Pinto and Mustang II

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#22
Pinto's Rule! :D I owned a 1978 Mercury Bobcat and it was a great car. I bought it for $50.00.It actually passed the safety check. I proceded to drive it for a year with no problems. After putting a new 351M into my 1976 Cougar XR7 the Bobcat got parked. Rebel (sometimes posts here) ended up pulling it all apart to fix his wounded 1982ish Mercury Capri. Anywho a pre 74 Pinto/Bobcat has very little if nothing interchangeable with a II. 1974-1981 Pinto's had nearly identical front suspensions. The Pinto never had the rubber bushed "toilet seat" that mounts the strut rods and trans cross member. It sounds minimal, but a Pinto/Bobcat will rip your hands off going down a bumpy road! The steering rack manual/power is the same. The brake system is all the same. The seats are differnt but will bolt in. None of the body panels are interchangeable. None of the glass is interchangeable.The rear leafs are shorter in a Pinto. If the Pinto/Bobcat has an 8" it will be the same. The 2.8l and 2.3l engine and trans combos are all the same as a II. The front bumper will fit. So will the rear if you trim it. (It looks stupid because the pinto bumper has a space to bolt a plate to, so you end up with two plate mounts).
Some photo's from my scrap book.

photo's from Sport Compact Car/Canadian tire news letter/Car Craft

Hey Wart Fairmonts can be kool see :shrug:
 
#24
CobraIILover said:
Most cars are usually based off others. This is true for Mustangs of all years.

First Gens were built on the Falcon platform
MIIs were on the Pinto platform
Foxes were built off the Fairmont platform
SN95 was a modifed Fox so it also reverts back to Fairmont platform
The 05 Mustang is built on the Linclon LS/T-bird/S-type platform

The kicker with the II, is that most people have it backwards. It was a Pinto based design, but the chassis and suspension was totally redesigned in 74 for the Mustang II. The Pinto then shared that new setup. The previous year Pintos are not similar to the MII.

I really think that the Pinto referance came from the base model, steel wheel, no spoilers fastback II. This version of the II just looks WAY too much like a Pinto.
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Yep, and you can tell them that until you are blue in the face and they always come back with "accept your car sucks" kind of reply. :rolleyes:
 
#28
My first engine swap was in a Bobcat. I took out a tired 2.3 (warped head) and shoved in a 302. "Shoved in" being the operative phrase. It was pretty much a hack job, but what do you expect from a 14 year old!!! That thing would bolt like you wouldn't believe, and the best part was that unless you popped the hood, or looked underneath, you wouldn't have a clue a V8 was lurking under there. Aaaahh those were the days! :nice:
 
#29
chromehorse11 said:
My first engine swap was in a Bobcat. I took out a tired 2.3 (warped head) and shoved in a 302. "Shoved in" being the operative phrase. It was pretty much a hack job, but what do you expect from a 14 year old!!! That thing would bolt like you wouldn't believe, and the best part was that unless you popped the hood, or looked underneath, you wouldn't have a clue a V8 was lurking under there. Aaaahh those were the days! :nice:
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The bobcat actually had a V8 option, too. I saw one prowling around town here a few years ago.

Edit: I'm only fairly certain it had a V8 option.
 
#33
78pinto said:
Wow........that hurts..... :(
78pinto,
Your pinto kicks so much ass that there is no need to say anything :nice:

You have a rocking car that will blow away 99.9% of the cars on the road and be proud of it! Just FYI, the first car I even rebuilt was a 68 Dodge Dart that was Pea Green :) Let me tell you, all my friends laughed at me when I was building it but they had no problem riding in it when we were doing 110 down the highway :)

So, some say run away from a pinto, but I say run away from conformity! :nice:
Chad
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#37
Blue Thunder said:
The bobcat actually had a V8 option, too. I saw one prowling around town here a few years ago.

Edit: I'm only fairly certain it had a V8 option.
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I don't think that a V8 was optional for the Pinto/Bobcat. I think the biggest engine available from the factory was the 2.8l. And i think that was even pretty rare. (possibly reserved for the wagons, cruiser wagons)
 
#39
chromehorse11 said:
I don't think that a V8 was optional for the Pinto/Bobcat. I think the biggest engine available from the factory was the 2.8l. And i think that was even pretty rare. (possibly reserved for the wagons, cruiser wagons)
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I could've sworn I read somewhere about a 302 option, but there's a lot of clutter in my old skull, so maybe not. The one that used to be in town looked all stock, but sounded nice. If the guy did the V8 install himself, it was a factory-looking professional swap.
 
#40
78Pinto your car is way kool in my book. When people say my II is a glorified Pinto, I always say "and that is a bad thing?". Mustang time line:
1rst Glorified falcon
2nd fat and bloated Glorified falcon
3rd Glorified Pinto
4rth Glorified Fairmont
5th well...... a lincoln is a pretty la ta da platform!
P.S I like every Mustang they all have there faults. The onlty fault the new one seems to have is no Mach 1 option and I can't afford one!?
Most quick cars that are/were inexpensive are based on cars with humble roots. Mustang Defined: A econobox that will perform like an expensive euopean sports car for "would you like fries with that" kinda money :D
 
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