MY 460 WAS STOLEN TODAY BY MY BEST FRIEND

[bln92cpe]

throw 800 in his face then get the motor back...if you dont get the motor back hurt him really bad..

 

[Michael Yount]

OK Gopher - I think I've got all the pieces put together on this thing.

Here's how to kill a whole covey of birds with one shot. BUY the wrecked ATV from him. Make the price such that he parts with the 460 like he should (use cops/lawyers/can of whup ass if you have to).

Then 1) drop the 460 in your fox, 2) drop the 302 out of your fox into the re-built ATV, 3) loan the high-powered atv back to him for a 'test drive'.

That approach ought to take care of all these issues.

 

[houstonstangguy]

there is alot of testosterone in here....lol

to all of you telling him to kick this guys ass, I ask only 2 questions.

1. How will that solve anything?

2. How in the hell do you even know this guy can kick that guys ass? That might just take stupidity to the next level. What's to stop someone coming back after taking an ass whipping, with a weapon?

Yeah that's really gonna get his motor back.

Trust me, I am all for a 1 on 1, but in this situation I can only see it getting worse instead of better by that option.

 

[Michael Yount]

Joe - you know I think you're right, however, I think gopher's still got the 'red mist' blocking his view....

 

[houstonstangguy]

I totally agree with you and I know how that goes too.

The post was more to those others rooting him on to go kick some ass. I can understand his frustration, but I am sure when he realizes that cooler heads prevail, and gets together with the other guys mom, things will work out.

I do like you idea though Michael. It is definitely something for him to think about, and would probably be cheaper than paying out the cash straight up.

 

[squeeeg]

I would say call him and try to talk to him. If he dosn't talk to you go to the cops. You will have your engine back in less then 6 hours and you might not even have to press charges after that.

As for going after him yourself, I think that is a bad idea. That leaves all legal ramifications out because he will just file assualt charges on you, so just don't do it.

PS that engine is prob. worth more then a grand which makes it grand theft, that is prison time.

 

[tmoss]

Was there no insurance coverage on th ATV if it was his Mom's????????

 

[IndyBlk5.0]

OK Gopher - I think I've got all the pieces put together on this thing.

Here's how to kill a whole covey of birds with one shot. BUY the wrecked ATV from him. Make the price such that he parts with the 460 like he should (use cops/lawyers/can of whup ass if you have to).

Then 1) drop the 460 in your fox, 2) drop the 302 out of your fox into the re-built ATV, 3) loan the high-powered atv back to him for a 'test drive'.

That approach ought to take care of all these issues.

AHAHA !! Outburst in college "quiet" computer lab #2 for today, thanks stangnet!!! LOL a 302 powered atv would sure to pancake is butt on a tree somewhere. If I was given a 302 powered ATV, someone would be scraping me off a tree with a shovel, thats for sure!!!

 

[Dan95-5.0]

Some people here don't know how to deal with there own problems. Jeez. "Sue Him, Call The Cops, Press Charges!" Grow Up people. Learn how to deal with it instead of whining to some judge or cop who have way better thing's to worry about then some kid's.QUOTE]

so are you saying let him keep the 460???? i dont think so.

why give him $800 when:

a) he said not to worry about it
b) its his moms and she said she doesnt care
c) they didnt even get an estimate yet

why would a shop let someone (thats not the owner!!!!) take someone elses motor. was there any work done to the motor? if so who paid for the bill to let them take the motor out of the shop?

its not like he told you as soon as it happened to pay for the damage. how long after the accident did he take your motor.

either way he had no right to take your motor and the shop to let it leave

 

[deftsound]

i dont care what you say thats messed up to steal your motor like that, id be furious, id probably want to kill that guy, but i do agree that you oughta pay for his 4 wheeler

 

[Legendary]

Call the freaking police (because you have witnesses) and put this crap in talk! Unless the stolen motor was running too rich I really don't care to read about it unless I click on that 'talk forum" button. Sorry but true.

 

[Daggar]

I would say call him and try to talk to him. If he dosn't talk to you go to the cops. You will have your engine back in less then 6 hours and you might not even have to press charges after that.

As for going after him yourself, I think that is a bad idea. That leaves all legal ramifications out because he will just file assualt charges on you, so just don't do it.

PS that engine is prob. worth more then a grand which makes it grand theft, that is prison time.

That's it right there. If infact he stole your engine then it's theft. Simple. Doesn't matter if it's big theft or little theft it's illegal. That said, law enforcement is not your job nor are you authorized to perform that function. File the police report and the stolen property will be returned to you. That's the job of law enforcement. If he took it from a shop that you took it to and they allowed that to happen then they also broke the law. Indicate that in your police report. If they were unaware of the theft then it's also criminal tresspass and retail theft and burglary that this person has commited. Again, not your job to attempt to enforce those laws by kicking his ass or any other means. It's your property. Make the report. When the cops go knocking on the door I'm betting he'll become very cooperative. They not interested in "he said she said". This ain't the Jerry Springer show.

