Another Gt Goes Down - Defective Heads!!!

[Longhorn94]

My 05 Black GT is having the same problems that happened to TicketMeRedGT. His thread can be found at

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=526716

I bought my GT new at COVERT FORD in Austin, Texas back in February and it has approximately 12,000 miles on it now. The car was at idle, it surged and died. An engine light came on and it started to idle rough. I took it in and they said it was the coil and spark plug in one cylinder. They replaced the coil and plug without success. Next, they thought it was a valve sticking so they replaced the valves and the valve springs. That didnt work. Next, they got on the "FORD HOTLINE" and tried several things without luck. And now Ford is overnighting a new head. They have had the car for 7 days now.

My service guy told me that they still dont know what the problem is. That they havent seen this on the 05 GTs before. And that Ford wasnt sure what the problem was either.

I had not seen Ticket's thread so I took them at their word. Now after doing some research on defective cylinder heads I found the article on blueovalnews.com about the stop ship order regarding 05 3V 4.6l engines and the fact that at least one other car has been replaced for the exact same defect. AND THEY ACTED LIKE THEY DIDNT KNOW??? The fact that they feigned ignorance really pisses me off!

I am not happy with them just replacing the head. I will not accept that. I will not accept a new engine either. The car's value will be irreparably damaged and diminished.

I am a trial lawyer and will not hesitate to file a lawsuit against Ford if they fail to take care of this situation. I want the car bought back or a replacement car. This was a known defect before the cars were shipped and its obvious that their inspections were not thorough enough. I am not willing to accept the loss of value to my car due to their mistake.

Let me be real clear. I do not want to file suit against Ford. I want to work this out with Ford and Covert Ford and have them either buy back the car or replace it with a new one. I would much rather get this done with respect and courtesy than forcing them through a lawsuit. But I will not accept anything less than a buyback or replacement. This was a manufacturing defect. One that they knew about and failed to catch.

Hopefully they will do the right thing and replace the car.

IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM? Maybe a class action might wake them up! I hope not but it looks like they had to file one over problems with some truck heads.

I spoke to the Covert Ford Dealer's Customer Relations Manager and he is helping me and has been wonderful. They put me in a Ford 500 to drive while this issue is resolved. I will say it again. I want to work this out amicably. I love my car and want to keep it forever. But i will not accept anything less than a replacement car or a buy back.

With this being a known problem before any cars were shipped, I cant imagine Ford not stepping up and doing the right thing.

I will keep you guys updated on this thread. If you have any suggestions or ideas about who to contact and how to go about getting a buy back or replacement vehicle let me know. Im always open to new ideas.

If the guys at Ford read this, they have my contact info at Covert Ford in Austin. IF you dont contact me, dont worry about it. I will be in contact with you soon.



Thanks in advance,

Jason

 

[Longhorn94]

Anyone know anything more about the stop ship order re the defective heads?

 

[gp001]

My 05 Black GT is having the same problems that happened to TicketMeRedGT. His thread can be found at

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=526716

I bought my GT new at COVERT FORD in Austin, Texas back in February and it has approximately 12,000 miles on it now. The car was at idle, it surged and died. An engine light came on and it started to idle rough. I took it in and they said it was the coil and spark plug in one cylinder. They replaced the coil and plug without success. Next, they thought it was a valve sticking so they replaced the valves and the valve springs. That didnt work. Next, they got on the "FORD HOTLINE" and tried several things without luck. And now Ford is overnighting a new head. They have had the car for 7 days now.

My service guy told me that they still dont know what the problem is. That they havent seen this on the 05 GTs before. And that Ford wasnt sure what the problem was either.

I had not seen Ticket's thread so I took them at their word. Now after doing some research on defective cylinder heads I found the article on blueovalnews.com about the stop ship order regarding 05 3V 4.6l engines and the fact that at least one other car has been replaced for the exact same defect. AND THEY ACTED LIKE THEY DIDNT KNOW??? The fact that they feigned ignorance really pisses me off!

I am not happy with them just replacing the head. I will not accept that. I will not accept a new engine either. The car's value will be irreparably damaged and diminished.

I am a trial lawyer and will not hesitate to file a lawsuit against Ford if they fail to take care of this situation. I want the car bought back or a replacement car. This was a known defect before the cars were shipped and its obvious that their inspections were not thorough enough. I am not willing to accept the loss of value to my car due to their mistake.

