sub vocals...

96v6firstcar

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hey as you can see in my profile i have a 12'' kicker L7 and a kicker 600.1 KX amp.

a very loud setup indeed! anyways a problem that ive noticed is vocals are trying to come out through the sub. its not very loud but they are barley there. (you cant hear them when the volume is up...only when you listen for em).
right now i have the L7 in a ported 1.75 cubic foot box if that has anything to do with anything(had to take back seat apart to fit it in)

my amp settings are as follows
base boost aprox 15 (almost all the way up)
gain aprox 3/4 turned up
crosover aproz 100hz (goes up to 200...)
w/SUBSONIC filter on

my guess is that it has to do with the settings on the amp, because im positive its hooked up to the right outputs on my cd player (alpine cda-9813)

PLEASE give me tips on how to make this baby sound better!!!
(any sound tips are appreciated even if it dosnt deal with the question asked)
 
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It wouldn't hurt to check the outputs on the deck. I bought a new one and thought I hooked them up the way they were supposed to be, but I accidently hooked them up backwards and sound came through the subs, but it only took a whole 30 seconds to fix the problem though... I would start there and then try ryan's idea for sure..
 
thanks for the input, but what would u guys reccomend that i set my amp settings to as far as crossover and gain goes?... also how would the sub sound if i put pollyfill in the box? im not sure what that does to the sound of it yet so if you could let me in on it i would appreciate it
 
If it were me, I'd knock the xover down at least some...depending on what your other speakers are capable of, I'd probably go down to about 80 hz or something around there. I am of the opinion that subs should really only be playing actual "sub" bass. Mine are crossed over at around 55-60 right now. The higher you get with them, the more directional the bass becomes.

If you just want a loud system, though, I suppose it doesn't really matter where you set the xover, as long as it's not at 500hz or something like that.

What volume (on the deck) do you normally listen to your music at? Having the bass boost set so high with the gain up where you said it is seems a little off to me.

If you need help actually setting the gain, the general rule is to zero out all the settings on the deck (EQ, bass boost, etc..) and set the volume to about 75% of it's max. Then start turning the gain up on the amp until you hear some distortion in the speaker, and back it down just a bit till the distortion goes away. Then you just don't exceed that volume on the HU.

Polyfill is one of those things that everyone has their own opinion on. Basically, the idea is that if you stuff the box with poly, it will absorb some of the heat put off by the sub, and fool the sub into "thinking" that the box is bigger. Some people swear by it, some hate it, and some just don't care. If you want to try some to see if you like it, it's not gonna hurt the speaker. And it's not like polyfill is terribly expensive.
 
Try the x-over around 80hz with a sharp db / octave slope (if your amp has selectable slopes). check the Hz level that the bass boost works at. If it's adjustable, play your favorite song and tweek the knobs.
 
I'd also recommend lowering your crossover point. Joker's right about setting your gains, too. I also wouldn't put your bass boost that high. You're probably clipping the crap out of the signal. One question, did you get the dual 4 or dual 2 ohm version of the L7?