04 SVT Cobra vs. 04 Sti

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#41
xdionx said:
To all who think that the Subaru STi is just a riced out car for punks that can't drive...you are wrong and are just being quite ignorant. I have driven both cars at the track and I know that an SVT will own a STi all day in a straight line. If you bought a mustang you are looking for the muscle car look, feel, power and maybe a few other reasons. Your car is made to go fast in a straight line...on the other hand the purpose of a WRX STi was never to just go continuously in a straight line. When a car is said to be rally bred it means that it works in that place in the world where its not sunny and dry all the time. Things like snow, dirt, mud and rain do not scare you because you know your AWD will pull you through along with your great handling. On the other hand if you are a mustang owner, winter is your car's favorite time of the year because it gets to sit in the garage and stay warm. As for handling...I would like to see a SVT try to even come close to out handling an STi any day. Basically you are trying to compare two cars that were designed for opposite reasons. As for the fact that STi owners are jerks...so are mustang owers as well. I always get mustang owners giving me the middle finger for no reason or trying to race me on a nice crowded highway where its nice and dangerous but I don't blame all mustang owners just the ones that are driving dangerously. I guess my point is that you are comparing two cars that were both designed for different reasons. Grow up and realize that both cars are nice cars and that to each his own
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Hey read the thread starters question!! He wants to compare them in the 1/4 mile at the track, not racing in the mud and snow and around corners man.
 

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#43
[/QUOTE]"If a Cobra is a tad quicker, it might as well win by a mile. Most who will own an Sti probably won't be able to drive it well. Instead of learning to drive quick and smooth, they'll be too busy farting around with wings, stickers, neon lights, and other crap." - Car Nut

You are a perfect example of the ignorance on this forum. An STi isn't some highschool punk's civic (Honda guys on here...please don't get me messed up...i've seen them fly too) so don't brush it to the side as a waste of your time b/c more than likely, I'd bet that half the members of this entire forum are a waste of an STi's time. Don't sell that car short, its a refined $30,000 sports car that has won numerous races all around the world without changing much from the factory platform (ever watch world rally cross?) much like the cobra.[/QUOTE]


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How in the hell did you read all of that into my post? High schoolers? Plenty of them around here with all kinds of cars: stangs, porsches, and many other beyond $30K. I don't think making a car ricey is limited by dollar value. I'm late in responding, but dude..........it's an opinion, not an invitation for a personal attack. WTF!!! Lighten up. No hate here, just a serious lack of interest. :shrug:
 
#47
hey i somewhat skipped over the pages, but i have friends with sti's/evo's/cobras, my friend with the sti ran a 13.4 with muffler (not cat back just muffler) bov (not really power mod) and intake, i've been with my friend in his evo rs (stripped down evo, same engine/drivetrain) vs's a my friend john in his cobra (catback/intake/nittos) and the cobra absolutely rapes the evo rs hands down, any angle any time, even with the evo doin some hard launches, the guy with the cobra claims he put down sti's in stock form, i'm not saying whos right or whos wrong, and i'm not here to magazine race, i've seen all of this stuff happen with my own eyes (and the sti owner does have time slips) , oh yeah i saw the bolt on cobra take a zo6 hah :banana: go cobra! kk back to the yankees/sox game, did you see a-rod? wtf was he doing, i hate the yankees
 
#48
Bla Bla 03 cobra this o3 cobra that...

I would take an STI over a cobra anyday of the week. The STI actually has some engineering and thought put into it. Yeah I own a cobra and have owned mustangs but WRX's are far better built cars and are more practical for people in the snowy states. Sure you can put exhaust on your 03 cobra and then spank that STI....Well guess what? You can put exhaust and a boost controller on the STI and then beat the cobra in the snow the dry the street and the track. Don't think that unlike many imports that it stops there. Put the up-pipes and down-pipes and the STI, get ported heads, FMIC, ported intakes..... Either car would be fun but it's obvious that the cobra is still stuck in 1979...
 
#50
Black Stampede said:
As far as I'm concerned they are very similar cars bought by people with different opinions on what they like. Nothing more, nothing less. Why argue?
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Good thinking you dumb ****, What the **** kind of **** is that. You crippled piece of ****. You ****ing suck on dirtbikes. Tell Ted him and Walter should go **** themselves. Why not Argue?
 
#52
ChromeYellow94 said:
Bla Bla 03 cobra this o3 cobra that...

I would take an STI over a cobra anyday of the week. The STI actually has some engineering and thought put into it. Yeah I own a cobra and have owned mustangs but WRX's are far better built cars and are more practical for people in the snowy states. Sure you can put exhaust on your 03 cobra and then spank that STI....Well guess what? You can put exhaust and a boost controller on the STI and then beat the cobra in the snow the dry the street and the track. Don't think that unlike many imports that it stops there. Put the up-pipes and down-pipes and the STI, get ported heads, FMIC, ported intakes..... Either car would be fun but it's obvious that the cobra is still stuck in 1979...
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thats honestly one of the dumbest things i have ever heard. I guess no one engineered the cobra, it just fell from a cloud. I dont know why so many people on here are acting up about STI's. Sure they are about as fast as a stock cobra...not quite, but almost....remember, in the 1/4 they are only a few tenths slower, but a good deal slower trap wise. They look like they came straight out of an anime commercial...see: hideous, they sound like a broken helicopter..see:horizontally opposed 4 cyl. and they just arent cool. Go fkn' jump on the 'imports are madd phat yo' bandwagon, but dont go polluting Stangnet with useless crap.



and to whoever said "sports cars" are 2 door but not always RWD...W T F are you talking about???

lets look at EVERY traditional sports car:

Vette: RWD
ANY Ferrari: RWD
NSX: RWD

theres tons more, but you get the point...sure there are some Porsches with AWD, but thats a new niche as of recently. Look at ANY classic or new European, American, Japanese sports car and tell me its not RWD.

