I hear a lot of people saying stay away from C&L MAS's, but I can't agree with that as I have had no complaints about mine.
I also can't elaborate on why people should not use C&L because the one's saying stay away are not saying why.
I used to be one of the most passionate peeps who would say
"C&L meters are a POS and don't waste your money on one" :Word:
The main phrase in that statement is ...
used to say 
Allow me to give a perspective as one who has been in the self tuning thing since
it was just getting started and nobody really knew much about doing it
My reason for wanting to give you the brief history lesson is ....
So you can see how many peeps came to feel that way in the past
and
So you can see how info in the past that was once true and valid
sometimes
Can no longer be all that accurate
or only ... partially true
Years ago ... many thought tuning was ...
twisting the dizzy and upping the fuel pressure
You can only do that for so long until you need a new meter to deal with the
additional fuel needs (bigger inj's) mods such as h/c/i and the like produce.
The whole deal of buying a meter that is calibrated for a certain size inj
which was invented by the aftermarket meter manufactures can have its
share of undesirable issues ... but back then ... not many were doing what
we call ... tuning ... which these days we know is a self tuning interface
or having a Pro burn a chip.
ProM and C&L were mostly the only game in town back then
and
It was no secret
Peeps just had better luck with the ProM meters :Word:
Now ... so much for making an aftermarket meter work without a tune
Lets bring in the newly formed self tuning community
and
Lets see how they found differences between the two meters
First of all ... a ProM meter would be delivered with a sheet showing the test
results of how the meter preformed
The C&L had no test results provided
and
If you called C&L ... you got a rude reply of ... "Why would you want that?"
This data was ... and still to this day ... is a good thing to have when you are
starting to dial in your maf transfer curve that is gonna be a custom kinda thing
for your particular combo if you are a self tuner type of guy.
Are you starting to see how ... the C&L meter was quickly loosing credibility
Back then ... The old ProM metal case 77mm meter was very accurate
and
You rarely saw peeps on the boards say anything bad about them
What you saw over and over was peeps saying ...
"I was having all kinds of issues with drivability"
"I moved from my C&L to a ProM and things now are great"
Its hard to recover from talk like that :Word:
Then again ... things started to slowly change for the better
After the word got around about that ...
C&L started to have a different attitude
They then started to make data available
well
Somewhat you might say
but
It was a start never the less
Then ... over time ...
As the self tuning community gained more and more knowledge ...
Pretty good curves for the C&L meters were hacked out
and
They were shared between the community members
So
C&L kinda got a ... default benefit ... from that kinda thing don't ya see
C&L made some changes several years ago with more models available
and
Slowly ... peeps on the boards started to give good reports
so
I suspect ... the quality was improved with the newer units
Now to the present ...
I gotta say some of the most knowledgeable self tuning peeps I know run C&L
meters and have good things to say about them.
So ... there you have it
Yes ... A C&L meter can be a pos
but
It doesn't necessarily have to be a pos
See how you gotta be careful about what info you take to heart
Any of that stuff allow you to see ... Why ... I once felt like I did
Grady
