Official Tremec 3650 Issues Thread

#661
20BlackGT02,
Sorry to hear that you have joined the ranks of the unsatisfied, "normal," tremec 3650 owners. Please continue to fight this with Ford and keep us updated. There is no reason why we need to skip 2nd gear or do anything special to a new car.
 

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#662
jrc_03_gt said:
I told you guys weeks ago what they are going to do to fix the problem. Here is a copy of my post from a couple of weeks ago.

I have these parts in my car now! Its better now. Shifts much better now. Still notchy though.
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Why is it still notchy??? :notnice:
 
#665
Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news but here goes.

My new tranny is still a little notchy even with 3.2L until it warms up. I don't think it's as bad as the orig factory 3650 with 3.8L, but still not the way it should be.

Very disgusted now with Ford. I think they should recall all 3650's and put something else in.
 
#667
3650 trans

Mustang225 said:
Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news but here goes.

My new tranny is still a little notchy even with 3.2L until it warms up. I don't think it's as bad as the orig factory 3650 with 3.8L, but still not the way it should be.

Very disgusted now with Ford. I think they should recall all 3650's and put something else in.
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sorry to hear about your problems. i just had my new mach 1 3650
rebuild with the 4 new upgraded parts in this thread.

all i can say is run dont walk to get this done. my 3650 is fantastic.
no grind/clash at all cold or hot.

find a dealer that can do trans rebuild in house. start a relationship
with the owner and service manager. do not take no for answer.
if you have to find another dealer do so.

are you sure they used the correct parts and did the job carefully?
notchy you can live with as long as the grind/clash is gone.
 
#668
Twisted said:
Mustang225,
Were you able to verify that they did actually put a new transmission in? They didn't just do a fluid change and spit polish your old one?
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My mechanic verified that a new tranny was installed as I have both serial numbers.
 
#669
hello, folks, i have the same 1- 2 shift problem . from what i am reading here is that ford will repair this problem in 03 mustangs (do i understand this right ) i see that the replacement parts have been installed in some cars did ford do this under warranty? i am going to my local dealer tommorow to check it outif anyone knows of anything please post. i will let evryone know what they say. one other thing does anyone know of a daeler on long island that has a good tranny guy to do the work i would like to bring my car to a dealer that can handle this. thanks chris
 
#670
I took my 2002 GT to the dealer yesterday and a mechanic rode with me in the passenger seat and he noticed the shifting problem right away. I left the car there overnight so that the transmission would be good and COLD when the transmission guy tested it out the next day. They gave me a vehicle to drive until they fix the problem. I called the service dept today to see what is going on and they said they had to adjust the clutch petal and that there was a service bulletin to do this for the people that are having this problem with the transmission. I asked if this actually did fix it and the guy I talked to said it did. I seriously doubt that this helps it at all since we all know that this is a problem with a synchronizer in the transmission. I am picking up the car tonight. Hopefully what they did does fix this, but if it don't it's going right back down there. If they have to put in a brand new 2005 transmission to fix it, then that's what they will eventually have to do. I won't quit until it's fixed to my satisfaction.
 
#672
brianmef said:
I took my 2002 GT to the dealer yesterday and a mechanic rode with me in the passenger seat and he noticed the shifting problem right away. I left the car there overnight so that the transmission would be good and COLD when the transmission guy tested it out the next day. They gave me a vehicle to drive until they fix the problem. I called the service dept today to see what is going on and they said they had to adjust the clutch petal and that there was a service bulletin to do this for the people that are having this problem with the transmission. I asked if this actually did fix it and the guy I talked to said it did. I seriously doubt that this helps it at all since we all know that this is a problem with a synchronizer in the transmission. I am picking up the car tonight. Hopefully what they did does fix this, but if it don't it's going right back down there. If they have to put in a brand new 2005 transmission to fix it, then that's what they will eventually have to do. I won't quit until it's fixed to my satisfaction.
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My local dealer did the same thing for me, and it was indeed about 15% better than before (the gear lash on the 1-2.) But it's far from gone, that's for certain!
 
#673
BMan5150 said:
My local dealer did the same thing for me, and it was indeed about 15% better than before (the gear lash on the 1-2.) But it's far from gone, that's for certain!
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Adjusting the clutch didn't fix it at all as far as the notchiness, but I do agree, there isn't any or very little hurky jerky shifting like there was sometimes when I wasn't being careful shifting. I went back and told them that the problem I was complaining about still existed, and the guy I talked to suggested talking to the manager Monday. I will.
 
#674
I went to the dealership today and talked to the service manager and it didn't do much good, just like all the other people here that have done that already. The guy that rode with me and noticed the notchy shifting was there along with a service rep and the service manager. The mechanic was trying to describe to the service manager how the car was shifting and he said something like "when you shift from 1st to 2nd, it pauses for a second and then goes right through" and he told me that "it's normal" bla bla bla. I told them no, it isn't normal and that it's MORE than just a pause and that I thought I was going to ruin something eventually because of this. It feels like gears banging against each other. No one said a word. I was checking out their expressions and it's like they were saying by the expressions "yeah your right, but we aren't going to admit anything". The service manager said that a "rep" (some guy higher up) was coming in tomorrow and they would go over this with him. They took my name and number and said they would call if they find out anything. I doubt they will call. I'm about ready to just give up here. I'm gaining nothing.

If any of you want to get rid of the jerky shifting, just ask your Ford dealer to adjust the clutch pedal per SSM 16067. This they will fix, since this is a fix Ford has authorized. I am very pleased with what they did to the clutch. It shifts a lot better minus the cold notchiness. If only we could get THAT fixed. :rolleyes:
 
#675
brianmef,
Hang in there, we all feel your pain. It is like a giant conspiracy that all of Ford Service is in on. I have duplicated the problem with a tech in the car, he goes "wow that's bad" then when it is time to do something about it they go "that's normal." This all goes back to the fact that Ford doesn't have a fix and the dealers know it. They don't want to waste their time for you to just come back with the same problem with a new transmission. The reason the dealers are playing dumb.."it's normal," is so no one can lemon law their cars.

Stated Corporate Fix Timing ~ 10weeks till the end of the 1st quarter
 
#676
Update to my previous post on them repairing my 3650. No luck yet, the vehicle sat overnight they admitted there was "feedback" present on the shifter but it disappeared when the vehicle was warm. I explained that the vehicle should not need a warm up period, and the fact that the owners manual does not call for a warm up peroid. So at the dealership level they were done with me. Somehow my complaint made its way up high to Ford. A Ford transmission engineer and tremec vendor are scheduling me to bring my vehicle to Dallas on a cold night for the vehcile to set and for them to do an intrusive inspection whatever that is. Hopefully this just isnt another waste of my time but at least they are looking further into it.
 
#678
This problem isn't a mystery where a special techs/tremec engineers need to test drive YOUR vehicle. It is a know flaw that they do not want to ($) or cannot fix (parts) at this point. It is obvious when guys get brand new transmissions and it still does it.
 
#679
Good point, thats what I thought as well. You would think that they have driven/seen other cars with this same problem. So tempting to swap the tranny or just sell it. I know when the warranty is up the tranny is gonna take a dump on me from all the grinding. Plus the thought of them having my car and prodding around doesnt make me feel good.
 
#680
jprez22 said:
A Ford transmission engineer and tremec vendor are scheduling me to bring my vehicle to Dallas on a cold night for the vehcile to set and for them to do an intrusive inspection whatever that is.
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Intrusive inspection eh? I bet they open up your transmission and check it out. Much the same as an intrusive rectal examination.. :rlaugh:

Riley
 
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