Bought a New Challenger - Sorry Ford, Rant Included

[FastRedPonyCar]

But where does the profits go? It goes to Germany and Asia.

I tend to see it as $$ going into the pockets of the americans doing the work.

It's not as black and white of a comparison as it used to be. If the Hyaundai plant were closed down, several of my neighbors would be looking for work.

 

[Mustanglvr2006]

That is one beautiful car you have I'm a Mustang guy and all, but IMO that car looks AWESOME!!!

Best of luck!!

 

[Steedaq]

That is one beautiful car you have I'm a Mustang guy and all, but IMO that car looks AWESOME!!!

Best of luck!!

Thanks . It's still early (600 miles), but so I far I love it, and there aren't any regrets. Telling a few select family members about my purchase also went better than expected. Ride is very smooth, seats are great, and there's some sort of leather/vinyl material on most interior surfaces you're likely to contact - which is nice.

The 1-4 skip shift, which I hated, will be gone on Monday CAI and cat-back will be in shortly.

 

[Steedaq]

I glanced at a few of the posts on here..

Perhaps the underlying problem with your attempt to purchase a Mustang had to do with the dealerships and not FORD??

There is a dealership that is ten miles from my house.. I would NEVER buy a car from them. Complete shysters..irresponsible business practices... markups on all 'specialty' Mustangs (they let a few Shelby GTs bake in the sun for over a year because they kept the mark-ups).

With that said, I drive to Orange/Riverside/San Diego county dealerships to buy/look at cars... Furthermore, if I get a bad vibe from an a**hole salesman, I will find another..

Don't get me wrong... I like your car.. but I feel that the buyer has to take responsibility in getting the best deal.. it's all about how you negotiate. If you walked out on multiple occasions, and they still didn't accept your offer, or give you more for your trade, than yeah, there is a high enough demand for the new Mustangs that they don't need to sell them for bottom dollar.


I would totally drive the Challenger... And a Camaro... but I would still have some sort of hindsight that I could have had a Mustang..

Completely agree with what you said about my attempts having to do with dealerships rather than Ford. They were definitely dealership/salespeople issues and IMO had nothing to do with FMC. Sorry, didn't mean to indicate otherwise. Same with dealer markup on the GT500's - I always thought that Ford MSRP was fair.

 

[Gearbanger 101]

They can go with a Ford Super Duty (or a Ford Raptor). I would never shop for a F-150, but I need a real HD truck.

Cool...so as long as they're willing to spend $50-$60K on a Pick-up truck, they're all set. I somehow knew that jumping up to a Super-Duty, or a Raptor would be your response. Get real.

 

[RochesterGT]

Dealership by me is selling them at $300 UNDER invoice. They took my Z plan pin and found the GT I wanted a few hours away, had it transferred over. Ended up getting it for just under $28k. Just gotta find a good dealership.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

I tend to see it as $$ going into the pockets of the americans doing the work.

It's not as black and white of a comparison as it used to be. If the Hyaundai plant were closed down, several of my neighbors would be looking for work.

doesn't that just mean that ford money stays in america more because its an american company built by americans?

 

[kyle_99gt]

Then Toyota, Honda, BMW, and MB cars are American? They all make cars in America. VW is building a big plant in Chattanooga, TN. Will they now be American?

But where does the profits go? It goes to Germany and Asia.

The big Ceos in germany and asia might get the profits but it still gives jobs to 1000s of americans in a time where GM and Chrysler had to sack 1000s. They might not be american but they seem to be helping america more than some "american" companies lol.

 

[Gearbanger 101]

doesn't that just mean that ford money stays in america more because its an american company built by americans?

Yup.....100% American. Well....at least North American anyway, right?

Latin American Herald Tribune - Ford Opens Engine Plant in Mexico

 

[drewzx3]

Indeed. As nice a truck as the F150's are. The 315hp they put out is kinda bottom of the barrel in the full size truck market. Don't get me wrong...my F150 is no slouch, but at over 6,000lbs, 315hp/365tq isn't as impressive as you’d think. My buddies Hemi powered Ram runs circles around me through town and passing on the highway and both trucks are full size supercrew 4X4's.

