5.0 Miata - WTF

gcomfx.com said:
:OT: but were those Blazers S-10 Blazers? Here's my other vehicle:

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Yeah acutally, come to think of it, it was an old GMC Jimmy 4X4. So I guess that would be what....S15 Jimmy? I dunno....it was one of the small ones anyway. It was a 350 drop in with a 700R4. Worked pretty good, but we had to lift it to get it to fit properly with the O/D trans. The 2WD's are much easier to do. The clown ended up blowing the engine and scrapping the truck about a year or so later. Just couldn't keep his foot out of the oilpan and the thing was a rust bucket to begin with. But it was a fun project none the less.
 

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I personally have exactly zero problem with a v8 of any kind in a little car. Miata, AC Cobra, Focus, Neon, Go-Kart (seen it)....the only thing someone mentioned was a V8 in an RX-7. Thats just a stupidass idea. The Rotary is one of the greatest mechanical designs ever and is in a car taylored around it. The uber light weight of the rotar and the light weight chass of the -7 make for a wicked combo. In drag racing you get massive HP (ive seen 1000+) with little weight, in drift racing you get a FR with a perfect width and length. RX-7s also make good GT-3 and GT-2 class cars (im not sure if they run any GT-1s, that seems a little -too- highend) without having to have the car built by a side company like Saleen or RUF (not knocking either just saying). A v8 in a -7 defeats the entire point since it adds soooooooo much weight to the front end of the car. I dont see it as a good thing to add that much weight for not a lot more power. Granted Rotars cost a lot (3-rotars are hard enough to come by. 4-rotars....yeah) and you can get more power for less money with a V8 but that comes from v8s having so many things you have to/can replace. The Wankle Rotary is one of the best engines ever, pulling it out of a RX-7 is just a stupid idea.


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95redSVT said:
I personally have exactly zero problem with a v8 of any kind in a little car. Miata, AC Cobra, Focus, Neon, Go-Kart (seen it)....the only thing someone mentioned was a V8 in an RX-7. Thats just a stupidass idea. The Rotary is one of the greatest mechanical designs ever and is in a car taylored around it. The uber light weight of the rotar and the light weight chass of the -7 make for a wicked combo. In drag racing you get massive HP (ive seen 1000+) with little weight, in drift racing you get a FR with a perfect width and length. RX-7s also make good GT-3 and GT-2 class cars (im not sure if they run any GT-1s, that seems a little -too- highend) without having to have the car built by a side company like Saleen or RUF (not knocking either just saying). A v8 in a -7 defeats the entire point since it adds soooooooo much weight to the front end of the car. I dont see it as a good thing to add that much weight for not a lot more power. Granted Rotars cost a lot (3-rotars are hard enough to come by. 4-rotars....yeah) and you can get more power for less money with a V8 but that comes from v8s having so many things you have to/can replace. The Wankle Rotary is one of the best engines ever, pulling it out of a RX-7 is just a stupid idea.


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The wankle is unrelailable and tq less it's a great idea but nothing that realy work why do you think no one else made them....ford a chevy both thought of it and tested it but then thourgh it.
 
I remember a while back (at least a year ago) I was talking to some guy in a Ford chatroom. He was working on a project of putting a 427 SOHC engine in a Ford Pinto!!! Pictures and everything. I about shat myself. That engine was nearly half the size of the whole car.
 
The Wankle is "unreliable" and a "bad engine" because back in the day when the -7s first came out they litterally could not break them. Mazda was making so little money in parts and repairs (a big part of dealer money) that they began to build them sub-standard to the original design so that people would have to bring them in to get fixed. This all got sorted out byt the time the last of the -7s came out but the damage was already done. A Le Mans 4-rotar was run for 24 hours one year, then torn apart and xrayed. The only piece they had to replace was a worn spring that had lost some of its springyness. The rotar went 15 more races without major overhaul. v8s cant do that.
 
95redSVT said:
A Le Mans 4-rotar was run for 24 hours one year, then torn apart and xrayed. The only piece they had to replace was a worn spring that had lost some of its springyness. The rotar went 15 more races without major overhaul. v8s cant do that.
Ummmm, sure they can. Just off the top of my head, several versions of both the Corvette, Mustang and most recently the new Ford GT have done it.....not to mention about half a dozen other ones that aren't coming to mind right now.

Actually....similar test were done on pre-production SHO when it first came out. Hard running for 24-hrs strait at super high RPM and ZERO damage!
 
I've actually seen Miata's with 302's quite a few times. First time was a good guys show about 8 years ago. But my fav Miata was one that had the turbo RX-7 motor in it. Tons of power and light too. That would be the one for me.

But I would like to see a tr-6 with a v8. My dad had one when I was a kid and that car was sooo much fun on a twisty road.
 
mystang94gt said:
But I would like to see a tr-6 with a v8. My dad had one when I was a kid and that car was sooo much fun on a twisty road.
Don't think it would be much of a corner carver after dropping a small iron block V8 into it. It'd be like swinging around a boat anchor after that. Not to mention it's short wheelbase would make it pretty squirrelly with that kind of torque on tap. But you're right.....it would be fun though. :D
 
I know I'm bringing this one back from the dead, but I went to a little car show in El Cajon, CA (suburb of San Diego) when I lived out there, and there was a late 80's Porche 911 with a 5.0HO sittin in the back. It was pretty sweet, and much cheaper than rebuilding the Porche motor I'm sure. Me and a buddy have been thinking of doing a 5.0 Miata after we get this turbo set-up installed on his Focus. It would definately be a lot of fun.
Brandon