 

[Sicarius428]

One thing to do is get his mom involved too. It technically is her quad and he probably lives under her roof along with the stolen 460. Work with her and not the friend in solving the monitary issue and if her word is god like most houses... you will get your motor back from her... not him. In doing so you will also get a fairer price and less of a chance that it will go into his pocket. You win.
Kevin

 

[SmockDoiley]

Well squeeg beat me too it. As for the rest of you, now I know which houses to rob. If your going to sit back and let people push you around and steal your stuff then let me know so I get some of it. Whatever the case is with the ATV, it will never all the theft of an engine. Like squeeeg said, call the cops and have them work it out. Most likely they will tell the kid the ATV is a civil matter, but taken the engine is a legal matter. He'll most likely give up the engine since he wont want to be arrested. Like Im really sure if someone came into one of your garages and took an engine, you'd just let them have it.
"Yeah, thats cool man, take it! I'll get that money to you right away. Sorry about all that. Hey, are we still on for Friday night?"
Calling the police department is the correct way to handle things yourself. There is no paperwork with him having that engine. What happens if he drops the engine or it gets stolen from him especially with no paperwork. Yeah, really smart, just let him have the engine and then have something happen to the engine. Gopher really gets screwed then. Use some common sense people.

 

[QDRHRSE]

Wow. What a mess. I've read the posts and most everybody has some valid points. I'm just wondering how old you are Gopher? Some of this is your fault indirectly, but you, and everyone else, is right that taking your motor was wrong- especially if he was your best friend.

I think you really didn't intend to pay anything back because your friend told you "no big deal". That's not right. You should have brought the quad back the same way you borrowed it. End of story. Who the "owner" is does not matter. You borrowed it- you should fix it- even if they tell you it's ok.

If the guy is really your best friend the $800 is not worth your friendship. In fact, if you guys are that tight you would have talked about this already. You need to re-evalute the relationship that you have with this guy. I know people who are not my friend that I would not do that to.

I could go on and on about this. Pay the guy and be done with him or work it out. Calling the cops in this instance is more trouble than its worth. Look at the whole thing objectively. Suing him would cost you a lot more than $800 bucks. This situation does not warrant getting physical. A developed ability to reason is one of the biggest differences between humans and other animals.

 

[Musclecarfan88]

I'm with rydeon/housstangguy/408 - settle down and take a breath. You've got some accountability in this mess too and the sooner you see it, the sooner things will start to straighten out. If I wrecked something of my "best friend's" I'd have my wallet out EVEN IF he told me not to worry about it. Solve it yourself - no need to get others involved, especially cops and lawyers. Read the reactions here - they're pretty mixed. I don't think you're gonna get a lot of sympathy from the cops; and if you think $800 or losing the motor is expensive, just wait til you hire a lawyer. Time to grow up - sit down and talk it through with him. Work it out.

just sounds like a bunch of bs highschool drama to me.

 

[deftsound]

id beat the livin **** outta that guy and take my motor back, i wouldnt even ask questions, id just go and get my motor, its your motor and you need to let that little ****er know your not gonna be bitched around like that

 

[Michael Yount]

If I remember the other posts related to the 460 correctly, establishing ownership may be a bit of a problem. I think Gopher's gonna say the guys at the school 'gave' it to him. And I think the guys at school are gonna say the original owner just left it there and didn't come back for it. I don't know how cut and dried it is who the actual 'owner' of the engine is.

 

[meze1111]

Its like an un written rule, if you drive someones car, bike, atv playstation w/e if you break it you pay for it. Other wise I wouldnt barrow something unless i knew the resposibility i had. I had a friend that wrecked a motorcycle i had did about 600$ worth of damage. So i know ur friends loss but I had 0 thoughts about steeling something from him as colateral. I think he handled this completely wrong and as did you. You two should have worked it out the day it happend. Moraly you are obligated to rectify this accident. Him being a friend should have understood your situation w/e that may be and let you pay for it best you could. Not just steal something behind your back thats wrong and makes matters way worse. I think your just speaking out of anger because of this being so recent. I think the rashional thing to do would be to confront him apoligizing for the ATV and telling him you understand ur responsible for the damage. If he is a "best friend" witch im leaning torwards no in the first place. You guys can clean this up and you can get your motor back. Maybe starting w/ an affordable deposit you can handle at the moment. If he reclines and is beligerant and doesnt liek that idea. The holes to deep now and the friendship is over IMO. I'd say best of luck to you and maybe you/him will learn from your mistakes. LIfes to short for things liek this to affect strong relationships.

 

[executioner]

you owe the man reasonable costs to fix his atv.if i were him i'd take you to smalls claims court.if i were you i'd press charges against him.he cant steal something because you owe him.but you still owe him.$800.00 is a cheap lesson,neither a lender or a borrower be.