Definately keeping my 02, right now i don't think it's all that far from 300 HP anyway, and I can live with the little imperfections. Seen the 05 and am definately not impressed, if I want a 60's looking stang I'll get the real deal. The current model has this combination of a sexyness AND agressiveness, that for me, the 05 can't top. I didn't like the interior either, the seats do look like crap... the guages are nice though.
2005 looks nice,but,
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mattdee1
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SVTJayC said:
It just boggles my mind to hear any Mustang fan say this, but whatever, opinions vary.
It's funny you say this about the new seats when the current Stang quite possibly has the WORST seats of any vehicle on the market today.
Opinions on the new styling are one thing, but you're pi$$ing in the wind if you're going to try to make the case that the current interior is superior to the new one. Even if you're not crazy about the colors and seats, you can get used to that stuff. Just think about how nice it will be to finally have a Stang with an interior worthy to be sold in this century. No cheap, hard plastic that creeks and rattles.... no controls that look like they were stolen from a kit car... etc.
Man, just talking about it is making me impatient to get rid of this '03 for an '05.
Its clear that many people are simply baseing their opinion on the fact that the 05 has the word "new" associated with it.
Some of you do not form your own opinions based on your own tastes, rather, you follow the pack like sheep and like what everyone else likes.
Everyone has different tastes, some like the new, some like the old, and some like what everyone else likes.
Who are any of you to say that we cant have that opinion or that it is WRONG. Trying to argue that someones OPINION is wrong is kinda funny.
Also, it funny how most people saying how much better the 05 is inside and out have not even seen one in person. (thats really where im coming from)
Some of you do not form your own opinions based on your own tastes, rather, you follow the pack like sheep and like what everyone else likes.
Everyone has different tastes, some like the new, some like the old, and some like what everyone else likes.
Who are any of you to say that we cant have that opinion or that it is WRONG. Trying to argue that someones OPINION is wrong is kinda funny.
Also, it funny how most people saying how much better the 05 is inside and out have not even seen one in person. (thats really where im coming from)
Mach172
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Damn, all's they had at the New Mexico Auto Show was the red concept car, I was hoping to see the real thing! They did have the Ford GT though, and some really nice "other" cars!jaki30 said:
I don't own an mustang. I own a Contour SVT. So I am comparing the seats to the ones in that car. I am also simply wondering why, they would not put bolstered seats in a "performance car". Especially on the GT model. That, is truly mind boggling.
I said it looks worse in person, because all this time i keep hearing how the pics dont do it justice, and its BS. It looks just like the pics. The worse part comes into play, because in the pics it looks perfect, you dont see the little things, like the shoddy door handles, and cheepy plastic grille. It's not that i dont expect these things, it's just that combined with the hype, i expected a little more from a car that is made at the same plant as the mazda 6.
I said it looks worse in person, because all this time i keep hearing how the pics dont do it justice, and its BS. It looks just like the pics. The worse part comes into play, because in the pics it looks perfect, you dont see the little things, like the shoddy door handles, and cheepy plastic grille. It's not that i dont expect these things, it's just that combined with the hype, i expected a little more from a car that is made at the same plant as the mazda 6.
I am not going to buy the new 2005 Mustang. I already have 2 Mustangs (2001 Premium GT and a 2002 V6 Mustang) and I will be putting a lot of miles on them before I fork out $26,000 like an idiot to buy another one.
I like the new 2005 body style, but it is not as aggressive looking as my 2001 GT. The new 2005 body style lacks the fat side scoops and the fat hood scoop. There will be a big difference in how the new 2005 body style Mustang will look if Ford adds the side and hood scoops. It will look a whole lot better "WITH" the side and hood scoops on it. Right now, it looks like $hit without the scoops. Period. When Ford adds the side and hood scoops on the new body style Mustang, I may then decide to buy one. But until then, I am going to keep my 2001 GT and 2002 V6 Mustangs and drive them until they both die and/or rust out on me.