An STI is an AWD, 4 door car.
 
#54
BigBlockBird said:
and to whoever said "sports cars" are 2 door but not always RWD...W T F are you talking about???

lets look at EVERY traditional sports car:

Vette: RWD
ANY Ferrari: RWD
NSX: RWD

theres tons more, but you get the point...sure there are some Porsches with AWD, but thats a new niche as of recently. Look at ANY classic or new European, American, Japanese sports car and tell me its not RWD.

An STI is an AWD, 4 door car.
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WTF am I talking about? It called progression my friend. "the new niche" as of recently...hmm...well are they sports cars? I'm not saying that a sports car can't be rearwheel drive by anymeans. I was responding to a previous post saying sports cars are not AWD. You're right that Porsche has made numerous awd drive cars. Ever here of a Lamborghini Gallardo? How about the Murcielago? Maybe even the Diablo VT? Last time I checked...the Diablo VT's last production year was 2001. So it isn't really all that "new" compared to the rate the rest of the automotive industry is moving.
 
#55
ChromeYellow94 said:
Sure you can put exhaust on your 03 cobra and then spank that STI....Well guess what? You can put exhaust and a boost controller on the STI and then beat the cobra in the snow the dry the street and the track. Don't think that unlike many imports that it stops there. Put the up-pipes and down-pipes and the STI, get ported heads, FMIC, ported intakes..... Either car would be fun but it's obvious that the cobra is still stuck in 1979...
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That's dumb....now you're comparing a modded STi against a stock Cobra. So I guess all the guys making 600+rwhp with the KB swaps don't count? I'd love to see one of those WRX's still remain streetable at that horsepower level.
BigBlockBird said:
and to whoever said "sports cars" are 2 door but not always RWD...W T F are you talking about???
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Not a traditional sports car by a lot of us American made RWD V-8 standards, but what about the Mitsu Eclips or Eagle Talons? They're both considered sports cars and can be had in both FWD ad AWD platforms. :shrug:
 
#56
WHOA! looks like we all got way off topic here. The original question was 04 SVT cobra vs. 04 Sti... I think from all this we've learned it's an unfair question. But first lets define 'sports car' since everyone seems so hung up on it. A sports car is ANY motor vehicle (defined as a car) that can be used to participate in a motor sport. It has nothing to do with designing. So in the loosest sense of the term your mom's minivan could be a sports car. Car companies dub certains cars 'sports cars' for a few reasons, the most obvious is for sales. Horsepower and handling come as reactions to market fluctuations. I will prove this. Some lotus's only make 190bhp but were designed as real corner carvers(designed for what you might ask? ah, for the people who will buy them, it is the 'want' that gives the wherewithall for good design). These cars fill a particular niche in the 'sports car' market. On the other end of the spectrum I'll mention the 04 cobra. 390bhp, but not the best handling in the world. Ford is working on that to open up their share of the market, but they're not quite in the same league yet. The lotus was designed to turn on a dime and the mustang was designed to out-accelerate all comers. Both are good at what they do, however, the design does not reflect the designation as much as it emulates the niche market opinion. (In other words corner carvers don't generally want raw unbridled horsepower and most drag racers don't give a hoot about turning). That said I hope you understand and appreciate the different factions of motor sports. You have drag racers, top speed runs, oval racing, rally etc... Each 'sports car' was designed according to the segment the manufacturer was trying to reach. So in theory Ford did not design the cobra to compete with the Sti, or vice versa. The question, theoretically is invalid. Competion is what we all live for though, it's the beating heart that drives anyones sports car, ney, their dreams. There will always be someone willing to race a cobra on the twisties and someone who is willing to take the sti to the 1320. In closing stock for stock a cobra will prolly take an sti in the 1320 given equal driving and the sti will prolly own the cobra on a mountain road or rally course with fair drivers. Modifications are a rediculous and mute point since the whole purpose of modifications is to change the geometry of the car and wholly removes the question from the context. There is your answer.

Now will a cobra beat an sti from stop light to stop light? Your guess is definately as good as anyone's here...
 
#57
ChromeYellow94 said:
Sure you can put exhaust on your 03 cobra and then spank that STI....Well guess what? You can put exhaust and a boost controller on the STI and then beat the cobra in the snow the dry the street and the track..
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why the hell are you talking about driving an 03/04 Cobra in the snow :shrug: I dont know of anyone in there right mind that buys a high HP RWD Cobra w/ the intention of driving it in the snow. That statement is just plain retarted.

and BTW....... when I read posts by RyClef331 Im not sure if I want to laugh of cry, or cry from laughing so hard :rlaugh: :rlaugh:
 
#59
I still can't figure out how an 04 Cobra vs. 04 Subaru topic ever got started in 94/95 :shrug:. If you want to troll for a fight, I would have thought going to the SVT forums would get a better response (but then again, it seems to have gotten quite a response in here...)

Dave
 
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