Old School vs. New School.......sick of the all the B.S
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ZenGirl35
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Borla catbacks
SVT: how do you like those Borla catbacks?? My 05 GT girlie will be here in June and I'm still debating the exhaust issue. I've heard all of the debates from Flowmaster to Bassani to JBA to MagnaFlow. To be honest - I'm not sure which to choose. I want an authentic old-school 'Stang sound. What are your thoughts?
SVT: how do you like those Borla catbacks?? My 05 GT girlie will be here in June and I'm still debating the exhaust issue. I've heard all of the debates from Flowmaster to Bassani to JBA to MagnaFlow. To be honest - I'm not sure which to choose. I want an authentic old-school 'Stang sound. What are your thoughts?
Jenns05Stang said:{I would be horrified to find out that you had chopped up a perfect restoration of a rare 1967 GT500 to throw an Eleanor body kit on it. Would I appreciate the craftsmanship ? - - - yes, time and effort ? - - - yes; but it would still bother me. .....}
Okay...go easy on me it is late and I have worked hard this weekend....
As for the original statement I have placed in brackets above... my very humble and respectful rebuttal is:
The Eleanor Mustang is more than a body kit. I am speaking of the GT350SR and GT500E specifically manufactured by Unique Performance. The vehicles are not a rare or pristine 1967 GT500. Yes I can agree with your horror of a complete rip apart and simple body kit modification to this vehicle. These types of pristine and rare Cobras/Super Snakes/King of the Road (KR) are to be preserved and sold at the likes of Barret-Jackson Auctions. They yield a high market value and I could not see someone who purchases one, just adding body modifications.
Back to the current build of the 350SR and 500E. The SR starts its life as a run of the mill 1965 or 1966 fastback, the upgrades and retrofits make it a much more capable performer than the original cars ever were.
I will now give a short dissertation on the 500E (excuse the lack of proper punctuation as it is late and I am tired). These particular Unique Performance (UP) vehicles are manufactured from 1967 and 1968 fastbacks. UP gets most of these vehicles as run down, 'left to die to the rust' cars. They sodium blast the body to bare metal. The stick the abused baby on a rotisserie and install all new floor pans and subframe connectors. They replace all suspension compenents to include coil-over shocks, power rack-and-pinion sterring, dual pistion calipers, slotted and drilled rotors, functional brake cooling ducts. The rear is upgraded with beefy leaf springs and shocks or an adjustable cantilever coilover kit and a traction Bar... 3.89 gears with a posi differential and a 31-spline axle in the base 500E... The Super Snake uses 3.25 gears. They add a Fuel-Safe cell providing about 16 or 22 gallons. A secondary battery is dedicated to this and is installed in the trunk. This bad boy fires up with the assistance of a MSD ignition; has JBA headers, Spin Tech mufflers and an aluminium Griffin cross-flow radiator. The TremecT56 6 speed is controlled by a beautiful JMC hydraulic clutch. All pumping along an aluminum driveshaft with safety loop (Don't want to drop that driveshaft and turn into a rocket...LOL)...
And...let's not forget that you get either a 325hp 302ci with Holley 600 cfm carb or fuel injection; or a 408 stoker engine. And lastly, my favorite, the 427 screaming out 525 HP with the Tremec TKO 5 speed to help you through the gears. You can add a nice little Vortech supercharger and a Mighty Deamon carb for a total of 725 Horsepower.
This, with all due respect, is not just a body kit. It is a beautifully engineered, redesigned and resurrected '67 or '68 fastback. I would probably give half of my ample breast size just to drive one of these production GT500E's.
I can agree with your over all statement that to tear up a completely beautiful GT500 to just put on a Body Kit is wrong. People spend hundreds of thousands of dollars at auctions to preserve the heritage of the original Shelby's. I can't thank those folks enough, for one day, I will take my son to Scottsdale, AZ to a Barret-Jackson auction just to be able to see this part of automobile history.
However, the Eleanor, even the new one's produced by the folks at Unique are not just adding a body kit, they are reviving an American Dream.
Thanks for listening to my humble rebuttal...