You see, I am also a cheap bastard Jew and I just don't want to spend money like some of the other $uckers in here who want to throw their hard earned money away on the new 2005 plain Jane looking body style Mustang without the mean looks of the side and hood scoops on it. I don't mean to offend anyone in here by saying this, but this is how I see things here with the new body style. It's nice looking, but not nice enough. The body style looks is okay, but it's just too "plain". It does not have the mean look to it like the 2001-2004 GT. The side and hood scoops will solve this problem. Add the side scoops and the hood scoop and you will have a mean mutha f u c ka Mustang.
I like the new 2005 body style, but it is not as aggressive looking as my 2001 GT. The new 2005 body style lacks the fat side scoops and the fat hood scoop. There will be a big difference in how the new 2005 body style Mustang will look if Ford adds the side and hood scoops. It will look a whole lot better "WITH" the side and hood scoops on it. Right now, it looks like $hit without the scoops. Period. When Ford adds the side and hood scoops on the new body style Mustang, I may then decide to buy one. But until then, I am going to keep my 2001 GT and 2002 V6 Mustangs and drive them until they both die and/or rust out on me.
You see, I am also a cheap bastard Jew and I just don't want to spend money like some of the other $uckers in here who want to throw their hard earned money away on the new 2005 plain Jane looking body style Mustang without the mean looks of the side and hood scoops on it. I don't mean to offend anyone in here by saying this, but this is how I see things here with the new body style. It's nice looking, but not nice enough. The body style looks is okay, but it's just too "plain". It does not have the mean look to it like the 2001-2004 GT. The side and hood scoops will solve this problem. Add the side scoops and the hood scoop and you will have a mean mutha f u c ka Mustang.
Hammer1999Gt
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I agree with you on the hood and side scoops. I know some people hate the fake scoops but I am rather fond of them. I still like the retro style I really wanted one when I first saw it but after seeing it in person in Detroit and Chicago I can live with out it for a few years until the hype and price come down. Now that I ahve my 99 GT vert I am getting attached to it the only way I would get rid of it in the next year or two would be to get a 03 or 04 Mach 1 
The '05 just doesn't look aggressive enough...
But I may part with my '03 Centennial GT for it. What I do like about the '05 is the longer wheelbase, the shorter front-end over hang, and tighter look of the wheels in the wheel wells.
I am not too fond of the retro interior photos I have seen but it is better than the current cheap plastic interior in my '03.
I just wish they would offer IRS in the GTs. I know a lot of guys like straight line acceleration, but I like curves.
But I may part with my '03 Centennial GT for it. What I do like about the '05 is the longer wheelbase, the shorter front-end over hang, and tighter look of the wheels in the wheel wells.
I am not too fond of the retro interior photos I have seen but it is better than the current cheap plastic interior in my '03.
I just wish they would offer IRS in the GTs. I know a lot of guys like straight line acceleration, but I like curves.
Does the car really look that cheap in person? i mean the photos make it look nice... and im just SO sick of the fox body style and love the change. The hood scoop and side scoops are no big deal. Im not to crazy about them being fake... personally i like the clean look for this body and yes my 2002 does look mean witht he side scoops and hood scoops.
MustangSteve007 said:
These guys are full of it. They are trying to make themselves feel better that they wont own the new car. I was no more then 2 feet away from it at the car show in Baltimore. The seats look at least 2 generations better then the current and the door handles have NOTHING bad to note at all. The car looks lower and meaner + more classy in person. People will tear this car down for the same reason they tear down other brands, to make them feel better about what they own. See the car for yourself, make your own judgement.
tommy0022 said:
I've seen on up close and so have dozens of others. The general consensus is that the 05 looks much better than the 99+ (which does look good). This includes people who aren't stangers saying that the new car is sharper than the old one.
We haven't had any performance tests but with more peak power and a broader torque curve, a stiffer chasis, better weight distribution, etc. etc. the new car will certainly outperform the old one. This is to be expected from a redesigned car.
Fit and finish on the interior look really good and small annoyances such as high clutch pedal effort and height have been addressed.
There is nothing wrong with liking your car because all that matter's is what you think. But cutting up a car that looks much better on paper and stylisticallly (which is objective I admit) which you haven't even seen is
mattdee1
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falchulk said:
This is exactly what I was going to say.
