends OUR country and/or has....and helps me sleep safe at night and for those who have sacrificed and continue to do so. | Very good point. | 
11-05-09, 06:52 PM
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| | Army: 12 dead, 31 hurt in attacks at Fort Hood - Yahoo! News Quote:
FORT HOOD, Texas – A military mental health doctor facing deployment overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army base on Thursday, setting off on a rampage that killed 11 other people and left 31 wounded. Authorities killed the gunman, and the violence was believed to be the worst mass shooting in history at a U.S. military base.
The shooting began around 1:30 p.m., when shots were fired at the base's Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood.
"It's a terrible tragedy. It's stunning," Cone said.
A law enforcement official identified the shooting suspect as Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
Two other soldiers taken into custody following the deadly rampage were later released, the office of a Texas congressman said. A spokesman for Rep. John Carter says Fort Hood officials informed Carter's office of the release. Carter's congressional district includes the Army base.
Officials at Fort Hood did not immediately return calls seeking comment to confirm the report.
It was unclear what the motive was. U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said the Army major was about to deploy overseas, though it was unclear if he was headed to Iraq or Afghanistan and when he was scheduled to leave. Hutchison said she was told about the upcoming deployment by generals based at Fort Hood.
Military officials say Hasan, 39, was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before being transferred to the Texas base in July. The officials, who had access to Hasan's military record, said he received a poor performance evaluation while at Walter Reed. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because military records are confidential. The Virginia-born soldier was single with no children. He graduated from Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001. At Walter Reed, he did his internship, residency and a fellowship.
Officials were investigating whether Hasan was his birth name or if he may have changed his name, possibly as part of a conversion to Islam. However, they were not certain of his religion.
The Soldier Readiness Center holds hundreds of people and is one of the most populated parts of the base, said Steve Moore, a spokesman for III Corps at Fort Hood. Nearby there are barracks and a food center where there are fast food chains.
A graduation ceremony for soldiers who finished college courses while deployed was going on nearby at the time of the shooting, said Sgt. Rebekah Lampam, a Fort Hood spokeswoman.
Greg Schanepp, Carter's regional director in Texas, was at Fort Hood, said John Stone, a spokesman for Carter. Schanepp was at a graduation ceremony when a soldier who had been shot in the back came running toward him and alerted him of the shooting, Stone said. The soldier told Schanepp not to go in the direction of the shooter, he said.
The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said.
Lisa Pfund of Random Lake, Wis., says her daughter, 19-year-old Amber Bahr, was shot in the stomach but was in stable condition. "We know nothing, just that she was shot in the belly," Pfund told The Associated Press. She couldn't provide more details and only spoke with emergency personnel.
Pfund said Bahr joined the reserves when she was 17 to earn money for school and loved being in the military even though none of her friends were interested in joining the Army.
A Fort Hood spokesman said he could not immediately confirm any identities of the injured.
"I ask that all of you keep these families and these individuals in your prayers today," Texas Gov. Rick Perry said.
The shootings on the Texas military base stirred memories of other recent mass shootings in the United States, including 13 dead at a New York immigrant center in April, 10 killed during a gunman's rampage across Alabama in March and 32 killed in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history at Virginia Tech in 2007.
Around the country, some bases stepped up security precautions, but no others were locked down.
"The bottom line for us is that we are increasing security at our gates because the threat hasn't yet been defined, and we're reminding our Marines to be vigilant in their areas of responsibility," said Capt. Rob Dolan, public affairs officer for the Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma, Ariz.
In Washington, President Barack Obama called the shooting "a horrific outburst of violence." He said it's a tragedy to lose a soldier overseas and even more horrifying when they come under fire at an Army base on American soil.
"We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident," the commander in chief said. "We are going to stay on this."
Covering 339 square miles, Fort Hood is the largest active duty armored post in the United States. Home to about 52,000 troops as of earlier this year, the sprawling base is located halfway between Austin and Waco.
Fort Hood officially opened on Sept. 18, 1942, and was named in honor of Gen. John Bell Hood.
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Associated Press Writers Pam Hess, Anne Gearan, Lara Jakes, Suzanne Gamboa and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington, D.C., Jay Root in Temple, Linda Stewart Ball, Anabelle Garay and Andre Coe in Dallas and Colin Fly in Milwaukee and the Associated Press News Research Center contributed to this report.
(This version CORRECTS name to Nidal Malik Hasan, corrects immigrant shootings to April, from March.) )
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11-05-09, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankenStang Very good point. |
Thank you Lynn. I really appreciate that comment. I mean, if it were some super secret terrorist attack, I'd join in the hate too....but I don't see that evidence yet. If it comes out, I will eat my words, but I still think my comments are appropriate for the situation our country and soldiers are in.
Sadly, this reminds me of a school shooting....like Columbine.
You have a campus....and someone who has emotions beyond control and no other way to express them. The ONLY reason I can find any way to relate is because I am tasked with recognizing school shooters. Its part of my job. Impossible task, yes.
Bases, I don't know. I've never served on one. But it seems like our soldiers don't get the support and all that good stuff like they should. I love kids, and and all, and this is how I contribute to society. But I would love to see our soldiers getting everything and anything they need at all times. Whether it is pre-deploy....post-deploy....whatever. I have dealt with kids that have seen horrors...not going to compare, but its probably similar.
I would gladly my tax money goto both of these populations. You can raise my taxes any day of the week if it meant that money was going to support the defense of my country, and more importantly actually giving a ****ing **** about those people...those individuals....those lives....that actually do it. | 
11-05-09, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DocG2828 First let me say Holy Moly that is scary and I can't even imagine and my prayers are with all of them.
I just want to also interject the mental status of some of our soldiers, especially those returning from combat. Some people are built for those horrors, some are not. And although I do not know firsthand at all, but my impression from the info I have is that soldiers returning who have handled it in less than ideal ways....are not supported like they should be.
So anywho....this may not even be the case here....but its something worth mentioning. And I only mention this because it seems like there have been other incidents on bases, here and abroad, that were the result of an instable soldier. I just ask that we support our soldiers....those in active zones....and those that need us when they return. I would be the first to admit that I could not understand it unless I was there, but I'd always offer a shoulder and an ear for those that endure the worst for my benefit. Thank you.  |
So horrible.
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11-05-09, 06:57 PM
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Sadly....being a mental health professional myself....
I can't even imagine. My personal experience as one is that I get all the hell from my clients....get all the hell from my peers.....and there is no support for me.
Thus.....perhaps this guy had heard and tried to help more than he could handle without anyone helping him.  | 
11-05-09, 07:00 PM
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Single, no children.....makes me suspect no support system. All stuff I look for as a psych.....
Seems like a call of desparation.
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