The LS engine is a generation newer than the old pushrod Ford. The Coyote is a generation newer than that.
Kurt
Kurt
Yess!!! Yess! Bottom line is this. Yes, there's variables but this is the idea.No, you would spend ALOT extra to keep it all ford. A Coyote is a 7000.00 dollar engine before you have to add the 1500.00 controller to make it work, and as new as it is, you can forget getting one out of the salvage yard.
The Ford racing block? What?... the Sportsman block alone costs as much as the
LS JY engine examples that are all over the internet making, and living at twice the "stock block split" maximum a little 302 has proven capable of.
Turning your nose up at the potential of a LS engine is tantamount to sticking your head in the sand.
Yes, it is common to see a Chevy guy stuff his engine in a fox body. It doesn't take a degree in race chassis dynamics to understand the reasons,... It just means that most of them know how to add,.... and subtract..
I'll still maintain that it could've been done using a stock long block, 4l60e trans and converter, ECU, exhaust manifolds, passenger car intake, and engine harness for around 2500.00.
You should visit the turbo forums to see what and how people are doings things. You'd be amazed.Assuming you can find the deal you describe (not around here unless you want 100k+ mile leftovers), you left out about $2500+ in additional parts and / or a few hundred hours of fabrication labor (purely related to the fact you've gone to Chevy -- not at all including the supporting mods required) which was my point (thing like mounts, k-member, radiator, brake booster for clearance, whatever you intend to do about power-steering / alternator / air conditioning / gauges). And now you've got a nice well-worn junkyard engine that may just as well send some bottom-end parts through the pan and a transmission of unknown longevity when you try to slap a turbo on it.
We can skew the math whichever direction we'd like based on however much we choose to leave out. In your example you're spending your $3k on NA power on the Ford and in the LS example you're bolting on mythical turbos. Have you ever tried locating an aftermarket turbo kit for an LS in a Fox? Do you have a guess as to how much that fabrication is gonna cost you? I'll give you the 650/650 but it's going to take you 200 hours of labor or about $5k to have someone put that together for you.
My math is 450hp / 590tq out of a stock 5.0 using an available aftermarket bolt-on turbo kit (<$2k with supporting mods like fueling left out as you did). Much above that and you're in Dart block territory so add another $2k for the SHP + more for all the internals / machining / etc. Now add your off-the-shelf turbo kit and find your 1000hp for a few thousand more.
So from my viewpoint if your hp goals are anything under block-splitting territory, stay with the stock block. Above that going with Dart is still going to make much more financial sense than the Chebby. In all cases Forced Induction is your most bang for your buck. When ALL things are considered.
You should visit the turbo forums to see what and how people are doings things. You'd be amazed.
great point thank you..................I don't care how much power they can handle, or how cheaply they can be built up....my cars will never house Chevy junk and will always bleed Ford blue. Some of you guys act as though a person should be ashamed for staying true to the breed? I'm proud to say I'm a brand loyalist.
I hear "I just swapped an LSX into my Fox body" and I thing....damn, another one bites the dust. Might has well have put euro tail light and a body kit on it. Because I'll never look at it the same way again.