It appears as though it is going to come down to a battle of our will verse their greed, but I urge everyone to just hold out, after all they are loosing money by not selling them, they obviously would be making more money if they got them off the lot quicker so they can be allocated with more cars to sell. It's happening out here in So Cal, but if you hold out they'll drop the prices, most of the cars out here are just sitting on the lots and not selling because of how much they are asking, in fact I have had several dealerships calling me back about cars that they had orignally contacted me about when they got them in and they still have them and are slowly coming around to the negotiating table. They still aren't budging too much but I have had a couple drop down to $1000 over invoice, so hang in their fellow stangers, you will get your car and hopefully it wont cost as much as a low end BMW.