Jennifer
Unfortunatly, alot of this info is not true. They are not graciously rescuing rusty hulks of classic mustangs. They are buying the decently priced "project" cars that the average Joe could afford. This has also increased classic mustang pricing across the board further limiting the "hobby". The biggest problem classics guys like myself have with these cars is that $$$$$helby has called these cars actua Shelbys and added them to the registry. All these cars are just mustangs with simple bolt ons anyone could buy from the aftermarket. They (UP, Sanderson?, Shelby) are not doing ANYTHING special to these cars except jack the price
SVTdriver
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ZenGirl35 said:
I like it a lot. It doesn't get as loud as some of the others. The problem with the modular motors is. You will never get the same old-school sound. The motors are just too smooth. They don't get the loping sound like my 66. That being said. I like it. Though at the prices Borla wants for most stuff. I'm not sure it's worth it. Unless you REALLY like the sound. But the same can be said for Bassani usually.
graphicguy
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sawman70 said:
It means I use what I came stardard with to good effect. No MODS are needed for my equipment to function well.
I'm trying hard not to make another duner penis joke here....but it's getting harder and harder.
It was just my rebuttal to a statement. I am not asserting it on anyone. I simply stated that I personally disagreed with Red's statement about the "Body Kit".... It is my understanding production figures on these vehicles are limited I am sure sons and DAUGTERS and theur father can still locate a 66-68 fast back at a decent price. Broad based generalizations are scarey things. Heed caution when using them. The vehicles are not collectors vehicles. The ones I have seen in their shop layouts are usually rust buckets and already missing engine and tranny. I do not know their exact purchase protocol for the fastback... I retract my statement if it is incorrect.... I would not agree that a lot of the information I presented was incorrect. The information is as tactual as you can get since i pulled it directly from UPs catalogue. LOL..... My opinions may be flawed, that I will agree with. 
I apologize if I offended anyone with my rebuttal to a specific pointed phrase from Red, it was not my intent to offend anyone. However, when comparing the contextual aspects of the original comment to the end result we are off topic. My point was, in fact, it was not a body kit only. And in re-reading my closing sentence I should have stated more clearly... "They are not just adding a body kit, they are reviving MY American Dream".
Jennifer
I apologize if I offended anyone with my rebuttal to a specific pointed phrase from Red, it was not my intent to offend anyone. However, when comparing the contextual aspects of the original comment to the end result we are off topic. My point was, in fact, it was not a body kit only. And in re-reading my closing sentence I should have stated more clearly... "They are not just adding a body kit, they are reviving MY American Dream".
Jennifer
ZenGirl35
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SVTdriver
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ZenGirl35 said:
That would bw my suggestion. I can't say I have done enough research to know. To know which one would be the best for an 05. At least not yet.
sawman70
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graphicguy
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SVTdriver
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graphicguy said:Looks like the original poster high tailed it out of here after we called BS on him........
Typical Troll behavior.
sawman70
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Jeffspeed24 said:
i like the Saleen look. It is not rice, unless it is on a V6....
nothin worse than walking up to a great looking modded Mustang, checking under the hood and seeing a 6 pack.
sawman70
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i guess it is our opinion , that "hooking up" (i don't know, are you towing it somewhere??) a V6 is a huge WAISTE OF MONEY. Drive it, wash it and keep it clean, save your waisted money and plop it down on a V8 which is really what you wanted in the first place and are now compensating for lack of engine with an abundance of plastic. Now if your "dream car" is a plastic'd out V6 Mustang, God bless, but somehow I don't think it is.
Just my honest opinion
Please understand, I find nothing wrong with owning a V6 Mustang.
Just my honest opinion
Please understand, I find nothing wrong with owning a V6 Mustang.
You mean, WAS FASTER! Now consider the loss caused by the drag of that silly looking(my opinion), probably unpainted, body kit and you just found yourself getting handily outrun by any other stock V6 Mustang made today, and you've put yourself right back in with the Civic crowd. Nothin' wrong with that if you like it back there.bleeblee said:
Adding things that SLOW a car and hinder it's performance simply don't get it for me. Of course, I have some understanding of aerodynamics as well as the need to keep parts cool, too. When I was 16-25 none of that had sunken into my head yet. Thankfully, these hideous looking body kits weren't made yet. Then again, the Saleen kit was available before I was 25... Hated that gawdy tail!
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