Let me be real clear. I do not want to file suit against Ford. I want to work this out with Ford and Covert Ford and have them either buy back the car or replace it with a new one. I would much rather get this done with respect and courtesy than forcing them through a lawsuit. But I will not accept anything less than a buyback or replacement. This was a manufacturing defect. One that they knew about and failed to catch.

Hopefully they will do the right thing and replace the car.

IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM? Maybe a class action might wake them up! I hope not but it looks like they had to file one over problems with some truck heads.

I spoke to the Covert Ford Dealer's Customer Relations Manager and he is helping me and has been wonderful. They put me in a Ford 500 to drive while this issue is resolved. I will say it again. I want to work this out amicably. I love my car and want to keep it forever. But i will not accept anything less than a replacement car or a buy back.

With this being a known problem before any cars were shipped, I cant imagine Ford not stepping up and doing the right thing.

I will keep you guys updated on this thread. If you have any suggestions or ideas about who to contact and how to go about getting a buy back or replacement vehicle let me know. Im always open to new ideas.

If the guys at Ford read this, they have my contact info at Covert Ford in Austin. IF you dont contact me, dont worry about it. I will be in contact with you soon.



Thanks in advance,

Jason

Dick the Butcher: "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."

 

[Longhorn94]

 

[gp001]

i wrote the post above for a reason.... think about it.


yeah since im a lawyer i guess i deserved to get a defective car. its all my fault... right?

No, but you don't deserve a NEW car or buyback as you are demanding. If you're not bright enough to realize the first year of a new platform may have problems then maybe you should not have purchased an 05. There are processes in place to take care of your situation.

 

[gp001]

One more thing. I love how "working it out" = them meeting your demands

 

[OBleedingMe]

Dick the Butcher: "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."

That's a real moronic thing to say. The man got a car with defective heads. He may have to sue, and if he wins, it could set a precedent for everyone else who has a problem with the GT's heads, INCLUDING YOU. Who would YOU call if Ford refused to cover your defective heads and replace your motor or replace your car under warranty? Your mother? Would you lie down like a dog and take it? No, you'd call a lawyer. Hyporcite.

At least this guy's doing something about the defective heads and standing up for himself and everyone else. From the look of your post/attitude, he's a doer, you're a hyopcrite.

 

[Jenns01TA]

i wrote the post above for a reason.... think about it.

yeah since im a lawyer i guess i deserved to get a defective car. its all my fault... right?

I would deduce from your dissertation that you are seeking to obtain additional individuals who MAY be exhibiting mechanical issues similar to yours in the hopes of showing a preponderance of evidence that a "significant" demographic of 3-V V-8 owners have been injured and deserve a settlement from Ford.

Yeah and since you are a lawyer, I will respectfully ask that you do not try to incite the members and through remiss tactics use Stangnet as a recruiting forum for your class action lawsuit.

Thank you and good luck with your vehicle issue.


Jennifer

 

[tomustang]

If you're not bright enough to realize the first year of a new platform may have problems then maybe you should not have purchased an 05.

Have you heard of any F-150 3V engines doing this?

 

[Jenns01TA]

That's a real moronic thing to say. The man got a car with defective heads. He may have to sue, and if he wins, it could set a precedent for everyone else who has a problem with the GT's heads, INCLUDING YOU. Who would YOU call if Ford refused to cover your defective heads and replace your motor or replace your car under warranty? Your mother? Would you lie down like a dog and take it? No, you'd call a lawyer. Hyporcite.

At least this guy's doing something about the defective heads and standing up for himself and everyone else. From the look of your post/attitude, he's a doer, you're a hyopcrite.

OooooooooBleedinggggMeeeeee...........

No, the initial approach of handling it with the dealer is the first step. Number 2 is Ford Corporate, 3rd is mediation through lemon-law. Threats of this nature have caused trial lawyers to rule with an iron fist. Citizens are now taught to sue for every little thing that doesn't sit right with their preconceived notion of instantaneous gratification and perfectionism.

I will let GP address your comments toward him directly. However, I do not feel that this site is designed to recruit would-be class action complaintants and I would hope that Messrs. Raburn would agree.

Jenn

 

[gp001]

That's a real moronic thing to say. The man got a car with defective heads. He may have to sue, and if he wins, it could set a precedent for everyone else who has a problem with the GT's heads, INCLUDING YOU. Who would YOU call if Ford refused to cover your defective heads and replace your motor or replace your car under warranty? Your mother? Would you lie down like a dog and take it? No, you'd call a lawyer. Hyporcite.

