68rustang
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I applaud Ron for signing on here and responding to the critics. However you guys need to shop around M+ is just about the most expensive supply house out there.
PS - it's wAnt not wOnt.
PS - it's wAnt not wOnt.
Jester67 said:Quality comes from within. If you wont to know how your phone service people are behaving on the phone they sell call-monitoring systems all day long. Small price to pay to make sure your phone people are on the straight and narrow. I know this because I have setup technical support call systems before. That way you will not have to take someone else word for it you can hear it for your self. Proactive is better than reactive any day. Remember it takes every call to keep a customer but only one to lose them forever.
6Stang7 said:i dont get your point?
RonB said:Hi, guys. Ron Bramlett here from Mustangs Plus. This thread was sent to me by one of our customers that thought I would like to respond to the negativity that's being directed towards my company. He is right. I do. The truth is, I actually started Mustangs Plus back in 1981 because I was dissatisfied with the way I was treated by a well known Mustang parts retailer. So, reading this thread has a special meaning to me. I told myself then that we would never treat our customers like that and over the years I've tried to build a business that doesn't treat people the way some of you have indicated that you've been treated. But every business has to have company policies that their employees can follow. And I agree, some of these policies are usually not what you, the customer, want to hear. That's why I've always made myself accessable to our customers so that anyone who is dissatisfied in any way can talk to me personally.
Hello Ron;
Thanks for responding in person! I would have to say that this forum could be another good tool to gage your employee's customer satisfaction rating. It sounds like it is not very good. I have seen the same thing over and over again in this forum and in our own business where the manager/owner has no clue to what is going on with all his customers. Of couse I always thought that maybe you should actually know the product you sell. I think the fustration comes in on both the "order entry" side and the "after sell" side where some of your employees are not trained as well on dealing with the customer issues or questions. Maybe you should tell them to always put themselves in the place of the customer and to treat them like they would want to be treated. If they don't know the answer than say so and tell the customer that you will find out and call them back. Yes, I realize TMI only makes upholstery but if ACC had TMI's quality standards maybe they would fit better. I also realize you are not the manufacturer of your products, but you approve of their quality standards by selling them. I get the feeling that some of the negative responses coming from this thread are your employees tying to protect your company which proves my point about customer relations. I would like to know if you buy your parts on price or quality?
Tim
thehueypilot said:Hello Ron;
Thanks for responding in person! I would have to say that this forum could be another good tool to gage your employee's customer satisfaction rating. It sounds like it is not very good. I have seen the same thing over and over again in this forum and in our own business where the manager/owner has no clue to what is going on with all his customers. Of couse I always thought that maybe you should actually know the product you sell. I think the fustration comes in on both the "order entry" side and the "after sell" side where some of your employees are not trained as well on dealing with the customer issues or questions. Maybe you should tell them to always put themselves in the place of the customer and to treat them like they would want to be treated. If they don't know the answer than say so and tell the customer that you will find out and call them back. Yes, I realize TMI only makes upholstery but if ACC had TMI's quality standards maybe they would fit better. I also realize you are not the manufacturer of your products, but you approve of their quality standards by selling them. I get the feeling that some of the negative responses coming from this thread are your employees tying to protect your company which proves my point about customer relations. I would like to know if you buy your parts on price or quality?
Tim
GT2K said:I knew that when I posted it, you've already made that clear
seriously. i'm utterly lost. just a bad joke maybe?66moneypit said:I am not sure what was funny about this....please share the joke...
The wording on post you are talking about definitely isn't clear, seems a little convoluted to me.
very well put Edbert.Edbert said:I have ordered from M+ before, only had one problem one time. When i called about returning the wrong product I did not get the result I wanted so I asked for the manager (I don't think it was Ron but am not sure...it was over 6 years ago), he and I worked out an agreement and I am satisfied.
M+ is not the cheapest that is true, but they have been around this hobby for a long time, and the do a lot of thier own R&D as someone else mentioned. Back in the early 80s it was them and Maier who did much of the pioneering. Ron and his son's contribute to the community via their racing team and their show attendance. They post 2-page color spreads (expensive) that illustrate and inform more than they sell. They publish a periodical newsletter too. I'm not saying they are the greates thing ever or that we all need to shop their exclusively but the bashing they've received her is out of line.
For the future...
If you ever have trouble with a product from any company or its representative try to escalate your issue to their manager, or the manager's manager if you must. At some point in that chain you will reach someone who cares and will make it right. Try to not post things in a relatively anonymous forum that can damage the livelyhood of folks who were not given the chance to make things right.
Conversely, if you speak to the owner or head manager of "Shop-ABC" and he says to f-off, then come in here and flame away
1320stang said:I agree Edbert, with the internet now, people start bashing before they try all avenues to resolve the problem. I'm not saying that's what went on here, but I've seen too many examples of it. Sometimes they get stuff resolved and never go back and change their posts either. You really have to research both the company and the people posting the bad stuff anymore. Some people are naturally hot headed anyway.
As far as my local Mustang shop, Mustang Parts of Oklahoma, when they were previously owned by someone else, and in a different location, I went in to buy some 3 speed shifter bushings for my '65 coupe. I had only had the car for about a year, poor college student, and the car was painted a metallic Persimmon color, sorta like the rust colored new Chevy Avalanche trucks. It had been wrecked in the front, only got into the exterior sheet metal, and I had bought a front clip off a red fastback and hadn't gotten a paint job yet. After I bought the parts, the smartass helping me followed me outside and preceeded to tell me what a piece of s*** car I had. He had a '71-'73 Mustang coupe with a warmed over Cleveland, Mach I wing on the back, and the hole in the hood with the fake butterfly injector housing. He asked me if I wanted to race and got into his car and started it up and immediately started wrapping the motor up to 5-6k.
I didn't say squat, I just got into my car and drove off, and never bought anything there again. I could have gotten the kit for about 3/4 the price with shipping had I bought it from Dallas Mustang Parts, but I'd have had to wait about a week.
Edbert said:...the bashing they've received her is out of line.
For the future...
If you ever have trouble with a product from any company or its representative try to escalate your issue to their manager, or the manager's manager if you must. At some point in that chain you will reach someone who cares and will make it right. Try to not post things in a relatively anonymous forum that can damage the livelyhood of folks who were not given the chance to make things right.
Conversely, if you speak to the owner or head manager of "Shop-ABC" and he says to f-off, then come in here and flame away
68rustang said:I don't think any of this has been out of line. Nothing inflamatory has been said that I have seen. No name calling or childish behavior. Why is it the consumers responsibility to go the distance when the vendor is the one charging $. I think every employee is a reflection of the company they work for.
will not return due to the length of time i had it...and if they did i would have to pay shipping there and back again for the new product
markstang1969 said:Only thing I see as out of line is post #1, where he ASSUMES he cannot send it back and doesn't even give M+ a CHANCE to fix the problem.
It doesn't say he called or tried, just that he waited and decided not to try...
66moneypit said:This whole thread just goes to show how important customer service is. No matter where you stack up on the isssues.... I certainly don't think anyone's comments where out of line. Nobody called the owner names or each other. They just expressed their displeasure with their experiences.... which I think is a strength of this forum as long as it's fairly done.