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11-06-09, 09:12 PM
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11-06-09, 09:54 PM
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11-07-09, 07:11 AM
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saw that a while ago, thats one wicked little fairmont. |
11-09-09, 03:31 PM
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11-09-09, 05:06 PM
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11-09-09, 07:20 PM
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Very interesting swap. Personally, I would have like to have seen a more stock fuel setup. All the effort put forth to make the install look factory and they go and setup that HUGE regulator on the firewall.
If I ever get around to doing my T-Top Terminator, you can bet that every square inch of it will look 100% factory. Like it was purchased from Ford that way.
Interesting about the control pack too....They need to make something like that specifically for the 4-valve cobra motor...that would make life easy for my dream swap. hehe. |
11-09-09, 07:32 PM
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That control pack is interesting. I kinda wish something like that existed for the 4V as well, but I'm sure 3V's will be plentiful soon at the boneyards. I'm sure they could make some good power too modded in a Fox. |
11-09-09, 07:48 PM
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Hey Jonathan, do you have any info you could share on that control pack? I'm curious if it would accept the same tunes the regular 3V OBD-II ECU would? If so, I'm sure it could be adapted to the 4V like Mike was saying. I'm looking at possibly doing a 4V swap on my 95, so this could be very interesting. |
11-09-09, 11:12 PM
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i know someone on a local forums who did a 4v swap in a 4 eye t-top |
11-10-09, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by StangGT1995  Hey Jonathan, do you have any info you could share on that control pack? I'm curious if it would accept the same tunes the regular 3V OBD-II ECU would? If so, I'm sure it could be adapted to the 4V like Mike was saying. I'm looking at possibly doing a 4V swap on my 95, so this could be very interesting. | I know that any SCT Custom Tuning Dealer can tune the FRPP control pack, & I'm sure Diablo can as well.
on the control pack fuel system, Quote:
Originally Posted by Prime Lord Very interesting swap. Personally, I would have like to have seen a more stock fuel setup. All the effort put forth to make the install look factory and they go and setup that HUGE regulator on the firewall.
If I ever get around to doing my T-Top Terminator, you can bet that every square inch of it will look 100% factory. Like it was purchased from Ford that way.
Interesting about the control pack too....They need to make something like that specifically for the 4-valve cobra motor...that would make life easy for my dream swap. hehe. | The FRPP control Pack is set up from FRPP to be used with a return style system & thats the reason for the regulator. It was the easiest, most cost effective way to plumb a return style fuel system. Does it look the best, well it depends what turns your crank, but it definately works! form<funtion 
I wish something like this control pack was around when I did the 4V swap in my 93, but such is life I guess.  |
11-10-09, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LRSjmac I know that any SCT Custom Tuning Dealer can tune the FRPP control pack, & I'm sure Diablo can as well.
on the control pack fuel system,
The FRPP control Pack is set up from FRPP to be used with a return style system & thats the reason for the regulator. It was the easiest, most cost effective way to plumb a return style fuel system. Does it look the best, well it depends what turns your crank, but it definately works! form<funtion
I wish something like this control pack was around when I did the 4V swap in my 93, but such is life I guess. | Great read!  That exhaust note is nice.
So if any SCT dealer can tune the control pack, a KB should be plug and play. Only changes should be fuel system upgrades, pulleys & accessories, and tune. |
11-10-09, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 67coupe Great read! That exhaust note is nice.
So if any SCT dealer can tune the control pack, a KB should be plug and play. Only changes should be fuel system upgrades, pulleys & accessories, and tune. | I don't see why it wouldn't be.......bolt on, tune, & go fast! |
11-10-09, 01:50 PM
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Couple more questions.
1) Compression ratio?
2) Did you have P/S on the Fairmont? How easy would it be to adapt the included pump to a fox rack?
3) What about adding A/C to the serp setup? Would an 05-09 bracket and compressor bolt up? |
11-10-09, 02:20 PM
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Compression is stock issue, somewhere around 9.5:1 I think.
He used manual steering, but I'm sume the provided pump could be made to work with your existing rack. Probably just have to fab a couple of hoses.
96-09 4.6 A/C compressor will bolt up to the block.
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11-10-09, 03:10 PM
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one of those motors with a blower in a coupe would be sweet |
11-10-09, 03:26 PM
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Is the car going to be at the track on the 14th? |
11-10-09, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kornnut Is the car going to be at the track on the 14th? | It is! |
11-10-09, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSjmac I know that any SCT Custom Tuning Dealer can tune the FRPP control pack, & I'm sure Diablo can as well.
on the control pack fuel system,
The FRPP control Pack is set up from FRPP to be used with a return style system & thats the reason for the regulator. It was the easiest, most cost effective way to plumb a return style fuel system. Does it look the best, well it depends what turns your crank, but it definately works! form<funtion
I wish something like this control pack was around when I did the 4V swap in my 93, but such is life I guess. | Do you have the SSP with the 99/01 4V in it?
If so then thanks again for all the help. I love LMR and go to your showroom any time I can. You sold me my hood and a couple grand in other stuff way back when you guys first got that 95R in the show room. |
11-10-09, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSjmac Compression is stock issue, somewhere around 9.5:1 I think.
He used manual steering, but I'm sume the provided pump could be made to work with your existing rack. Probably just have to fab a couple of hoses.
96-09 4.6 A/C compressor will bolt up to the block. | Awesome! Thanks for the info. |
11-10-09, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LaserSVT Do you have the SSP with the 99/01 4V in it?
If so then thanks again for all the help. I love LMR and go to your showroom any time I can. You sold me my hood and a couple grand in other stuff way back when you guys first got that 95R in the show room. | Yep, thats me.
We definately appreciate your business, stop by anytime! |
11-10-09, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSjmac Yep, thats me.
We definately appreciate your business, stop by anytime! | Man I love that car. Had to do a double take when you had the look-a-like Troopers sticker on the door. What did it say "Department of Restoration"? 
I send people to you guys all the time and bought all my Stang stuff through you and... Mike I think the other dudes name is. Has the 99 or 01 red Cobra.
I tried like crazy to get you guys to do a get together with a dyno day like Texas Mustangs did a couple years back. Had allot of Stangnet members ready to go but couldnt make it happen with LMR. 
Still wish you would. There are many guys from Dallas and Houston that would show up. Would be allot of 650-1000 rwhp Stangs there just to hang out since Ennis no longer does the FFW any more.  |
11-11-09, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LaserSVT Man I love that car. Had to do a double take when you had the look-a-like Troopers sticker on the door. What did it say "Department of Restoration"?
I send people to you guys all the time and bought all my Stang stuff through you and... Mike I think the other dudes name is. Has the 99 or 01 red Cobra.
I tried like crazy to get you guys to do a get together with a dyno day like Texas Mustangs did a couple years back. Had allot of Stangnet members ready to go but couldnt make it happen with LMR.
Still wish you would. There are many guys from Dallas and Houston that would show up. Would be allot of 650-1000 rwhp Stangs there just to hang out since Ennis no longer does the FFW any more. | We're doing exactly what you're asking for this weekend at Ennis! It's our 10th anniversary, so we rented the track & are having a car show, test-n-tune racing, a mobile chassis dyno, & a huge raffle with a 93 Cobra grand prize.
More info here: LRS 10th Anniversary
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