At least this guy's doing something about the defective heads and standing up for himself and everyone else. From the look of your post/attitude, he's a doer, you're a hyopcrite.

Keep in mind that if you had called anyone else a hypocrite I would be asking you to retract it and edit your post. Since I have thicker skin and I am the mod I'll let it fly against me.

Hypocrite?

hypocrite

n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold

I guess someone with your comprehension level could make that assumption. Ford IS trying to make it right. There is nothing in ANY of the warranty documents that entitle ANY of us to a NEW CAR or BUY BACK. Ford is following the processes in place to rectify these situations. HE (Mr. Lawyer guy) even says:

I spoke to the Covert Ford Dealer's Customer Relations Manager and he is helping me and has been wonderful. They put me in a Ford 500 to drive while this issue is resolved. I will say it again. I want to work this out amicably. I love my car and want to keep it forever. But i will not accept anything less than a replacement car or a buy back.

So Ford is resolving the issue, but he is demanding special treatment.

Maybe he didn't read what he signed? Maybe you are easily impressed with this type of chest thumping jack assery, but I see it for what it is. The oly thing he is a "doer" of is trying to use this forum to garner favor in his attempt to strong arm Ford for something he is not due.

You've been here a whie, how many of these have you heard about? 1? 2? I bet if you check the standard probability of failures for a manufactured part this falls well within limits. Hell, even NASA has calculated critical failure rates and they are considered the top in design, engineering, materials, and implementation.

 

[tomustang]

I don't see why someone would file a lawsuit with Ford over this. If it's going to be regular occurance then ford will do testing and decide on a recall, no different that any other company will do. Since there's not hundreds of this instance happening I would blame it on a few rush productions other than faulty products.

 

[OBleedingMe]

Keep in mind that if you had called anyone else a hypocrite I would be asking you to retract it and edit your post. Since I have thicker skin and I am the mod I'll let it fly against me.

Hypocrite?



I guess someone with your comprehension level could make that assumption. Ford IS trying to make it right. There is nothing in ANY of the warranty documents that entitle ANY of us to a NEW CAR or BUY BACK. Ford is following the processes in place to rectify these situations. HE (Mr. Lawyer guy) even says:



So Ford is resolving the issue, but he is demanding special treatment.

Maybe he didn't read what he signed? Maybe you are easily impressed with this type of chest thumping jack assery, but I see it for what it is. The oly thing he is a "doer" of is trying to use this forum to garner favor in his attempt to strong arm Ford for something he is not due.

You've been here a whie, how many of these have you heard about? 1? 2? I bet if you check the standard probability of failures for a manufactured part this falls well within limits. Hell, even NASA has calculated critical failure rates and they are considered the top in design, engineering, materials, and implementation.

I may not agreee with an entire buyback, and I too think that may be asking for a little too much, but I think he deserves a new motor. Just replacing the heads is a joke. God knows what other damage has been done.

My comprehension level is perfectly fine. You denounce lawyers, yet when you need one, you call them. Sort of like cops - some people hate them... that is, until they need one. That, sir, is the height of hypocrisy - to berate a profession one so desperately needs. If they are not willing to replace his motor, I think anyone in his position (including you) would call their lawyer and seek legal counsel.

Jumped the gun on the defective heads - yes I have. I will admit that part of the post had me a little steaming. But I will not retract my statement, despite the fact you are a moderator and have decided that you didn't like my opinion of your attitude. That is my opinion of you in this particulair post and I'm sticking by it. It wouldn't matter if this was you or another person on the forum, so please, don't accord me any special treatment to put yourself on a high pedestal.

 

[Longhorn94]

 

[Longhorn94]

 

[Longhorn94]

Have you heard of any F-150 3V engines doing this?

YEP!!!

 

[Longhorn94]

One more thing. I love how "working it out" = them meeting your demands

no "working it out" means doing right by me.

 

[Longhorn94]

That's a real moronic thing to say. The man got a car with defective heads. He may have to sue, and if he wins, it could set a precedent for everyone else who has a problem with the GT's heads, INCLUDING YOU. Who would YOU call if Ford refused to cover your defective heads and replace your motor or replace your car under warranty? Your mother? Would you lie down like a dog and take it? No, you'd call a lawyer. Hyporcite.

At least this guy's doing something about the defective heads and standing up for himself and everyone else. From the look of your post/attitude, he's a doer, you're a hyopcrite.

Thanks for your post. I will keep you updated.

 

[Longhorn94]

 

[Longhorn94]