With the 5.4L 3V being the only option in the F150 for at least the next couple of years, you feel every bet of the heft that these behemoths are carrying.

...that's why I'm saving up for a ROUSHCharger for mine.

Theres new engines in the 2011.

 

[RAYB]

enjoy the challenger, buying my first mustang 2011 gt prem convt, it has been ordered, going on over 3 months, wonder if the 2012 challenger will be offered in a convt.

 

[Gearbanger 101]

Theres new engines in the 2011.

No....as I stated above, the new engine is in the Superduty and the Raptor in 2011. They won't be seen in the F150 for a few years yet.

enjoy the challenger, buying my first mustang 2011 gt prem convt, it has been ordered, going on over 3 months, wonder if the 2012 challenger will be offered in a convt.

Ford had better hope not. That's the one other major advantage that Ford has over GM and Dodge right now. I think we'll all see sales drop off some when the other two release a convertible top option. I was speaking to one of the regional GM Fleet Sales managers last night as matter of fact and was told he's got a list of pre-order inquires for the new Camaro Convertible as long as his leg when they're finally released.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

No....as I stated above, the new engine is in the Superduty and the Raptor in 2011. They won't be seen in the F150 for a few years yet.


Ford had better hope not. That's the one other major advantage that Ford has over GM and Dodge right now. I think we'll all see sales drop off some when the other two release a convertible top option. I was speaking to one of the regional GM Fleet Sales managers last night as matter of fact and was told he's got a list of pre-order inquires for the new Camaro Convertible as long as his leg when they're finally released.

awesome, the camaro will finally officially clear the 2 ton mark and the challenger will hit the 4300's lol

 

[TruBlu03]

Well, getting back on the OP's topic, beautiful ride dude! I love me some Stangs, but I will be the first to admit that the Challengers are definitelty the best looking out of the big three. Now, get to modding that thing!

 

[Gearbanger 101]

awesome, the camaro will finally officially clear the 2 ton mark and the challenger will hit the 4300's lol

Yup....and the fat cat, nostalgic old guys with all of the money to spend will be scooping up these retro machines like candy, keeping this new resurgence of the muscle era alive and kicking, instead of bitching about their weight, or a misaligned trunk lid like the punk teenagers and early 20-somethings who can only read about them in magazines, or on car forums because they’re still scraping their pennies together trying to afford the last generations model....or the generations before that.

 

[Moke5.0]

Bought My 11'' 5.0 locally thru the net with Internet special pd $29369 sticker was $33799
very pleased ... 6sp and 3.73s cant ask for much more. They had 3 more on the lot they werent on the web though.

 

[ruffy]

Best of luck with your Challenger. I really thought hard about getting one myself.

 

[Ken04]

it's one car in your life, drive the Challenger, maybe you'll love it, maybe not. Darned good looking car I think. You can still be a Ford guy and have a Mopar. Funny, most Ford guys also like Mopars, but never, ever, ever are they also chevy guys, weird. I love the new Challenger, as long as you know what it is and accept it for the bigger, cushier car it is you'll not have any disappointments. Go forth into the muscle car world and enjoy !!

Yea, I think most of you are right regarding supply and demand of the 2011 stangs. The 5.0's are new, and I did notice they seem to be moving quickly. In a way, I can understand dealers not wanting to budge, as they figure there will be someone else that will come in and give them MSRP or close to it. It was just so frustrating going through the ordeal.

My Challenger was sitting since May 6th, which really surpised me as it's Tor-Red with the Classic package. Personally, I prefer the looks of the Challenger over the Stang and Camaro, but the 5.0 engine in the stang is flat-out awesome!

I've only had the Challenger for a day now, but I'll say this.. it's way different than any Mustang I've had. It does seems to drive smaller than it is, but still seems to get it's DNA from the 60's-70's muscle cars. So far, I'm really enjoying it, but would really like to get rid of the stupid 1-4 skip shift .