I think there is a lot of, for lack of a better word, resentment in the Mustang ranks among those who can't get, or don't want to get, the re-designed car. It bothers them that by fall there will be an all new Mustang on the streets that is going to be stealing most of the "ooohs" and "aaahs". They have to try to undermine all of the enthusiasm on this board in a futile attempt to change popular opinion. I say, give it up guys. By all means, if you don't like the new look, keep your current Stangs, and leave all the new GT's for the rest of us that can't wait to have one. But please, if you're going to try to knock down the new design and build up your own, at least try to do it in a credible way.
"The new Stang looks like crap because it doesn't have the tacky, fake, plastic scoops." Well gee -- the ricer in me says that you're right. But most of me is just plain laughing.
05 gt
Not to offend anyone, but I wont be trading in my cobra to purchase an 05.
But its great to see Ford making advancements in refinement to our favorite car.
I think the 05 gt has a cleaner look, theres no denying that. Its just that the
05 looks are a bit too conservative for my own taste. For me personally, I believe a performance car should be exciting to look at along with being fast.
The new style is refreshingly different to those who arent impressed by the current plaform, however.
Not to offend anyone, but I wont be trading in my cobra to purchase an 05.
But its great to see Ford making advancements in refinement to our favorite car.
I think the 05 gt has a cleaner look, theres no denying that. Its just that the
05 looks are a bit too conservative for my own taste. For me personally, I believe a performance car should be exciting to look at along with being fast.
The new style is refreshingly different to those who arent impressed by the current plaform, however.
Wylde
New Member
I love the new design and I am getting one and I don't care what people say or think because their oppinion means sqwat diddly to me.
i must say that for being the 2005 Ford Mustang forum everyone does a lot of hating on it claiming their current Stang is better...
Whatever, they're all nice cars.
Regarding the fake side and hood scoops:
Pointless unless functional.
Looks cool if it works and helps your power (like the original scoops did), but worthless if they do nothing for your car but add weight to it...
Whatever, they're all nice cars.
Regarding the fake side and hood scoops:
Pointless unless functional.
Looks cool if it works and helps your power (like the original scoops did), but worthless if they do nothing for your car but add weight to it...
Ron Jeremy said:
I, too, was very disappointed when the production 2005 was shown, and it lacked the hood and side scoops from the prototype.
I think Ford designers did a great job coming up with a really nice set of, very contemporary, scoops which really enhanced and complimented the "retro" styling, yet didn't look old fashion.
Just like the hood scoops shown on the prototype SN94 back in 1993 eventually shown up on the '96 Cobra, I am hopeful that these might. Possibly in the mid-cycle styling refreshing.
BTW, remember that the 1994 and 1995 Mustangs had functional side scoops. Ford changed them to non-functional in 1996, and I don't remember any massive number of Mustang buyers complaining. So, when it comes down to it, there really aren't whole lot of buyers who care one way or another.
I saw a laser red 2005 GT car in Oklahoma City in connection with the Great American Pony Drive/Mustangs In Motion folks who were passing through. Car looks nice but is a very "plain vanilla" to me. I do not like the "Shelby" quarter window glass as its glued on with no trim; liked the GT concept better because it didn't look so cheap. The interior is also quite plain looking. The combination of plain exterior and plain interior make the car nothing special to me. Rear seat reminded me of Jaguar, no leg room at all! Terrible rear seat, needs elimination. Yes, it looks like a Mustang and has some good engineering but I happen to like the 1999-2004 appearance better. I'll likely get used to it as time moves on. Perhaps special paint or pinstriping or ???
geegee said:
You are right, but the SN95 is that way too.
The "bean counters" at Ford cost reduce the Mustang to reach its entry level target of around $16K to $18K.
However, what is acceptable in that price range, isn't acceptable in the $30K range (let alone the rumor of a $50K special edition). At $30K, I would expect a lot of little creature comforts, and the 2004 doesn't have them nor does it appear that the 2005 will either.
