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ForceFed70

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I just finished wiring the garage for 230V. Mostly so I can run a welder... and maybe a nice big compressor someday.

But a guy I was talking to told me that welders use a 50 amp plug like used for ovens and not the 30amp plug used for dryers and such. If it was just the plug it would be easy to fix, but I'd also have to buy a new breaker and run heavier guage wire. So pretty much re-do the whole job...

So what plug do most 230V welders use?
 
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6Stang7 said:
read the welder, it should say the amp req'd.


Don't have a welder yet.

Well, I hope I can find one that uses the 30amp plug.
I plan on getting a mig some day, and just figured that since you can buy some that run off 115V- 15A, that the 230V 30A plug would be more than enough.
 
70_Nitrous_Eater said:
I just finished wiring the garage for 230V. Mostly so I can run a welder... and maybe a nice big compressor someday.

But a guy I was talking to told me that welders use a 50 amp plug like used for ovens and not the 30amp plug used for dryers and such. If it was just the plug it would be easy to fix, but I'd also have to buy a new breaker and run heavier guage wire. So pretty much re-do the whole job...

So what plug do most 230V welders use?

If youu don't have the welder yet don't worry about it, you may end up with a low amp mig and you wouldn't have to change it.
 
I think it may also depend on duration of the welding your doing.

I lived in a rent house that had the washer and dryer across from each other as you passed from the kitchen into the single car garage. The dryer had a 30 amp circuit and the breaker box was halfway across the house (only about 1100sf house) in a bedroom closet. I surface mounted a dryer outlet up on the wall on a 1x4 I attached to the wall and used a dryer plug to wire to the back of the outlet and plugged it into the normal dryer outlet. I plugged the dryer into this outlet. On the opposite side of the wall, I put another 30 amp outlet on a 1x4 and ran some heavy 4 insulated wire 'romex' thru the wall to the other outlet and hard wired it to the inside outlet, so this plug was hot if the inside plug was plugged into the normal house outlet. I hard wired my 6hp direct drive 60 gallon Sears upright compressor to the outside outlet and plugged in a Lincoln AC cracker box (100amp?)stick welder. When I wasn't in the garage, the compressor switch was turned off and the ball valve to the distribution system (1/2" pvc pipe on one wall with and outlet at the front of the garage and one at the rear with a drip leg, and combo dryer/regulator connected tot he compressor with a 3' long flex hose). If I went into the garage and was working, I'd unplug the dryer to let the wife know I was using my equipment outside. I never ran the compressor at the same time as the welder and I doubt I ever made a pass longer than about 8" with a 6013 1/8" rod. I think I only tripped the breaker once when I forgot to shut the ball valve and didn't turn the compressor off. The wife was running the dryer and the compressor fell below the what the PSI switch was set to and the compressor kicked on and flipped the breaker.