Granada soft break lines will not fit

[monk302]

I have put in the Granada calipers into my car and have found a problem with my brake hoses. When I make a sharp turn into a driveway or other near 90 degree turn my hoses inbetween the caliper and the hardlines pinch against the a piece of the lower control arm. Specifically the piece of the strut rod that attaches to the lower control arm. As a result, the brake hoses actually will leak when pinched inbetween the two pieces of metal and the pedal will go to the floor.

I need another alternative to using the Granada flexible brake lines. Is there another type of line I can use. Thanks everyone.

 

[streetgrande69]

sounds like you just need to route them different. got a current pic of the line routing?

 

[latamud]

When you added the granada swap did you add any extra hard line to the end of your existing ones? Or, did you strecth the old ones so it'd reach? Rerout the soft lines. Get some extensions for the hard lines to do so. check out mustangs plus, talk to Jim. They have a n 800 number.

 

[monk302]

I did not add any additional hardline, I put new hardline in just like it had been with the drum brakes. I will describe the setup as I do not have pictures right now and it will take me a few days to get them.

The hardline and flexline meet exactly where it had been with the drum brakes. There is a piece of metal that extends off the frame of the car that you insert the flexline in with a clip so it is secure. From there it goes down to the caliper and the the line makes a bend up to where it screws into the bottom of the caliper. In my opinion, the shift in direction to allow the flexline to go into the caliper is to severe and looks like it is pinched. When all matched together it is at this bend upwards that gets pinched between the lower control arm and caliper causing the leak.

I will try to get some pictures by Tuesday night. Could anyone post a picture of what it should look like? Thanks.

 

[66 BLAKE 96]

You need to install a few (3-6) inches of extra hard line between the new flex hose and the old hard line.

 

[71vert-pga]

Try this (part # 05126) from Mustangs Plus. It reroutes your mustang brake line ahead of the control arms to connect to the standard granada caliper. It's about the easiest 15 bucks I spent on mine.

 

[monk302]

Here is my only worry. You know where the flexline attaches to the chassis and is held in by a U shaped clip, Will I still be using this? It seems as this mounting point is necessary so that the flexline will not pull on and bend the hard line. Does anyone have a picture of the above part installed? It also looks like something that I could really go home and make out of some hardware from the local NAPA.

 

[Hack]

When I did my Granada conversion I put in new hard lines. I bought lines that were already flared from a car parts store. Then I bent them to fit. It really isn't that hard to do. It's a lot cheaper than buying from a Mustang vendor also.

When I got to the soft line, I noticed the same problem you're talking about. I ended up just routing the end of the hard line a little differently so that the soft line would reach it. On my '70, the hard line makes a "U" right at the end. I just left the end of the new hard brake line straight when I bent the new hard lines. That seemed to do the trick. It mounts in the same location, just has the opposite orientation from the original part.

I'm sorry if your car is different, just thought I'd post my solution.

 

[monk302]

Here is my only worry. You know where the flexline attaches to the chassis and is held in by a U shaped clip, Will I still be using this? It seems as this mounting point is necessary so that the flexline will not pull on and bend the hard line. Does anyone have a picture of the above part installed? It also looks like something that I could really go home and make out of some hardware from the local NAPA.

 

[TT670]

This is how I routed mine, it lets the rubber hose face fwd in its natural position

 

[monk302]

Thanks TT670. Is that the original bracket where the hard and soft lines meet? It looks as if it is extended off the frame a inch or two with that picture.

 

[monk302]

TT670, I just took a look at my current setup and then at yours. That bracket that holds the hardline and soft, that isn't stock is it? Comes our pretty far. My only comes out about an inch total. Additionally, my lines goes through the fender indentation to the rear of the coil spring. Could you take another picture of where it mounts into your caliper? Thanks.


I don't have my camera but I will try to get some pictures as soon as possible.

 

[coolblue65]

I highly recomend the part 71vert is talking about- its specifically designed for this problem and like he said its only $15. Here is a pic of them installed on my car-look past carefully its there.


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Try this (part # 05126) from Mustangs Plus. It reroutes your mustang brake line ahead of the control arms to connect to the standard granada caliper. It's about the easiest 15 bucks I spent on mine.

 

[71vert-pga]

You can't go wrong with this part. And the installation doesn't couldn't be any easier. No leaks. No fuss.

I've double flared and bent more steel lines than I ever want to see again and it's no fun (at least not for me). Maybe it just takes a talent that I don't have. And as I've stated here before "I'm a cheap bastard" and like to do everything myself. But one of the best things I've done here so far was to stick a crow bar in my wallet and pry out 15 bucks. You won't regret it.

P.S. I don't own any stock in M+.

 

[69stang351]

When I did my Granada conversion I put in new hard lines. I bought lines that were already flared from a car parts store. Then I bent them to fit. It really isn't that hard to do. It's a lot cheaper than buying from a Mustang vendor also.

When I got to the soft line, I noticed the same problem you're talking about. I ended up just routing the end of the hard line a little differently so that the soft line would reach it. On my '70, the hard line makes a "U" right at the end. I just left the end of the new hard brake line straight when I bent the new hard lines. That seemed to do the trick. It mounts in the same location, just has the opposite orientation from the original part.

I'm sorry if your car is different, just thought I'd post my solution.

I did something similar to what hack did, but my setup before i got new lines wasnt as bad as yours sounds, mine never really leaked like yours and didnt really pinch the lines but i re-did them anyway because i didnt want to worry about them breaking (and not me lol)

 

[monk302]

I'm soooo stooopid!!! I had the caliper on the wrong side of the car. I have taken them off, and put them on the correct side and now they are all good. Thanks guys.

 

[ericl]

I wanted to keep the same mounting point so I had a friend make me a set of SS lines that were a bit longer. It cost me <$125 fr the fronts and the line going from the frame to the rear end.

 

[TT670]

Yes that bracket is stock. I just moved it to the frame rail and attached my lines, it looks as if its away from the frame but its an illusion, the fuel lines hide the attachment.